• BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    I was worried so I looked for the source of the information, it seems to be from 'Washington State University" from their website they say it concerns “Commercial honey bee colony”, so it might not be all bees (I don’t know enough to say what the difference is exactly), they say “60 to 70% losses” (not 80), and they also say “Over the past decade, annual losses have typically ranged between 40 and 50%.”, so it is probably worrying but not as much as the CBS article was making it seem.

    Source: https://news.wsu.edu/news/2025/03/25/honey-bee-colony-declines-grow-as-wsu-researchers-work-to-fight-losses/

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        22 days ago

        Part of the panicking should be wild bees. They’re dying at accelerated rates.

        We also know why, commercial bee keeping is part of it, as is hobbies bee keeping.

        And pesticides… and monoculture farming.

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        22 days ago

        I don’t know whether you were satiric or not, but it feels like it, hard to tell on a text medium. No hard feelings either way 😄

        If you were “mocking my post in a satiric way”: I didn’t mean to say that nothing should be done or that it was not a reason to worry. I actually believe we should protect our ecosystems, but I think we need accurate data and this kind of posts, even if they convey the “right” message according to me, are misleading and create false information about what is going on. I truly believe we should try to avoid doing this.

    • dantheclamman@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      This story is about domesticated honeybees, which have been declining for decades due to Colony Collapse Disorder and other stressors. Native North American bees are in their own long-term decline, with 1 in 4 species at risk of extinction. However, domesticated honeybees are tremendously important for the pollination and yield of many crops important to humans, and this population drop, thought to be the largest annual losses seen, should be considered in the context of the longer decline, and the possibility that we could hit a tipping point when pollination, and a crucial pillar of our food system, could fail.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    23 days ago

    We’re pretty sure it’s the Monsanto pesticide and anyone who suggests it is hit with a litigation threat. Curiously, as we’re speed-breeding domesticated bees the wild bees are dying out faster, so as the bee population dwindles it also becomes more domesticated and less wild. I know that’s a bad thing, but I am fuzzy on the why details.

    I’m a brown thumb, and plants wilt as my shadow falls on them, but if you’re a green-thumb, plant pollinators, which will help the bees.

    Also plant milkweed for the monarchs.

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      23 days ago

      Also, the domesticated bees are generally honeybees. And unfortunately, honeybee and wild bees don’t fulfill the same rile, so even if we replaced wild bees with honeybees 1:1, we still wouldn’t be able to polinate everything.

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      23 days ago

      Plant native. Plants that are native to your ecosystem. Those are the true pollinator powerhouse plants that bees need to survive

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        22 days ago

        I forget the term for non native, non invasive plants (naturalized?) but those are good too. Native is best, of course. I see a ton of carpenter bees (native bees to my area) on my red clover (non native, non invasive).

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          22 days ago

          Unfortunately, naturalized plants are not good. It’s a scale, with invasive plants being extremely bad. Naturalized plants aren’t as bad. But still bad

          In the end, our native insects rely on native plants (with extremely few exceptions to not be distracted by). A native plant can support hundreds or even thousands of species.

          A non native / naturalized plants cannot support even a fraction of that. They can also support… Non native insects. Which in turn fuck up the ecosystem, either by displacement or direct damage.

          I’m not gonna tell you to rip out naturalized plants like clover. I’m not gonna say you should destroy your garden. You should just know that native plants are superior in literally every possible way, and your NEXT plant choices should be as native as you can get :)

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            22 days ago

            If you can suggest native ground cover that is low maintenance and easy to start I’d consider it. I’m not going to put plugs in my yard when I can just over seed with clover. Clover is strictly better than turf grass.

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              22 days ago

              It is better than turf, but I’m not talking about grass lawns, I’m talking about plants like for a garden. It’s better to have more garden plant masses, less grass lawn.

              Most people don’t need as much lawn as they have and reducing down to more what you actually use is great, but it’s totally situational.

              If you wanted a NorthEast suggestion for general ground cover I’d say wild strawberry. But if it’s like … Lawn then just stick with what you’re doing.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      I’ll hop in here and add that your locality probably does pesticide fogging/spraying. For what it is worth, you can ask them not you spray your property. Make some local wildflower patches in your yard. Less stuff you have to mow, more food and habitat for native birds and insects. It’s a win-win.

    • mlg@lemmy.world
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      22 days ago

      Some beekeepers actually mentioned that they’ve been scraping the beeswax clean off their hives more frequently because its known that the beeswax collects pesticides and herbicides over time which affects the colony due to exposure.

      The problem is its not just monsanto acid, there’s a ton of other issues also correlated like weather/climate, seasonal flowering, untreated parasites, bacteria, etc.

      We’ve literally nuked the environment so hard that even if we fix one problem, the population will not make a full bounce back (although I would think monsanto is the biggest threat)

      Biggest scam of this century was corporate produce monoliths convincing people Organic was about health and not the fact that it doesn’t use a scorched earth policy and scam one off hybrid plant seeds to grow food which has been setting us up for a widespread fammine for decades.

      Some random superweed is gonna crossbreed with some rapid out of control growth plant and wipe out half of the food chain.

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      22 days ago

      It’s Bayer’s now. Monsanto sold it to Bayer when they started getting heat for neonicotinoids killing all the bees.

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    22 days ago

    That’s $15 billion worth of crops.

    They just can’t break out of that frame, even when the topic is EVERY LIVING THING FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH.

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        22 days ago

        As one stuck in Cheetoland, I deeply apologize for what he’s doing despite the efforts that had been undertaken to stop him and if he does end up attempting to annex your nation, I want you to know I preemptively surrender and defect to the Canadian Armed Forces.

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    23 days ago

    Bees live less than two months, so if 80% of bees died in the last 8 months that would suggest a sharp recent increase. And even if you take it as read that it means bees dying and not being replaced, 8 months is still a terrible timeframe to use because it’s literally saying “there are 80% fewer bees now, at the tail end of winter, than there were at the height of bee season”.

    I’m not saying there isn’t a bee crisis, just that this factoid is very badly worded.

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      22 days ago

      Without looking at data it could also mean “beginning 8 months ago we noticed a downwards trend of bees compared to the prior year(s) that culminates to an 80% decline at the time of writing.”

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    22 days ago

    Shame. The US is a beautiful country and psycho cult rednecks have let deregulation ruin such beautiful wilderness.

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    22 days ago

    The longer I live the more I see modern civilization collapse inevitable and happening in the relatively near future.

    How the fuck do you even prepare for something like that?

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      22 days ago

      U don’t. U just watch it collapse. If u cannot control something, don’t worry too much. That’s my take. Enjoy everyday.

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      22 days ago

      Fall back to the fundamentals - communities, you’re part of many, join more. The people in your community can work together for survival or or turn against each other. You have a chance if you work with people, but not much of one if you try to lone wolf it. History is prologue. (your community should include everyone you can get on board, I’m not saying huddle up, I’m saying join the fight - It’s wealth disparity and it’s a global war)

      If we were to do that now, we could take it all back in a week, but we won’t do that. Humans have to lose something important to them before they really take a look around and desperation kicks in, and too many aren’t seeing much difference yet. If you really connect to your community, they’ll see your suffereing or someone elses and that might be the catalist for them, but we’re easy to pick off piecemeal and lazy as fuck, so we’re losing meters every day.

      There’s volumes of context here and I’m getting dragged into minutia, but we die apart, live together. That’s the formula, history proves it.

  • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    22 days ago

    honeybees are an invasive species, fun fact

    unfortunately they outcompeted a lot of the native pollinators so we’re fucked without them though