How is this shit is not banned yet? Since when is supporting criminal activities ok?
What kind of acid?
I’m guessing lemon juice. It’s corrosive and if left on a stainless steel surface for a longer time, especially in sunlight, it can cause stains and discoloring.
I want to know as well, because that could make it very dangerous.
I get the feeling that acid was just added to the reports to shift public opinion
Yea I can’t find anything. I see something about elon posting tweets while on acid; another of tesla dumping bunches of chemicals into river ways in austin and other places when searching for tesla & acid lol
My bet would be that it’s glass etchant.
Typically not an acid, but a fluoride salt, since acids containing the fluoride ion are very dangerous (I’ve got a reminder of it on my leg, splashed some stainless weld cleaner on my trousers without noticing at first. Goes bad extremely fast, heals extremely slow. Affected areas should be immediately flushed with water, and possibly followed up with soda water.)
I would guess it’s potassium bifluoride or ammonium bifluoride. Or if really acid, then hexafluorosilicic acid.
I wonder if there’s a point. Dropping gravel from a drone would likely achieve the same effect, and gravel is literally dirt cheap - you don’t have to buy it, you can collect it from a roadside.
I assume the best way to be “hard to catch” if using acid would be the most generic easy to get acid… muriatic acid from home depot / lowes right? (hydrochloric acid) It does mess up stainless steel but not sure what they’re doing with the acids in balloons, which is why it doesn’t seem real lol. all seems kinda silly
I’m not up for punishing individuals, especially those who may have bought their cars well before Musk even bought twitter.
Well. Cybertrucks have only been out since his mask was off. I’m less concerned about vandalizing those.
JFC this is beyond twisted, and I’m here for it!
acid balloons.
yeah. if the gestapo catches those people, they’re going to be charged with terrorism and there wont be much of a defense.
Nonsense.
They still have the acid drones for defense.
Glorious
I really wish that people had listened to us (collectively) if not when we were pointing out that Musk was union busting, then at least when he made the useless metal death tube to rescue children out of an underwater cave and accused the guy who actually got them out of being … (cw: holy fucking shit)
spoiler
… a pedo
But no, years later and now people suddenly see it. Better late than never, but god damn if a lot of the damage hasn’t already been done.
I learned very quickly when I graduated with a CS degree in 2015 that every single actual engineer fucking hates him. Like everyone I met in San Jose hated him and Tesla. Except for maybe managers or executives no one with actual skill in that field respects him for anything. It’s like when he played PoE on stream and it was obvious to anyone that ever played games that he had no idea what he was doing. That’s basically how its felt for anyone that works for one of his companies or even works in a similar field. It’s been that way for us for well over a decade.
This is the difference between “Tech Bros” and people that work in Tech.
I’m surprised you can breathe in that ivory tower. the air must be really thin.
so, what did you do outside of an arm chair to stop the spread of Musk branded fascism?
What’s your problem? The OP said they wish people turned against Musk sooner. I do too. And since you’re talking about ‘Musk branded fascism’, I assume you agree as well. So why are you being a dick?
my problem is people who chastise others over not acting sooner.
yeah, sure, ensuring Musk never got to where he is would have been great. Had we known what he was going to do now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing, but serves no other purpose in this case but to distract and perpetuate the notion that we should have acted sooner on information we didn’t have until now.
Musk is a fascist, but did ANYONE believe he was capable of doing the things he’s doing now, then?
if anyone says yes, they’re lying.
my problem is people who chastise others over not acting sooner.
All they said was that they wish people had listened. Thats it. The only one who’s mentioned action is you.
Musk is a fascist, but did ANYONE believe he was capable of doing the things he’s doing now, then?
Yes, because he’s always been a billionaire with no morals, he’s always treated people like shit and he’s always put money ahead of everything, even his own family members. Someone who can do those things is capable of anything.
if anyone says yes, they’re lying.
lol.
From my point of view, the OP’s comments were broadly expressing a vibe that Musk’s popularity lasted too long; but I did not see the post as chastising anyone. Your post, on the other hand, was a direct attack. I don’t think that was helpful in any way.
I can at least now understand why you didn’t like the OP’s comment, but I still think what you said was out of order.
GreenKnight23 is a troll. Block and move on with your life, secure in the knowledge that this block will result in nothing of value will be missed.
how’d you get that idea?
just because someone calls out bullshit behavior that you agree with doesn’t make them a troll.
if I was a troll I’d ask some incendiary question like, "how can you breathe-- ohhhh…
it was an incendiary rhetorical question, but that’s only because they’re saying we should have done something sooner because of information we didn’t have until recently.
that’s like saying someone should have stopped Hitler because we all know he was a bad guy, now.
The Swasticar belongs in a Museum.
Not to be honored, but to remembered as the car of American Fascism, an exhibit to ensure we never forget atrocity
“The Homer”
and to warn against horrible design
I know that fascist morons are taking over America but won’t somebody PLEASE think of the Teslas!
Cars are expensive and attacking people who worked hard to get what they once thought was the option in the market is counterproductive.
I’m all for this on the dealerships but a lot of people can’t afford to just sell their vehicle, some can’t afford normal maintenance expenses, on a vehicle that is likely heavily financed.
I mean, all out for cybertrucks and the other arseholes that are now aware of who Musk really is and what a fraud Tesla as a brand is but indiscriminately attacking ALL Teslas could be hurting vulnerable people that aren’t in the financial situation to dispose of their car.
Finally! I’ve been saying this multiple times and I get a lot of hate for it. Tesla owners are dehumanised at a rapid speed. I laugh so hard about LedByDonkeys actions and other groups, but attacking Tesla owners isn’t the way. (And no I don’t have, ever had a Tesla)
“Vulnerable people” could never afford Teslas, even before everyone realized Elon was a douchebag.
I know several people who are struggling who bought used Teslas so they could use them for Uber gigs.
You can argue that was not a smart idea and I’d agree. But vulnerable people are just people, and people are not always effective strategists.
I was waiting for the inevitable hand wringing “direct action bad” comment.
To quote freely from the kangaroo:“why is the left so much worse than the right? - The left burns cars, the right burns foreigners. I own a car, but I don’t own a foreigner“
Boo hoo. Supporting a Nazi should be financial suicide. Unless the car is a 2015 or before, the emerald mine owners son has been a piece of shit.
Sell the Tesla cars for scraps? At least the disillusioned owners would get something.
Turn the car panels into pans. Something stainless steel is actually good for.
This is a boring take. Everyone to the center left has tried extensively to talk through why what’s happening is bad, wrong, awful, stupid, in all the best faith ways there is to literally deaf ears. Every word is intentionally misunderstood and weaponized for further propaganda. Speech has been watered down by a torrent of others saying nothing and nonsense.
Tesla has been steadily declining with every action Elon takes. Trade-ins exist, they’ve been viable for years. If they’ve had them for awhile, they bought them when they were considered cutting edge. Who is buying bleeding edge tech while being financially unable to trade it in for something else from then to now?
Talking has produced nothing, warranting action. Elon has been steadily descending into madness for all to see, it’s no secret and it wasn’t fast. Those who still have them and those that buy them even now do so willingly. Ignorance at this stage is not an excuse. These people aren’t vulnerable any more than someone who buys a pair of Yeezy shoes. “What if they can’t afford another pair??” Brother stop.
But still, this isn’t targeting Elon, it’s targeting people. It’s a strategy of the powerful to make people fight each other instead of them. It’s funny, but very inefficient. Do something that actually targets the regime.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi. I cannot afford to just get rid of it. Anybody damaging my car is not helping the cause.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi.
when was that?
Not who you asked, but I would happily give anyone the benefit of the doubt about having any sense of who Musk really is who bought their car before Musk bought twitter in 2023.
Exceptions to every rule. Why haven’t you, since learning this, attempted to trade it in? I understand not being able to get an entirely new car from zero but Tesla has kept it’s value until very recently. Why hold it?
Ben Shaprio take
No one wants to buy one. Who will they trade with? What dealership is buying these for anything reasonable?
My brother their stock only recently started dropping due to hard boycots and vandalism, they’ve had value for years. This was not recent. What dealership refused a Tesla trade in?
Even if you trade in, you aren’t leaving with a different car without a higher monthly payment unless you take a major downgrade in automobile. A lot of people can’t afford a higher payment right now.
I’ve only ever traded in a vehicle I’ve fully paid off and the money that would have been handed to me for that trade goes towards the down payment of the new vehicle.
Assuming the vehicle was bought prior to people being aware Musk was Trump aligned (about when he bought Twitter), most vehicles would be mostly paid off if not fully.
I have to reiterate though that if someone can’t afford a vehicle due to a change in circumstances, trading it in for a cheaper vehicle is a pretty common sense decision. You aren’t paying off a vehicle that’s no longer in your possession.
I hear ads on the radio that polestar is giving 20k trade in for your Tesla. Idk their financing options so they might still be expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if other electric car makers will give similar incentive to switch brands.
Destroying a random man’s tesla is not action. Action is going to your congress man’s door and showing them you mean business when you torch their car. Torching a random guy’s car (who’s probably left of center, given they’re driving electric) is counterproductive.
Really? Tesla seems to be pretty undesirable right now being targets for vandalism. Vandalism inspired by a majority shareholder practicing facism openly. Congress is doing nothing, it’s majority Republican, they will take no action against Trump. It’s a complete waste of time.
Again, if you still have a Tesla now, you are not center left. Everyone’s had the chance to trade it in prior to the stocks diving, right now it’s a conscious choice. It’s not “some poor, random citizen” it’s a Musk supporter. Full stop.
Furthermore, he’s Trump’s boyfriend, even got him to do a Tesla commercial on the Whitehouse lawn. Electric cars are for the right too now!
You assume so much of other’s people’s lives. It must be easy to live like that, huh? Is it so hard to imagine that other people live different lives and may not have had the ability or desire to trade it in? Too bad for them, I guess.
You can have your opinions, but attacking cars of people who are not involved in making decisions that matter is nonsensical and short-sighted at best.
Where’s the assumption? If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling. Buying one of the first EVs is not a “I’m broke” decision the same as buying luxury shoes. Your position is that in the last five or so years someone could have zero ability to trade in their brand new Tesla? Use common sense, I implore you. Obviously there are outliers but no, most people had the chance.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense. Support of fascism should be met with escalating resistance. We’ve had years to discuss it, yet here we are.
Fredthefishlord made some great points. Your timeline is completely off and unrealistic. The major controversies surrounding Musk have only really come to light in the past couple years. Before that, buying a Tesla was seen as a green, eco-friendly option with newer technology. Expecting people to trade in their Tesla immediately, or even within a year or so, is just unrealistic.
Second, financing exists. Not everyone who buys a nice car is well off or in a position to trade it in, and even if they are, that doesn’t mean it’s the best option for them. Trade-ins still usually require a deposit if you want something equally beneficial. Not everyone can afford that, especially with how recent all of this is. You act like this was some long-term open secret when in reality a lot of people bought their cars before any of this was common knowledge.
You argue like a Republican. You ignore the actual points made just so you can keep pushing this closed-minded idea that everyone should see everything exactly as you do and act at the exact pace you expect. If they don’t, they deserve to be attacked and have their car destroyed, even if it’s their only way to work and make the money they’d need to replace it. That’s absurd.
This is just selfish and short-sighted. “They don’t think like me so attack them until they do” is not activism, it’s just stupidity. You’re advocating for harming random people (yes harming people’s method of travel/income is harming their livelihood) who might not even support Musk, just because you assume they do. At best you’re wasting energy. At worst you’re hurting people who don’t deserve it.
Right like anybody is going to come to a different conclusion that they actually can afford to get a different car just because one guy on the Internet says so. Dumping a perfectly working vehicle just because the brand personality of the make no longer fits your ideal self is fiscally irresponsible.
If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling.
People can lose their jobs after buying something. People can stretch beyond their means to buy something.
Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.
brand new Tesla?
If it’s used it’s by definition not brand new lol. 5 years has not been recent enough to realize musk is a Nazi. Closer to around 2 more realistic. Maybe 1 even.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense.
That’s not a Republican argument.
Trading a car in is a big decision if you aren’t rich, especially if it’s your first newer car.
Is this enough to save democracy in US, sure it’ll cost Elon some money, but I don’t know if that is enough, it’s the goverment which needs to be protested against, and they seem unconcerned, cause no matter what horrible unconstitutional thing they do, it just seems like all the opposition does is hold up protest signs and write a strongly worded tweet
God no, we failed at saving Democracy. Republicans are shoving their fingers into every dark and dirty spot America has, violating everything and barely lying to try and cover it. What’s happening now is a desperate attempt to do something to not feel so god damn helpless. There is no legal road anymore. There is only one way to wrestle back control from a lawless executive branch and the founding fathers made it clear they intended it to be the end of a musket.
sure it’ll cost Elon some money
The dude is helping himself to the US Treasury. There’s no way he really gives much of a fuck about Tesla sales.
That’s the stupidest shit I’ve seen today
There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. I am a Transwoman with a paid off model 3 please dont fuck with my only mode of transportation, im already about to snap as it is… do something that will actually help instead of trying to force folks to spend more money they dont have, to pass consumption purity tests.
You say do something that will actually help; like what?
Seems like this shit has got you frustrated as a Tesla owner. That’s the point. You have the car, you know what people think of Tesla and you are their customer.
What if you actually helped by calling up your Tesla dealership and telling them how frustrated you are that their Nazi CEOs actions are causing shit to be dropped on your car.
How on earth would such a phone call make any difference at all to anything?
EDIT Oh sorry I missed your joke… there are no Tesla dealerships.
Locally organize, volunteer, unionize your workplace, or start a tenant union if you rent. The fact that you think calling a tesla dealership and complaining to an employee is going to hurt tesla is laughable, because tesla doesnt even operate through dealerships, and even if they did it would literally do nothing whatsoever.
Yeah, I agree, it doesn’t help. In car dealerships? That at least doesn’t affect people who bought a tesla because they cared for the environment before Elon went full Nazi.
Maybe get one of those “i got this before Elon was a nazi” stickers or something? Dumping it onto the used market for cheap would be ideal but I get it. I’m in the market for a new (used) car right now and taking on a monthly payment again isn’t something I’m looking forward to and could easily be considered a hardship.
Yeah cause drones are gonna read a bumper sticker before dropping shit on a car.
Just trying to help, enjoy getting shit dropped on your Swasticar I guess, it’s nothing to me.
You do realize Henry Ford supported the original Nazis right… My bad for not buying a new goddamn car cause I’m saving up for bottom surgery. I guess this is what i should have expected to happen when liberals try Antifascist action lmao.
I guess this is what i should have expected to happen when liberals try Antifascist action lmao.
As opposed to your selfless sacrificial “action” of… keeping your car and driving it around? Musk would see you exterminated, get some solidarity, dump your Swasticar and buy a fucking Camry or something.
Go shopping for some frozen fish, test drive a Tesla, ‘forget’ your grocery bag after. Make sure it’s right before dealership closing time for maximum effect.
The only downside of this plan is you have to drive a Tesla. Sacrifices have to be made.
Is there anything illegal with shitting yourself in a test drive?
Illegal? Probably not, but you’d be on the hook for cleaning costs
This is asking a lot.
