Americans didn’t, the American elites did. Americans just died in yet another war started by the aristocracy.
To get out from under The British Empire, which is pretty understandable during the time period.
Not very understandable. Britain had become a new and particularly liberal democracy by this point. The colonists were paying much less tax than their cousins back home, and “The Empire” didn’t really get started until after the Americans had revolted anyway.
All of this is bullshit.
What made them “particularly liberal”? They were exporting their “prisoners” to the American colonies. They were still colonizing other territories, extending their reach. They were still selling African slaves via slave trade through The East India Trading Company. The Empire was in full swing by the 1600s, through the 1700s, well into the 1800s where they started to lose steam through the century.
Except that’s not 100% correct.
Sure the American Elite joined in, well, some of them did. Mostly it was revolution driven by the middle class. Maybe the upper middle class, but the stamp and tea taxes were incredibly unpopular.
I’d imagine the sentiment among the poorer people was something along the lines of “better to be lorded over by a local asshole, than one half the world away”.
Also, the quartering bullshit. That was just as unpopular, so much so that we have an entire amendment banning it specifically.
Middle class as in bourgeoisie?
Tradesmen and Merchants.
The layer under the actual elite of the time.
The ones who voted for the tariffs either didn’t know this happened, forgot, or see a lovely shade of plaid when they look up into what we call the sky.
I blame the education system
The education system is just a symptom of Americas culture of ignorance.
I think of this way too much.
You know how Mark Twain said he came in with Halley’s Comet, and he’d go out with it too? That’s us, but with tariffs.
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I understand it’s a little bit different than that. https://youtu.be/uoOEd80IEBE
There was an alternative, but the other methods were cheaper and illegal. Looking up another source( correct me if either is wrong https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/tea-brewing-revolution ) this wasn’t just a thing in America, and it was resulting in a lot of stock sitting on the shelves. The problem was when they made the price go down, and the alternative just illegal.
Seems like people still don’t know the difference between tax and tariffs.
Educate us. What’s the difference?
Taxes are paid at the time of sale, or when profits are generated. Tariffs are prepaid. Companies that import raw materials and goods need large amounts of cash to pay the tariffs at the port.
This makes tariffs profoundly more expensive.
Tariffs are also imposed on foreign trade, which doesn’t apply in this meme, as it was a British colony at that time.
Easy to say when you aren’t being passively spied on by ai. We have created demons and it would take nothing short of a modern Solomon to bottle them.
Opsec is still possible but the effort is considerable
Yea but it’s a continuous struggle the corps pay the best techies in the world they can to work on.
Their oppressors didn’t have tanks.
Our oppressors do.
There’s no way out.
Unless…
Anyone down to steal a tank?
(For Legal Purposes, I’m talking about GTA6 😉)
Ukraine’s doing really well on drones vs tanks
There was a relatively recent report that stated you could DIY a fairly sophisticated “battle” drone for a few hundred dollars that has similar capabilities to the drones being used in Ukraine.
Maybe this is the real reason for the tariffs?
You can’t win a civil war by blowing up all of the infrastructure you rely upon, you do it with boots on the ground, building to building sweeps etc. now, that’s all if you can actually get a civil war going. It’s looking like people are going to sit around and let people get taken one by one.
If there was a revolution it would not come down to tanks.
Theoretically, an oligarchs house gets broken into and there is some bad stuff. Repeat.
The hardest part would be recruiting people to research and post locations and schedules.
There must be an app for that. Lol. We had private jet trackers for a while.
Well… the colonies had “troops” much the same as the oppressors did. They won the troops to thier side. The modern day equivalent would be the national guard, and the state guard. The troops in the colonies technically answered to the king, just like the national guard. So you don’t need to steal the tanks, just win the loyalty of the national guard in a few states to start. Then snowball.
Fuck Rockstar, boycott GTA.
Why boycott if I can just pirate it?
I get to enjoy it and they don’t make any profit from it.
Heck, I’ll seed it and cost them even more profit. 🏴☠️😎
Pirating is boycotting :P
IMHO that’s still contributing to its cultural success. People who can’t pirate won’t want to miss out.
Now that you say it, you’re right. I didn’t think about that.
Thank you!
I mean…
Taxes, “freedom”, “liberty”, “independence”… all these rallying calls were just dogwhistles the American oligarchs used to get the colonists to revolt against the British oligarchs, because they wanted to get rid of the competition. The long con is still going on, the US is and always has been owned and operated by the rich for the benefit of the rich. The mask is just slipping a bit now.
I like how the whole story about a few rich ppl taking the opportunity to profit even more is that much different to what’s happening now.
Y’all really should consider reading this.
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-story-of-the-boston-tea-party-in-myth-and-reality/
It’s way more complicated than the reductionist 5th grade level story taught in US schools that everyone settles on being reality. Right up there with George Washington’s cherry tree story (didn’t happen) or the pilgrims landing at Plymouth Rock (no, they didn’t land there).
The Boston Tea Party was about money, and about people with money being upset that other people with money were undercutting their profits, so they destroyed some really expensive goods in a way that disastrously hurt their own local business owners and not the people they claimed to be trying to hurt.
I’m sure parallels could be made between one of the US’s founding stories being about rich people manipulating the populace into war and today, where rich people are still manipulating people into fighting each other or whomever else.
Ahhh that sounds much more American. Thanks
Take em to class brethren!!
Where’s the other brother? I used to have a roommate that said brethren instead of brother. Brethren is the plural of brother. Just an annoyance from the past resurfacing.
Well I didn’t know the gender of the poster and “sibling” didn’t fit as well so I defaulted to 3rd plural
Comrade is all-inclusive ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I mentioned this in a more fleshed out comment, but I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. This was the annexation of The British Empire from a forming society over a century and a half. During which the local populace would have to deal with British Militia and The East India Trading Corporation who were more loyal at the time to The British.
Did you read the article?
Not your linked article, every time I try to get to it I receive 502 - Bad Gateway.
The article covers everything you posted.
You can search it yourself.
“THE STORY OF THE BOSTON TEA PARTY IN MYTH AND REALITY”
it actually does hint that perhaps the path to overthrowing Trumpism is to radicalize the upper class against his agendas and force direct action. it’s not so far fetched. for instance, Patriotic Millionaires. <- links to a short article about their plan to reduce inequality by taxing wealth
the rich are not a monolith. they each have their own special interests. there are many outside Trump’s inner circle who depends on certain aspects of the economy being stable and profitable. maybe some of those angry multi-millionaites will switch loyalties now they see how bad Elonazi is for their bottom line?
Yep, I really don’t understand how the wealthy in America think that trump will ever stand by his promises. They think that he will bow to them when he has the power to do otherwise? He’s learning from putin and using his techniques to take down the wealthy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was why he’s doing the tariff thing in the first place. Take down Bezos, Apple, etc., so they have to bow to him. They’re in his game and don’t even know it.
To be clear, he’s dumb, but he knows how to hire and listen to really smart, evil people.
Yep, I really don’t understand how the wealthy in America think that trump will ever stand by his promises. They think that he will bow to them when he has the power to do otherwise? He’s learning from putin and using his techniques to take down the wealthy.
they didn’t trust him. they (wrongly) believed that they were powerful enough on their own to control him because they thought they were smarter than him.
they’re all learning what we all learned his first term. it doesn’t matter how smart, how powerful, how rich you are. Donald Trump is a hurricane of chaos, hate, ignorance, depravity, and egoism. they aided him in growing terminal velocity and now he’s unstoppable by standard methods.
we need to wake up and realize that because he gained control through abnormal methods that it will take abnormal methods to restore balance and control.
they didn’t trust him. they (wrongly) believed that they were powerful enough on their own to control him because they thought they were smarter than him.
I agree, but I also think they need to fix the things they helped break. Let them sit in the stew they made and use those super brain cells to get them out of it.
we need to wake up and realize that because he gained control through abnormal methods that it will take abnormal methods to restore balance and control.
Dude, normal people can protest and that’s about it. Don’t get me wrong, protesting works but who knows if that’s enough. But the wealthy control all of our data, the police and our utilities. The wealthy are the only ones that can fix this.
I think it is deeper. They didn’t trust him per se. But they trusted he would screw things up royaly. They have deep pockets. They can weather the storm. The benefit for them is the regression of money to the people. And people who are less comfortable demanding more from companies. A lot of the wealthy are driven by a desire to do things without impediment. Elon is a classic example. He doesn’t want regulations ot uppity employees slowing him down. Other wealthy are similar. So be resetting the regulations and the employee employer balance, they remove obstacles that slow them down from doing what they want to do. Overall, it was getting to hard for them to exploit the people and the planet. And they trusted trump to reset gains in those areas.
I can’t imagine Amazon thinking that a huge chunk of their business would be taken out by 145% tariffs. Yes, they can weather the storm, but he makes his employees pee in bottles. His bottom line is a major focus of his life.
Well sure, he probably didn’t expect 145%. But he operated amazon at a loss for many years. And I think he has mainly gotten what he wanted already. So he can feel free to start pushing back now. And we are seeing signs of that.
In their defense they were drunk as fuck at the time. And were wearing racist costumes for some reason.
Obviously they weren’t thinking clearly. Or much at all.
It’s OK now, they’ve changed their name to the Boston Commanders.
American Revolution 2.0? Please?
Unmute this meme immediately!
Americans today… “Tea is for fags.”
2019?
Meaning ??🤔🤔🤔
It says copyright 2019 in the corner.
That’s part of the cartoon l suppose 🤔🤔🤔
Pardon my ignorance. I thought this was Trump’s first try at tariff wars, but I was wrong. He has also done so in his first term.
Really ?🤔🤔🤔
Anyways, l’m not a citizen of the States.
He did try it then too
Hot damn finally a good one
