• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I’ve managed people in India before - not to save money but to handle overnight tickets - and to me they work too hard.

    On of my reports was affected by some pretty significant flooding and asked if maybe they could have a day off.

    I told them to not worry about work until their house was no longer filled with mud and water.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      18 days ago

      Your adequacy is stand-out in our time. Keep that wonderful prioritization and don’t let the machine change you.

    • jaschen@lemm.ee
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      18 days ago

      Nice job dude. How did your wife take it after they fired you for being human?

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          Middle management killed my soul. I refused to extract every last drop of productivity from my reports. I did everything I could possibly do for them, but I couldn’t make things right for them. (I advocated for raises, promotions, increased staffing, and more frequent breaks.)

          Under my management, my team was more productive than they were with other leadership. (Both the numbers and the customers agreed.) My managers said it was great, but then would complain when they saw them not working 100% of the time. (This was “wasteful.”)

          The other middle managers were willing to do what I wouldn’t. Upper management would pass me over for promotions, for the middle managers that were willing to be lackeys that would grind up our staff for the good of profit. My mistake was that I wanted to provide great service and treat my staff like the competent professionals they were. The real vision was to provide the bare minimum, find creative ways to fleece the customers, and do it all by whatever means necessary.

          I’ve been there. I am much happier not in management. I hope you’re doing well.

        • jaschen@lemm.ee
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          18 days ago

          Yup, my VP laid my coworker off after she announced she was pregnant.

          A week later I announced my wife was pregnant and they laid me off.

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          17 days ago

          I would also do this to my wife if she stood up for humanity. I might even marry her again.

    • Aux@feddit.uk
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      18 days ago

      That time was super short, happened only in a few selected countries and is an anomaly blip in the history of the world. And even if you think that your life is noticeably worse today, you’re still far far better off than the majority of the population today and throughout history.

      As for why this time has ended: humans have a need to live in a need. Otherwise they become bored and destroy everything they have. Again, that state of life is not normal, humans cannot live like that, we’re not adapted to such conditions.

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    18 days ago

    i would not be able to work in an environment where any colleagues fellate the exploitative bullshit corpo “leadership” with such fervor

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      18 days ago

      Silly domestic remote employees want a livable wage and are less tolerant to being paid less because they don’t live in an overpriced area.

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      17 days ago

      That’s weird. It’s almost like they don’t actually care about “incentive structure”, “attracting top talent”, “work/life balance”, “team cohesion”, etc. But they wouldn’t prioritize exploiting workers by seeing who they can control the most for the least amount of pay, would they??

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        18 days ago

        He’s a Dartmouth alum, too. I can tell you as a New Hampshire native that we’d be in a better place if that fascist finishing school for nepo baby cunts was wiped from the planet.

        • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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          Harvard can fuck right off too denying degrees on behalf of the zionists, MIT wasn’t much better threatening to suspend anyone pro Palestine. Brown at least negotiated with protestors, that’s something I suppose.

          For all the talk of the ‘liberal elite’ in the Ivy League there are a LOT of old money nepo racists and institutions built around them.

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        18 days ago

        Oh shit. Do I owe him residuals for inventing getting drunk with your partner after dark?!

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    i thought he was going to say something like “I got this message, look how horrifying our foreign policy is and how it affects random innocent people” but he just instead decided to go “hey wanna exploit some labor overseas for cheap? consider hiring someone currently getting carpet bombed; it’s so lucrative!” fucking psycho

    • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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      18 days ago

      Just set him on fire here, no need to launch a rocket with all the pollution that will create.

      End result is extra crispy lunatic either way.

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    18 days ago

    The disconnect from reality here is just mind blowing. Dude needs to go overseas and witness how utterly terrifying a threat on your life you have no control over actually is. Sidenote: punchable face.

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      18 days ago

      He’s been brainwashed to exalt capitalist culture, probably by his parents and their social circle.

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      18 days ago

      Yeah actually mental.

      What he calls ‘dedication’ is actually fear at having to hold your job down during the middle of a fucking WAR because if you disappoint your corporate overlords you will be both getting missiles rained on you AND unable to support your family.

      It’s desperation, and desperation which is very intentionally baked into the system so dickhead ‘leaders’ like these can get the slaves they are looking for and label that slavery as a ‘positive work ethic’

      So out of touch with real people.

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        18 days ago

        What are “people?”

        You mean the objects that exist to further my ambitions, and accumulation of wealth?

        Not my problem.

        /s

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    18 days ago

    Hahahaha, yeah, hiring overseas is a great way to skimp on payroll. In my experience, it’s also a great way to skimp on quality, effectiveness, and sanity. We just got rid of one guy who, immediately after hiring, asked for an RTO exemption for a newborn child; fine, it was granted. When that expired, still refused. Was counseled on it and their low quality of work. Then tried having someone else attend their meetings, was called on it, and resigned. Pretty sure they were trying to subcontract their job to work multiple full-time jobs.

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      18 days ago

      Seeing more and more of that domestically.

      People are recognizing that their relationship with their employer is exploitative and are trying to return that energy.

      I’ve worked with a few people recently that clearly were holding multiple jobs or were much more focussed on their side hustle.

      Symptom of a bigger issue in my opinion.

      Could it have been Jesus that said “Those who live by the free market shall die by the free market?”

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        Yeah, I hate the exploitative nature of overseas hiring, just colonialism with a fresh coat of paint. I also dislike their in-person requirement of two days per week. As has been noted elsewhere in this thread, there is a good, non-exploitative use case in providing overnight coverage for US-based orgs so that no one has to work night shifts. I’ve done both, and it’s hard to get and keep good people on a night shift, regardless of where they live.

        I’m all for doing the minimum to stay employed, but in this case I was told the employee didn’t, so not only were they not meeting even a low bar, but they were exploiting someone else in turn to do it.

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          18 days ago

          it’s hard to get and keep good people on a night shift

          like everything else, it’s really not

          you just have to actually pay for it

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            Having started on the night shift in the position I was hiring for, I felt it was good. Emphasis on the “keeping people” part of it. Hardly anyone (except this one guy) wants to stay on the night shift forever, and eventually no amount of shift differential will make up for it. Personally, I would much rather hire people from around the world since the work could be done remotely, so that no one has to work in the middle of the night.

            Pretty easy to be flippant with “just pay more” without considering the realities of people’s preferences, how much I was able to offer before I was told no more, the quality of the people applying, the skills required, etc.

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      18 days ago

      Luigi is a ‘big hammer’ solution and

      • it didn’t make a real difference
      • getting to where ‘small hammers’ will fix the issue seems so far off

      We have so far to go, and farther by the day.

    • Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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      18 days ago

      My employer has stooped so low as to call it “return to work”. Like, what the fuck have I been doing the past 5 years!?

      I’m currently in the final round of interviews for a new employer. I don’t expect that they will be nearly different, but at least they will pay more.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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        In my salary calculations, office days will attract an added cost and is part of the negotiation. MDA , with its multiple sites and janky schedule, for instance, was a 100k job with 300k of attracted bullshit.

        We didn’t come to an agreement.

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          18 days ago

          This.

          “According to my analysis, a “Work From Home” strategy would eliminate the burden of office rent, utilities, inspections, and other arbitrary expenses.”

          “None of that affects my compensation package. Requiring employees being here would increase productivity, and profit.”

          “Actually, the data has shown that productivity and work flow has incre…”

          “Fuck that, I know they’re jerking off, eating Cheetos, and playing video games on my clock. Bring them back, now.”

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        18 days ago

        They hate the idea of not being able to control others as much as possible.

        Even as they email directives in their pajamas, while skinnin’ it on Pornhub at the same time.

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      18 days ago

      It feels like a phrase from a cult trying to convince ex members to return to the fold.

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      18 days ago

      Isn’t it. It has a strange implication as though being in the office is the proper place and one day we all just forgot to be there.

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      18 days ago

      This guy seems to have no clue that introverts and neurodivergents are way more sensitive to the hot/cramped/bright/loud environment as the toxicity it is - fun fact: open plan offices are considered sexist - and if he can’t engage his people at their fullest simply by enabling people to self-select work environment, then he needs a little more mentoring.

      But that went out of style 20 years ago with technical writers and putting employee health before workload as required.

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        Your first mistake is assuming this person thinks other people are “People,” neurodivirgent or not. Other “people” are objects to be used when useful, and discarded when not. The only thing that matters is what can empower and enrich one’s self.

        Your second mistake is thinking the the “Work Culture” of 20 years ago is a dead ideology. It’s not, they have a goal, and conviction to bring that back.

        I’m not trying to be condescending, or insulting, but these people are incapable of empathy, and don’t have a conscience. The smart ones hide their psychopathy to a degree to keep themselves out of prison. They do not care about anything, or anyone not themselves, or anything that is not useful to their ambitions, or goals.

        I mean that literally. THEY. DO. NOT. TRULY. CARE. ABOUT. ANYTHING. BUT. THEMSELVES.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    I have been in tech for almost thirty years and this August will mark the 20th anniversary of the company I started.

    In my experience, there are two predominant types of tech exec. On the one hand you have the folk who invest in “human capital”, which makes it sound awful but it is meant as a way to acknowledge that your workforce is your main asset, not a liability to be trimmed for cost savings. The other are douchebags like this guy who start and run companies putting out sub par garbage on the cheap. Some of these companies do business at a loss, just so they can show an active book of business so they cam borrow even more money. They are rarely profitable and produce nothing of value…but they do love to circle jerk each other to no end.

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    18 days ago

    The reason they are cheap and dedicated is because they are desperate, living in a country where if they didn’t have this job they would literally be starving and in poverty.

    So CEOs like this are simply capitalizing on their desperation to save money from hiring domestic workers who have a better safety net. Absolutely disgusting pieces of trash.

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      18 days ago

      why does this guy who looks like a 19 year old frat boy believe anyone should listen to his advice?

      No, I get it. He reminds the bosses of their kids who they’re ignoring. He tells them what they want to hear so they can pretend their kids love them.

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        This sounds like the most convincing reason why this guy (or bot maybe) makes these posts. It is posts on LinkedIn afterall.

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          I looked this guy up. In addition to having the most generic white person name ever, and a face that I’m starting to suspect is an AI composite from the prompt of “generic professional white boy”, his website is a shitty SquareSpace template where the links don’t even work and the images are all generated as well.

          His only claim to fame is owning a no-name storage unit business which anyone with some land and Pods can do.

          I think this is a scammer who preys on “entrepreneur” wannabes.

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              Daddy probably bought it for him.

              Anyway, my point is that he’s not some tech startup CEO who hires engineers off shore. He’s the equivalent of someone who bought a convenience store franchise license to “run his own company”.

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        He’s a rich kid who thinks he’s superior.

        Put him to work in a rural South produce picking operation for a year without access to his trust fund.

        But then, he may scheme how to work that situation for more profit after his term.