Yeah no shit. Everyone’s friggin asleep. Nobody realizes what they see is not some master plan or 4d chess. It’s consolidation of power for something very different than a democracy. A battle with the tech billionares afraid of death and a morally rotten to the core chewy center authoritarian up your heiney.
Remember when Eric Trump compared the Democrats to the Resistance and thought that was a burn?
Strange how the felons kids have stayed real quiet in the last few months…
I always mix up Eric and trump jr. I think trump Jr is the one that has been engaged to Ms Kimberly guillofoyle for the last 6 ulyrar
In andor the empire didn’t propaganda Photo of him with margaritas to appease the boot lickers
I poked my fan into the Star Wars Reddit fandom once, and it seemed like they hate Andor?
I was honestly baffled at the time. It’s like the best Star Wars thing I’ve ever seen.
Honestly only ranks below the original trilogy for me. It’s really fantastic on all levels.
To me, the original trilogy is… ok.
That’s probably why I’m not in the Star Wars fandom, heh.
Still, Andor felt so fundamental, quintessential Star Wars.
To me, the original trilogy is… ok.
The original trilogy has a very mythological feel that none of the other works have ever managed to fully capture (and, honestly, that feeling was on the wane even as early as Episode 6). I can name the modern works, outside of Star Wars, that have that atmosphere on one hand. It’s a very delicate balance to get that atmosphere, and I think even the OT only succeeded at it by happy accident.
Still, Andor felt so fundamental, quintessential Star Wars.
I agree entirely. Can’t wait to see Season 2!
“The original trilogy has a very mythological feel”
I can’t remember where I saw it, but I read something that part of why Andor feels so different to other Star Wars is that the original trilogy (OT) felt like a space opera — the characters exist on a stage, and the world around them ceases to be when the characters leave. This probably contributes to the “magic” of the original trilogy.
Andor, by comparison, has such strong world building and supporting cast that it feels like the world is real, and we only get a small glimpse into what’s going on. My favourite minor character was the dude who hits the anvil-bell thing; he takes his job so seriously that it gives a ritual feel to the job, and I get the sense that this is an honoured role.
I don’t think it’s better or worse than the feel of the original trilogy — just different — but Andor is refreshing because far too much of Star Wars has captured neither the mythological magic of the OT, or the realism of Andor. I think Andor is the last piece of Star Wars that I care about, so I’ll be devastated if season 2 is disappointing
The original trilogy has a very mythological feel
First time I paid any attention watching the original trilogy was after playing Mass Effect, watching DS9, and consuming some other sci-fi/fantasy, even some other Star Wars stuff … I get what you’re saying, but I guess it didn’t strike me as “remarkably mythic” when I first saw it, and that might be because I’d already seen so much?
@[email protected] is getting at what I feel. Andor’s characters and the details of the worldbuilding are so strong. Same with KOTOR II. Even if they’re more inconsistent, rough, or ‘lacking wonder,’ that more than makes up for it to me.
I’m a massive fan of Star wars and even the original trilogy are just meh for me. I much more prefer episode 3, clone wars, rebels, rogue one, andor and games like kotor
Star Wars depend on which age you experience it. Lots of people who’s old enough to watch the original trilogy on theaters are going to say that the OG trilogy is the best. People who grew up with the prequels are going to have similar taste like you.
Leftist and I honestly think it’s one of the most embarrassing pieces of Star Wars media to ever exist
Would you care to elaborate on why that is? I would say it’s easily the best piece of star wars media to come out since Disney took over, and arguably prior to that. It doesn’t get overly bogged down in trying to reference or shoehorn in references to other star wars characters like parts of The Mandalorian or the sequel trilogy and it tells a compelling and emotional narrative about the path one man takes to become a dedicated member of the resistance
Um, but… isn’t this the guy who murdered several guards and robbed star wars fort knox though.
Like, maybe killing cops and stealing from the government isn’t the most heinous crime, but he’s hardly wrongly accused. I’ll concede that they pegged him by accident and for different reasons – but if anything, the moral is “arrest enough people at random and you’ll get the real criminals too.”
That was part of the irony of the show. He did the crime, he got away with it, then he was falsely accused of another crime and thrown in prison. The people who were hunting him were pretty frustrated because they couldn’t find him, and they couldn’t find him because he was in prison under an alias.
He was wrongly accused of the crime that sent him to prison. He did commit the other crimes, killing the 2 guards and robbing Star Fort Knox, but they never caught him for those crimes.
Um, but… isn’t this the guy who murdered several guards and robbed star wars fort knox though.
What are you talking about? He’s just a tourist!
Nobody watched Andor LOL.
Their right-wing mind does not understand metaphors to reality so they don’t see it
That’s why you are woke and they are sleeping.
Pffft. Law&Order types love Robin Hood stories for their kids.
It fits in with the ‘it’s okay to break the law when we do it’ mindset.
Actually (not so) funny story… I had a neo-nazi kid in my class growing up… like wear a nazi arm band to school level, and he was a massive star wars nerd. He actually liked the empire tho, so… he’d be fully on board with this representation
I overheard two kids talking about how much they liked American History X in the late 90’s… they loved the curb stomping scene and how “badass” Derek was. Safe to assume they missed the point.
Amazing that the school didn’t do anything. Curious as to which era of Star Wars this was? Early, Prequels, later?
Well the school was quite limited in what the could do as long as no teacher saw him displaying the symbols directly, so… basically only show it to people when the teacher leaves the room, or during breaks etc.
In terms of eras, im not sure? Im not a star wars fan myself… this was like 2018-2021, so im imagining everything up to then… I know he talked about yoda quite a bit, if he was in a specific era only that may help narrow down his favourite
I figured it was probably an isolated wearing, and of course kids don’t want to be the one who tells on someone.
So he had no real excuse on Star Wars. Not that the early films were less obvious, but there was less to work with and the joke was “the Empire did nothing wrong” to side on the cool side of their tech. But once you pass the point where one of the Dark Side is killing children…and are okay with that not even in a handwaving manner…
No yeah… that guy was like an actual fascist defender when it came to stuff like the holocaust… not denier, defender… killing children was probably the thing that worried him the least there. I remember when in politics class we were supposed to set up our own political parties and have a mock election for a project he did go full alt-right with it too… honestly I kinda wonder to what extent he was actually down that rabbit hole, or if a lot of it was just being edgy… but like… he was in general also super obsessed with military stuff, and at school during P.E. he’d do various exercises you’d get in the army, with the intention to join after graduation… either that or the police, he’d talk about both just as much as star wars, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For a lot of terminally online edgy teens, it all starts as edgy jokes. Like using the n-word, joking about the Holocaust, etc. The problem is that they will be associating with true believers. Their “sense of humor” is off-putting to most people so they retreat further into their echo chambers. The line gets blurry. Time passes and they’ve been pretending to be a fascist for so long that it’s no longer pretend, it’s just who they are.
Remember how pepe the frog, the silly 4chan character, literally turned into a symbol of racism and fascism? It’s this but for real people.
Oh yeah definitely :3… I mean with that guy it just started with being obsessed with the military, and then it was ww2 tactics, and then ww2 nazi tactics, and then suddenly there are swastikas drawn everywhere… so at least some of it was totally going through the nazi pipeline
Kinda wonder what he’s up to now :3
Wouldn’t be surprised if he got his wish to become a cop.
“Right-wing Star Wars fans” in for a rude awakening when they figure out who the Empire represents.
jfc
I wonder if they just haven’t discovered 40k yet.
I had a former coworker who was a hardcore Trump-publican and also really into Warhammer 40k, Star Trek, and to a lesser degree Star Wars, and at least once a week would play Pink Floyd’s “Animals” and “The Wall”. That media illiteracy hits hard.
Well you don’t end up in a clowncult without some sort of severe media illiteracy. It’s essential.
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Why would traitors care at all? They just need to be stopped at this point. Stop the machine, dismantle it, replace it.
They won’t believe anything that does not match their world-view. If you say the guy is innocent, they just say Fox news told them he was in a gang, and they treat that as a fact.
There is no way to get to these people, unless the GOP inflicts personal pain on them, and even then…loyalty and “purity” is everything to them.
The dismissiveness is intense, no matter the fan base.
“I can’t watch Star Trek any more because it’s woke.”
Star Trek is the original, ultimate woke TV. Since the original series, they’ve always incorporated the “woke” of their times, starting with the casting of Uhura. The cast of Roots is sprinkled throughout, which includes Avery Brooks and Lavar Burton. They didn’t quite make it with a female second in command, she ended up as Nurse Chapel instead. Even so, Star Trek TOS is pretty woke for the times.
I can’t imagine blinders aren’t worn regarding the Empire as well. Granted, this comes from recognizing authoritarianism for what it is.
I THINK ITS specifically nutrek that broke thier minds, when they started to force all female leads, a bonus of lgbtq+ people. and not because the nutrek series were terrible compared to the Og ones.
