• Legume5534@lemm.ee
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    If you didn’t vote then you were fine with this outcome. The majority are ok with Trump winning.

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      The fuck? I’m not fine with this outcome.

      I’m also not fine with the outcome of harris.

      Both suck, but what makes harris suck is that you people will think you’re winning because you’re losing slower. I refuse to fall in line because I will not support the idea that a slow loss is somehow a win.

      If you people want different results, run different candidates! Otherwise, “you are fine with this outcome.”

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        So, something worth thinking about:

        Had YOU people voted, you wouldn’t be here crying about a meme.

        Just saying.

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          Had you people nominated a better candidate, I would’ve voted.

          Just saying.

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            Had you people nominated a better candidate, I would’ve voted.

            “I wasn’t inspired enough to vote against fascism.” - Someone Who Is Totally Not A Fascist Enabler

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            Learn to think. All up and down this thread you’re coming out with the same illogical arguments that defy reality and contradict yourself. Maybe have a little think about why people are so cross with you and why trump and Putin are so pleased with your choices and your words.

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              I’m saying things you don’t want to accept and that go against your herd mentality. You intrinsically need to throw whatever shit at the wall to see what sticks to fit in with your peers.

              I don’t expect more from people like you and you just reinforce my decisions when you get mad at me instead of yourselves.

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                Maybe have a little think about why people are so cross with you

                “…herd mentality…” “…just reinforce my decisions…” “…throw shit at the wall…” “…people like you…”

                That’s a no, then. You’re absolutely not going to do any reflection. Everyone else is wrong except you. Got it.

                “why trump and Putin are so pleased with your choices and your words.”

                <tumbleweed>

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      I get downvoted every time I bring this up too. However, the voters saw January 6th and they saw the repeal of Roe V Wade. If that wasn’t enough to get your butt to vote then you’re fine with this.

      I still think big tech backed Trump because of Lina Khan. Well also the tax breaks. Urgh …

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        It’s not what they said.

        By not voting, you are complicit with whomever ends up on the White House, that could be someone you like (and obviously it is for probably a lot of people who didn’t vote) but assuming you were eligible and able, by not voting, the statement you effectively make is ‘I am ok with any option’

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            No, if you vote for Democrats, and they win, you are saying you voted for Democrats, this is simpler than you are making it.

            Not voting (when eligible and able) just means you are apathetic to the outcome.

            Saying ‘democrats bad’ isn’t some gotcha response to this concept. Voting for someone who goes against their constituent, is a bad person, or otherwise isn’t what you expected is not the same thing as not voting at all, nor is voting for someone with a slim chance of winning or voting for someone that the general population disagrees with. All of those are actions taken to have some stake in the process and they are conscious decisions to support a specific person or group.

            When you don’t vote, you implicitly support the winner, because by definition, you chose not to support anyone else, that’s just how the concept of voluntary voting works, it has nothing to do with the politics at play.

            I wasn’t saying you personally didn’t vote, I was speaking colloquially, using ‘you’ to refer to the subject of the discussion (a person who didn’t vote).

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                So you just didn’t read my comment where I addressed the fact that I am not claiming you didn’t vote, and instead you want to sling shit?

                I get the feeling that you don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to yell. I get it, but I won’t participate any longer.

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    Well the OG Nazis only got about 30% so I’d say he’s justified to a dictatorship

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    stop fucking deluding yourselves. that’s not how voting works. people who do not vote aren’t voting for other. they’re voting for whoever ends up winning the votes of those who did. that 36 percent said “i don’t care who wins, I’m fine with either”. that is a vote for him.

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    Americans should finally demand a not so stupid voting system
    And maybe have 7 presidents

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    Both times Trump won was when a woman was running against him. The only time he lost was to a white old man.

    USA is just sexist and Americans better come to terms with it rather than making up random reasons.

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    This is true of every election except maybe one.

    Nobody always wins. The “winner” is always elected by a tiny minority. It’s a fundamentally corrupt system. Always has been. Literally concocted by genocidal slavers.

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    Hi, OP. I just want to let you know that I appreciate the sentiment you’re trying to express in this meme, but I also kinda low-key hate you for:

    1. using a title that sullies the good name of Maxwell Smart by making me associate his catch-phrase with Trump, and
    2. using an ellipsis to weakly trail off when you should’ve used an exclamation point to finish strong instead.
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    Either way. Americans have done nothing to change their electoral process.

    First Past The Post in this age?

    No Universal Civic Duty voting in this age?

    This is a product of American inaction. And their insistence that their system is the best despite it being considered archaic and prone to manipulation by other modern democracies.

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    “my vote won’t change anything”, “i don’t like any of them”, “that won’t affect me”, call leopards for those 36%

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    It’s so fucking infuriating that practically every election, if it were possible, “did not vote” would win the presidency.

    We’re always looking at some stupidly close, razor margins bullshit, when there’s a MASSIVE group of people that unfortunately just couldn’t possibly give a shit less…

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      I vote that if “did not vote” wins, that means “nobody” wins, and therefore “nobody” is president for 4y, try again next time.

      I also vote that we as a country take a que from Talkeetna, AK. We should elect a cat president, if one can be mayor why not? And a cat will do better than any human I’ve met, so…

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      That’s the point. It’s important these people think that each election is between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

      It’s why Bernie wasn’t allowed to win any primaries.

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        Last elections were between stale bread with wilted lettuce and a turd sandwich covered in diarrhea with lead flakes and pube sprinkles.

        And millions of Americans still think they’re the same. I guess sabotaging education for 50 years really works.

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    Those who didn’t vote, who thought their vote didn’t matter, that no matter which politician gets elected to whatever office… they’re complicit.

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      The only significantly statically impactful group of “non voters” is the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.

      Meaning the major majority of voters that didn’t vote were either unable to because of other obligations (work, childcare, etc) with a small subset of that being people that were no motivated enough to deal with the inconvenience of visiting a poll line (4hours in line) after a 10 hour shift.

      These are the vast vast majority of people that did not show up. Beyond that an even smaller percentage was the "protest voters’ that even if 100% of which went to Harris she still would have lost.

      I guess I just want to say “in conclusion” that the vast majority of voters that didn’t vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

      I think we should spend less time blaming voters and more time being critical of the politicians and party that gives zero reason for the working class to “risk” their shift for.

      No one’s gonna “risk a shift” for the policies and messaging that Harris communicated. You don’t get people to “risk their shift” for voting for a lesser evil.

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        I guess I just want to say “in conclusion” that the vast majority of voters that didn’t vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

        This is a very clear and succinct description of something I’ve been struggling to articulate for years. Affluent liberals can tell their boss they’re taking a long lunch to vote, and they don’t understand why shift workers don’t do the same.

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        the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.

        Voting early or by mail was available to:

        -Alaska
        -Arizona
        -Arkansas
        -California: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Colorado: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -D.C.: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Delaware
        -Florida
        -Georgia
        -Hawaii: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Idaho
        -Illinois
        -Iowa
        -Kansas
        -Maine
        -Maryland
        -Massachusetts
        -Michigan
        -Minnesota
        -Montana
        -Nebraska
        -Nevada: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -New Jersey
        -New Mexico
        -New York
        -North Carolina
        -North Dakota
        -Ohio
        -Oklahoma
        -Oregon: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Pennsylvania
        -Rhode Island
        -South Dakota
        -Utah: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Vermont: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Virginia
        -Washington: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
        -Wisconsin
        -Wyoming

        I’m not saying people don’t have tough lives, but it has been made pretty available to a lot of people at this point.

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        Other countries vote on Sundays, US could do the same.

        Also mail in voting exists.

        But yes, big brain move to not vote or vote some third party.

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        Sometimes i get the feeling that voting on a tuesday is working as expected: to keep working an poor people from voting…

        Germany has voting per defintion only on sundays, and (at least where i live) the voting booths are everywhere. You can vote either per mail, or from 8:00 to 18:00 at a booth, and i never had to wait in a line to vote, and i’m in my 40s

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      Or suppressed. I’ll give some anecdotal examples. I have a friend that lives in a major metropolitan area with over 2.6 million people. When he applied to get a photo ID (he lost his previous one and needed a new one), the soonest appointment available for the entire metropolitan area was 3 months out. That’s just for the appointment to apply for the ID, not actually receiving the ID. You are required to have a photo ID to vote. Then, voter registration in itself must also be completed at least a month before an election. Now, let’s talk about the process of actually voting. I’ve personally stood in line for over 6 hours to vote. A lot of the people waiting in line had to leave to pick up their kids and other things. If you don’t pick up your kids from school or daycare at very specific times, there are serious penalties. While I was waiting, there must have been at least 40 people in front of me that had to leave before voting. Many of them had waited in line for over 4 hours. For most people, waiting in line is the only way to vote. Only the elderly and disabled qualify to vote by mail. Make no mistake, voter suppression is very effective, and it is implemented specifically in areas that vote against what the ruling party wants. In Trump leaning areas, the lines were no longer than a two minute wait if they existed at all. Trump never would have won either election if it wasn’t for voter suppression.

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      The most complicit are the genocidal wackos who nominated a cop/prosecutor that campaigned to the cheyneys.

      Nobody should be shamed into voting for trash.

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      I voted, and my vote definitely did not matter. Nor will it until we completely overhaul the election system, getting rid of the electoral college and first past the post. I don’t think that’s going to happen either until politicians acquire enough fear to offset their greed.

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      You lot never blame the dem leadership for making their biggest funder AIPAC, and allowing AIPAC funding to completely steer the party platform. Somehow those dem leaders are simply immune from blame, even when AIPAC steers this outcome straight to a loss and Israelis said they never wanted the dems to win anyway. The dems losing was much more desirable to AIPAC than a non genocide dem winning. The polls told dem leadership they were going to lose for months and they decided to take the loss rather than give in to the no-to-genocide voters AIPAC was more important to them. Why do you still imagine that they support dems or care about America? You’ve learned nothing and you’re on the way to lose some more.

      For my vote, I wasnt going to lift a finger for any genocider, even if it meant this country burned itself to the ground. If the choice is murder lots of innocents or burn this place to the ground, I chose not to participate and let burn this place to the ground, and I’ll do it again if needed-- so will lots of other people – and theres nothing you can do about it. So “blame” me on the internet all day, your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer. I hope every dem leader gets fired, and if it leads to revolution or “regime change” as we like to casually say it when its other countries suffering, then so be it. Its past time for this farce to “fundamentally change”.