Remind me, who’s the one saying people have _____ Derangement Syndrome?
Trans Derangement Syndrome. Fight the transphobia.
musk is clearly a deeply disturbed person. this explains a lot and is, in and of itself, deeply disturbing.
a couple of thoughts that i’m sure aren’t popular on their face:
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it takes a village to fail an idiot. elon has shown in the past that he’s capable of being better than he is now. i don’t think there’s anyone in the world who* actually, really needs a genuine, loving hug right now more than he does (*edit - fixed sentence)
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it’s impossible to grow, learn, and make mistakes as a fucking trillionaire without it affecting millions of lives. everyone deserves to be able to make mistakes and learn and grow. it hurts us ALL when we allow people to amass such perverted fortunes. there shouldn’t be super-rich people with respect to the rest, because it’s harmful to all involved
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elon is in pain. not just right now, but all the time. it’s easy to see that he has a lot of regrets. he’s still human, and he’s still got a conscience. he’s just misled, and it might be better to rally around him right now than to burn down his dealerships
i’m sorry - i know at least one of these is completely crazy - i’m just racking my brain trying to think of new things, because the way i’m currently thinking is fucking me up.
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
Fuck a hug, dude needs a comically large cigar tip cutter
i did not specify now long nor now strong the hug should be
edit - according to current sources, i don’t think a cigar tip cutter would facilitate your objectives.
he meant a guillotine
Very simple reason why:
He’s not better than this, simply because he would rather have this insane amount of wealth and NOT use it to aid people.
I hate bezos for that, I hate musk for that, and I hate Zuckerberg for that. Musk gets more hate for all the actions he has taken to benefit himself and the other billionaires. He has so much more blood on his hands than that United Healthcare CEO, and I am very much okay with what happened to that guy
Cancer cells are just doing their best to survive but if no one will treat it I sure as hell am going to call it some dirty names.
fuck me, why does the most apt reply always have to be the last one i see?
totally get where you are coming from and thanks for the considered reply. I am sure others will answer, but here is mine…
the immediate, urgent imperative is extracting our collective asses from this mess. after that we need to discuss and make real proper boundaries on the nature of accumulated power and wealth.
I am personally not disposed to handle musk with kid gloves. his actions, and the actions of the other deranged humans he has enabled, directly affect people in my family in ways that place them in mortal danger. given the nature of his trauma (yup, he displays obvious trauma) and the path it entrenched him in, my inner armchair psychologist whispers to me that the only option is mitigation and management - or removal of the problem (non-violently… of course, right?). I do not believe there is redemption to be had for musk - and yes… that said I accept that I, personally, am probably a misguided human.
now, if someone were to conclusively show that hugging it out with musk would change course for the thousands, millions, billions of people who will be harmed by his ego, then I will personally line up and do so. however, at this moment in time the man is insulated enough so as to make him unreachable - just like the others he orbits with.
I believe the only option is mass protest and mass disobedience and there will be pain and there will likely be blood for many and I wish it were not so.
I cannot find the capacity to soothe musk back into his humanity - I do not begrudge those who might try, however futile I think it may be. and so, organization around alternate options remains a necessity.
i agree, and… i know that it must run its course now, but it’s unfortunate to see what i see as a lonely, creative kid whose life’s circumstances have stunted and perverted his desires, and now he’s just awful but he still thinks he’s doing good. a trillion dollars has got to fuck with anyone’s head. it shouldn’t be this way. (edit:) No one should have that much money. It fucks up inventors, it fucks up musicians, it fucks up religious leaders… it just shouldn’t be. Why do we let that happen to good people?
He was a bully as a child. He’s not a trillionaire. He’s a crime against humanity, Fuck off Elmo !
I’m sorry, but seriously fuck him with the rusty chainsaw he used as a stand in for all the insecurity he has.
We are well past “you could do better” and more “needs to be tried for literally working to dismantling the government and ruining countless lives”
i’m not saying he’s not accountable, i’m just saying it could have been different. we all should have seen the culture war long before it cost us the fucking world. cowboy hats or extensions, you’re (edit: we’re) all fucked now.
The culture war has always been a manufactured distraction creates by conservatives to make people blame the powerless instead of the wealthy for their problems.
As a trans person I am fully aware of the culture war because it effects me directly. I was aware of it long before I considered I might be trans.
But the culture war is still a distraction. They want to blame the economy and stuff on everything but “corporate greed”.
But as much if a distraction as it is it sti does harm. It still kills people.
A-fucking-MEN. (edit: probably the worst possible time to ‘split the infinitive’ so to speak, but whatever)
for what it’s worth, i was trying to provide food for thought.
i hope you have a good sense of humour, because i imagine your typos are the result of having long, fabulous fingernails :P
The only chance to show him a better way probably over by the mid 80s. He had cemented a sense of superiority by then and whatever humility he might have had was completely blown away when he managed to sell Zip2 for millions, before anyone knew who he was.
The only way to “resolve” the “culture war” to Elon’s satisfaction would have been for Vivian to deny her identity and keep trying to be Elon’s son. There’s no fair or equitable resolution that caters to Elon’s sensibilities.
That’s the most fucked up part to me. His dick is broken, so he has to rely on IVF for kids. He’s apparently obsessed with having sons, so I’m sure that some fuckery went on with said IFV. and then he had a “son”. but his “son” realized that their gender was engineered. i can’t imagine how fucked up it must be to be her and realize that. now, her fucked up father is saying stuff like “my son is dead”. I think I recommended the wrong target for the hug.
Yeah, I couldn’t imagine ever acting like that toward my child the way he acts toward her. Just flat out declaring your child dead to everyone and refusing to acknowledge who they are now, just because of what they chose to do with their own life… It’s pretty heart breaking.
He doesn’t even have an excuse of losing his path to a genetic legacy, he’s got a dozen living children who may still go on to have children. He’s neglected all of them until Luigi killed a CEO and suddenly he’s carrying one around like an ornament all the time, but still they got his genes, for better or worse.
Maybe 1970s Elon could have used a few more hugs, but this century it’s just too late.
sometimes you just have to give credit where it’s due, and i’m sure my LLM query cost a bunch of people a day’s worth of artificial light, but here goes:
- anti-triumph
- a morality tale
- a cosmic farce
- an existential horror
- a shakespearian tragedy
- a greek tragedy
- a geek tragedy
- a cautionary tale
(i added the geek tragedy one. tip your waitresses)
yknow some people just say they’re OK with the “T” part of LGBTQ until their kid or brother becomes one.
the term “NIMBY” comes to mind. i never understood how someone can take offense to another person trying to feel more comfortable. isn’t that what we’re ALL trying to do?
Jesus may have turned the other cheek, but they executed him anyway.
i don’t get your point
Elmo isn’t going to give you money. No matter how much you slurp :)
Having an understanding that the issue is systemic and that all people ultimately deserve compassion, understanding, and justice does not negate the threat posed by someone in that position. Showing compassion to a person like that, who is an active threat, is dangerous. Once their ability to cause harm has been reduced or removed, then we can safely engage with them.
thanks, you’re right. but do you think it’s gonna take much longer to bring him to that level? something inside me wants to see the bigger Elon prevail. or do you think bringing him lower is just going to make him ore vindictive? he isn’t really hanging around with good friends these days.
(ps - i’m not being apologetic, i just really want to make sense of this)
Honestly, you are a detriment to the human race, and you are pathetic.
I guess my thought is: What if we had more of a “We know you’re better than this” vibe than the whole “fuck you nazi” vibe?
He would continue dragging us all further to the right. That was the attitude many gave him, he just revealed how wrong they were to assume he was better than that
He’s literally the grandchild of Nazi supporters on both sides of his family, it’s super likely if not confirmed his parents were also Nazis. Dude isnt better than this and never has been
Nah. Are you Elon? There’s a point where you have to recognize that a shitheel is still a shitheel. YOU hug him. I’d as soon piss on him for the harm he’s done to others. BY your logic, a billionaire (He’s NOT a trillionaire) doesn’t deserve second chances because the damage has been too great. There is only unfulfilled justice remaining, and hopefully that will catch up with him sooner rather than later.
Guy has been at least been privately documented as an asshole for decades.
During his dance at his first wedding reception, he informed his wife that he was the “alpha”.
When his infant son died in 2002, he largely ignored it and said his wife being in pain over their baby dying was just her being “emotionally manipulative”.
He constantly demanded her to act and look a certain way, and berated her for being a bad wife.
He was not a better person back then, he just had a more carefully curated online and media presence. His ego has brought him to the point of dropping all pretense.
You can’t just keep assuming the best of someone acting badly and hope that support and understanding will bring the person around.
yeah, you’re right. nothing he does is sincere. i’m just racking my brain trying to find ways for change that don’t involve immolating dealerships. but i suppose that the French have already taught us better.
Your heart is in the right place. Violence alone cannot create a good world. We must strive for empathy and however and whenever this ends a lot of people doing bad things now will need reintegration into society.
But right now they’re running wild and hurting people. I think your empathy is better given to the red hat down the street that feels trapped and like society and the economy have passed them by.
Elon is in agony. His wealth is wounding him and making him unable to stop doing evil things. But he won’t give it up without a huge fight and he won’t change with offers. He thinks he’s winning right now.
For a good example of someone with too much money who has been offered countless gentle hands out of bigotry look at JK Rowling, who’s refused people who were once incredibly close to her giving gentle “hey you’re being bigoted and it’s hurting people who admire you and it’s hurting your reputation and legacy”.
If you want to do the noble work of helping tight wingers out of the far right look for videos from people who left the alt right talking about their indoctrination and leaving.
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Did you see the video of him at one of the mar a Lago dinners yesterday, he was definitely high playing with the silvery, and his baby mama was swaying back and forth
What a dumbass 😂. You cannot kill an idea, it will always be here.
You’re gonna die first, you cowardly drug addict bigot piece of shit.
He likes drugs and has no one to tell him “no.”
That’s a risky combination.
We should hook him up with Michael Jackson’s doctor.
And Kanyes dentist and Mathew Perry’s health guru
And Luigi’s hip iron.
God, I hope so.
Why do you think he’s wearing his others kid like body armour
“You’re dead to me” is what a bad parent would say. To do it over political ideology is even worse.
He’s a narsassistic asshole who apparently did IVF for all his kids because he wanted all boys.
That one of the kids ended up being a girl because she’s trans despite his effort at avoiding it seems to drive him crazy, especially as someone who thinks he owns his children.
he’s an asshole like all conservatives.
He’s not just narcissistic, he’s also autistic.
I’m autistic. What’s your point?
Politicising mental disorders is the same bullshit no matter which disorder. Musk is a person, his autism and narcissism have nothing to do with his political choices.
His narcissism most certainly has to do with his political choices, especially since it seems his narcissism is driving him to do stupider and more damaging actions. Also I doubt he is autistic dude was looking for an excuse for being unfunny and about as charismatic as a rotting opposum corpse cooking on the side of the road, also the afformentioned uncontrolled narcissism and long history of lying makes anything he claims suspect.
I doubt he has narcissism as much as you doubt he has autism. He doesn’t have a diagnosis. It’s just rumours. That’s not a good enough basis to be ableist. You’re forming stereotypes about narcissism based on a rumour based on stereotypes. It’s fucking xkcd citogenesis. You’re inventing your own truth whole cloth.
I’m addressing the trait of narcissism not the mental illness of narcissistic personality disorder. Two different things ones a mental illness and the other is being a maladaptive bitch who thinks they’re the center of the universe and everyone else is an NPC, I’ll give you that musk is definitely mentally fucked by multiple metrics but it ain’t ableist to point out that his mental issues are contributing to his political spiral. Just like how my mother’s abuse was made worse by her bipolar swings Musks Nazi tendencies were caused by his maladaptions and accelerated by his addiction.
Analysis requires acknowledgement of all factors and guess what to analyze Musk you have to factor in his mental instability. Mental illness often times often times works as an acceleratent for negative tendencies I know this from personal experience, both with my mother and my own issues since PTSD and autism is a right volatile mix.
Regardless I don’t feel like there’s any point in being not ableist to Musk, it’d probably piss him off. Treat him like the depressed little shit stain he is, maybe we will get lucky and he’ll decide to air out his skull with a 12 gauge slug.
Autism has nothing to do with how he acts. Dont push that crap “he is autistic thats why he acts that way”
I agree. But Naia was politicising mental disorders and I thought I’d dare them to go all the way. I hate it when cowards only go after the mental disorders everyone already hates. It’s picking on the weak. Go big or go home!
What politicizing? That he is a narsassistic asshole? He’s also a psychopath, like all billionaires.
I don’t really know what you are even saying. Being autistic does not make you do nazi salutes then joke about it with puns when called out on it.
No mental disorder makes you do Nazi salutes
I’m ADHD and probably autistic. I wouldn’t consider any theoretical children I could have as property nor dismantle programs people rely on to survive.
Being autistic and a greedy asshole is not mutually exclusive. There’s a big difference in not understanding social queues or whatever and having a breeding fetish or whatever he has when it comes to kids.
On top of all the other horrible things. Like Trump he desperately wants praise and such. Its why he lashed out and called that one guy a “pedo” because he felt upstages when he couldn’t be the one to take credit for saving the kids, not that he cared about the kids.
You should feel equally angry when people politicise any mental disorder.
But I’m not politicizing mental disorders. I’m calling an asshole an asshole.
Anyone who then comes out with the BS “but he’s autistic” is trying to politicize autism while also excusing his actions that are literally costing lives.
So spare me your moral outrage while my existance as both a neurodivergent person and a trans person is under attack by the peice of shit you are treating with kid gloves if not trying to defend
You politicised narcissism. Don’t do that. It’s offensive. And if you are going to be a bigot and attack him for having a mental disorder, I dare you to go all the way. Attack him for all his mental disorders, not just the ones society will let you get away with. Commit to your values properly. Go big or go home.
I feel like you are missing the forest for the trees here. You keep fixating on this like some kind of “gatcha” using the exact same phrasing as his defenders who claimed he did the Nazi salute because he’s autistic.
I personally do not give a flying fuck on what “mental disorders” he has. Also, autism is a developmental disability, not a mental disorder. There is a difference.
As far as “politicizing narcissism”, how is pointing out he has traits associated with politicizing it? Like, he’s a fucking fascist who is using the absurd level of wealth he’s accumulated to basically buy the government and get unelected power he is using to dismantle any agency that benefits the masses or has investigated him for business violations.
That’s on top of the social issues where he and Trump are trying to make it harder for minority groups to exist in the world.
It’s been well researched that conservatives tend to have many more narcissistic traits because the entire political ideology hinges on hierarchy and a “fuck you, I got mine” mentality. It’s also been well researched that CEOs are all more likely to have psychopathic traits.
It’s not “politicizing” pointing out traits someone has to explain what they are doing in politics or harm they are causing in general. If someone is a self-centered asshole who act like they are better than everyone else and uses that as the basis for denying other people rights then I don’t really care what the reason behind their self-centered nature is. An asshole is still an asshole. There is no justification or excuse for what they do.
You are basically saying “you’re the bigot” when I point out that a fascist is a fascist. You ignore the substance of what I and others are saying to just attack us and hand wave any issues we have with Musk.
Again, if you feel it’s more important to tone police us because we aren’t using language you like when we talk about a literal fascist that is causing uncountable harm and death, who is supporting and pushing for multiple genocides, who sees his children as property and is using a toddler as a human shield, then I don’t think we are going to find common ground here.
Musk’s actions are indefensible. The only people I’ve seen argue against criticism of him are his sycophants. You are doing “so much for the tolerant left” bullshit. My only question is if you are actually one of his cult members or just misguided.
But in the end it doesn’t matter. If you defend a fascist you are a fascist…
We should probably be more invested in renaming the disorder from a term that’s been an insult for millenia and as such would always be stigmatized
Yeah. Although it’s worth remembering it was an insult with a very different meaning in ancient Greece. Elon Musk is an attention seeker, but Narcissus wasn’t. Narcissus caused all that drama by not wanting to date anyone. Ameinias fell in love with Narcissus and asked for his hand in marriage. Narcissus said no, and told Ameinias to fuck off and die. So Ameinias prayed to the gods “let him love what he cannot have”, and that’s how the reflection thing happened. Narcissus was the opposite of an attention seeker, he just wanted to be left alone.
Yep and if he’s controlling he’ll HATE that she’s not doing as he wants and living as the gender she was assigned at birth
His kids are all IVF because his penis got broken during vanity enlargement surgery. Balding, chinless, dickless wonder who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers. Respect to his daughter for being what she is, and not what he wants.
who somehow thinks HIS genes need to be propagated with gold diggers.
Who else is he going to propagate his genes with? At least they get paid for their service?
I was kinda implying there’s shitty genes from both sides, when both parents are shitty…
if anyone wants to check your post history, i’d bet they’d agree that your mother wouldn’t be very proud of you.
I loathe Trumpists, russian orcs and Musk cucks. Of course YOU don’t like it !
yeah, that all totally sounds like me.
where the fuck did you get the idea that i’m totally different from everything i say?
Twitter likes are more important to him than the wellbeing of his daughter
Not even political ideology, she’s just trans.
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I think this is innately a deeply personal issue to him - and he is now going to train the firepower of “the richest person on the planet” on everyone. thats where the politics and ideological alignment may come in.
one hell of a (sad?) real life “super-villain” origin story. the man needs mental help, and derision, but a lot of serious mental help.
The richest man in the world can buy anything except the love and admiration of his own child.
he WAS the richest, but last i saw, his personal net worth went down $200B! the largest loss of net worth ever. Keep it up guys and he’ll be in the gutter
He will never ever be in the gutter. I’m sure he has enough liquidity that he will be very wealthy no matter what his stock does, even if he couldn’t extract another penny out of his stocks somehow.
One man’s transphobia and horrible parenting is tearing this country to pieces. This is the worst possible timeline. I can’t even begin to imagine what his daughter is feeling right now.
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She just did an interview and a photoshops in Teen Vogue. Vivian said she’s not afraid of her father at all and that he’s pathetic (direct quote) and that he can go to hell (paraphrasing).
The interview dropped this week so that’s probably why Musk is tweeting like a 12 year old role playing their vague concept of a bereft father.
photoshops
I assume you meant photoshoot…
Lioool yes I did
Country? You guys are going to start a world war.
It’s equally likely to devolve into civil war instead, in which case we contain the atrocities to the States
Yay
Agreed, but then amongst the vacuum Russia aims at Europe, China takes Taiwan, and off we go.
Europe needs to step the fuck up right now. Don’t they know that appeasement doesn’t work? Are they going to continue standing on the sidelines for years while Ukraine fights on their own?
They can also stop this war. Europe can take action. Lead the world while the US has its head up its own ass.
Europe does take action.
Also, Russia is in no state right now to start a military attack on Europe more than they already do right now (i.e., cutting undersea cables, troll farming and election manipulation etc.). Russia can’t handle Ukraine with half-assed support from Europe/US, how could they handle Ukraine plus the rest of Europe?
They (i.e., the Russian government) are a fucking joke and no threat to anyone.
You had me until last part. Belittling level of threat that Russia and its allies pose is not good. Not good at all. Belittling encourages apathy and sense of superiority, which we cant afford.
I recommend ”Autocracy, inc.” book from last year 2024 by Anne Applebaum (which won a pulitzer) to you, all americans, europeans and anyone who actually cares about democracy, human rights.
Sadly, Russia and its allies are no joke. They are a threat we must take seriously.
Thanks, I’ll check that out. My current perception of the issue is quite the opposite, though: Europe has been in a shock state, not knowing what to do, because they were scared of Russia. Nobody dared confronting them. Ukraine is one exception, and as it turned out, the Russian military (apart from their nukes of course) is a joke. Turkey did that a few years ago as well, when a Russian fighter jet entered their air space for a few seconds and they just shot it down.
My current reading of the situation is that the fear of Russia is more threatening than Russia’s actual power.
Ruzzia is one of Drumphs third world shitholes. Everyone squats over a latrine pit outside of Moscow and St Petersburg. They have the worst food in the world and all the men are addicted to anti-freeze vodka. The greatest cause of death is self immolation because the fuckers won’t stop smoking everywhere and even their own women loathe them because they’re all trying to marry western men. It’s a grey country full of corruption and racism. In the last 4 centuries they have had maybe half a dozen decent writers and musicians. And somehow, Pootang the Tiny thinks they need to export their “culture” LOL
fuck off, traditional Russian food is excellent. You just have the palate of a child.
It’s far from just the one man.
That’s absolutely true. I transitioned over a decade ago and have never had a problem until Republicans randomly decided that trans people were a target recently. A buddy of mine transitioned 35 years ago and he’s in absolute pieces over the state of the country right now. He was harassed just yesterday while taking a walk, because he’s out and proud in the neighborhood. I’m absolutely terrified to see how bad this will get.
Well, a piece of shit can become liquid shit, and liquid shit can become aerosolized. So, yes it’s possible for someone to be shittier than a piece of shit.
This has “Adam West trying to murder the ocean with a knife” vibes.
Is that something Adam West did in Family Guy, Batman, real life, or all of the above?
Family guy. He, as Mayor Adam West (?), tried to execute the ocean for killing people using “eye for an eye” logic.
He’ll never win. People who think like he does have repeatedly tried to kill ideas. They’ve always failed. Sure, he can make some major, sweeping changes, but ultimately he will fail.
WHY (Bang) WON’T (Bang) YOU (Bang) DIE!?! (click click click) Why won’t you die?!?
Because behind this mask Mr. McCready is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof!
How do you know they’ve always failed? BY DEFINITION if an idea has been killed you won’t know it existed.
His kid isn’t dead, she just doesn’t go by that name anymore, and it is supremely dickish to treat her like that.
It’s more than dickish. It’s bigoted, dehumanising, and oppressive.
well it depends on from where, the Shitass in question, sent it.
Is his obsession with the letter X just because it seemed like a cool letter at some point and he just refused to let it go like the doge meme? Or is there anything more to it?
What if we collectively start calling it V now?
He has trauma, something that is there but cannot be shown and cannot be directly named. My guess is that he is projecting all his trauma and all his hope into that letter. What would be a better letter? It’s a cross that marks things and it’s the preferred name for variables.
This post made me realize that Xavier is to Musk what Barron is to Trump. They both overloaded the name of their child with a name from their own history. It would be funny if Musk would also call himself Xavier, for example when wearing that French looking black coat.
It’s just a notion he clings to. He was told “X.com” was a stupid name that nobody thought was cool waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when and he’s absolutely fixed on “proving” that X is the coolest letter.
It’s a sans-serif swastika.
It may genuinely come down to that was the only single letter domain left. Like it could all be z bullshit but someone snagged that one first
Just another “serious adult” in the imperial core.
Literally nobody in my day-to-day life has ever warned me about or even used the term ‘woke mind virus’. It’s a fucking ridiculous notion pushed by ignorant, non-serious fakers. If anyone did say that to me in person, I’d laugh at their face then turn around and walk away laughing so hard i’d be looking for a hand rail or wall to balance myself. It’s too bad social media doesn’t allow for that level of humiliating interaction
Is the woke mind virus here with us in this room right now?
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Narcissism is a developmental delay of social emotional maturation
