Post had nothing to do with murder or violence. It is clear who reddit serves.
They’re scared of anything that challenges their position even subtly. So they remove posts like this to avoid questioning the narrative. Hopefully their efforts will backfire with the Streisand effect.
Removing billionaires is self defense, don’t let anyone tell you different. They commit acts of gross violence on the general populace every single day. It’s time to re-balance the scales.
Yeah, the existence of billionaires requires violence be perpetrated upon entire groups of people.
#killbill
The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.
Max Stirner
I mean. I would never do something like this. And I don’t condone it. But people are free to do with their lives what they want. We have guns to fight tyranny.
Now that I’m no longer on Reddit, I feel that I can finally speak my mind.
The only way we will be able to get rid of the billionaires is if we drag them out of their mansions by their hair and stick them into a guillotine. We need to face that they are too powerful for the law to take care of, and I doubt they will let themselves be taxed out of their riches. The only way to get rid of the dragon is to decapitate it.
They’re immune to laws. They’re immune to protests. Their money is untouchable. But they’re touchable. Nobody is immune to ballistics. Nobody really wants to open box number four but I fear we are there.
Hear hear. Hate to quote Dorito Mussolini, but “he who saves the world breaks no laws.”
Yeah, it was real nice of him to point that out for the rest of us 😀
I mean, its true. The American Revolutionaries were committing treason until they won against the British.
If you win, your new judicial system would legalized everything you did.
Case in point, the richest one is currently dismantling the world’s most powerful government from the inside, with impunity
Whatever your opinion on the topic, posting this kind of thing to social media is a dumb move.
You think that law enforcement, billionaires and their security are not aware of social media and how to monitor and manipulate it?
You’re just making yourself, and everyone talking about this, a target and increasing the chance that someone kicks down your door, if you’re lucky it’s only the police.
The reason that mods remove these comments isn’t because they’re licking the corporate boot. If you let people plan violence at your house then you’re part of it. If you let people plan violence on your servers, then you’re part of it. That isn’t even going into the morality of what you’re suggesting.
Nobody should engage with this and it should be removed. Nothing good will come to you for going down this path.
It is because Spez is a corporate shill taking that sweet sweet Russian oligarch and Chinese investor money while he bleeds users and data.
Peter Thiel is an American oligarch. He has funded reddit from the beginning. Then later on Andreessen and Altman.
Which Russian oligarchs fund reddit? And I very much doubt the 3 hundred million from Tencent holds much sway considering how virulently anti-China reddit is.
Honestly: leave Reddit to the bots.
Anyone who is still there after all the bullshit, well, I would argue that either they’re oblivious, or some kind of bootlicker, either way, we are probably better off without them.
On an unrelated note, I hope Luigi gets Justice. I mean, he won’t, but… I can hope.
The just outcome for Luigi is to acquit him. He acted in the best interest of the people. He was protecting and serving the people. He’s a better enforcement officer than any LEO I’ve ever met.
Best of all, he wasn’t tasked with doing it. Nobody asked him to, nor did anyone pay him for his efforts. He’s a hero of the people. IMO, his actions, while extreme, are on par with someone who saves a person from a burning car, or picks up a victim and drives them to the hospital so they can get to the care they need more quickly. Luigi just did it on a much broader scale. Here’s this guy that’s preventing people from getting to the care they need. He’s like a bouncer for a hospital. So when an injured patent rolls up and the bouncer says “no” to providing care, it’s reasonable to remove that bouncer by any means necessary to save the people that he’s blocking from getting the care they need.
Yes, he used methods that are unconventional. Yes, he probably shouldn’t have. The outcome is the same. He moved the needle towards good.
While I can sympathize with those that lost their father/brother/husband/son/etc. I can’t sympathize with the man that was removed from blocking critical care to those who needed it, paid for it, and wanted it.
Anyone in charge at any US insurance company: they’re is blood on your hands. Do the right thing, or Luigi won’t be the last martyr to go down for the good of the people.
I fuckin hate that people use Luigi’s picture for causes he wasn’t (allegedly) explicitly championing even when I agree with them.
Quit making Luigi Mangione your mascot.
Thats why this post was interesting. It had nothing to do with luigi or violence but they removed it anyways.
Why?
I think it’s shitty to put words in people’s mouths.
Why do you think that’s a good thing to do?
Im not saying it is or isn’t, but was curious in your reasoning. One reason it might be justifiable is if it could help bring about some change.
This isn’t the first time I’ve been downvoted for expressing that opinion and have yet to see a reason for why everyone seems to be OK with putting words in his mouth. It’s especially dumb on this meme because he’s not “once again” asking anything. He literally never brought it up once.
He’s a human being, not a mascot.
Mate, calm down. It’s a reference to the Bernie Sanders meme:
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/224015000/Bernie-Sanders-Once-Again-Asking
Stfu
You should feel bad for being this awful at trolling
I’m not religious, but if there IS a god, he has to make luigi be found not guilty.
he might be Jesus
in that case, I hope it’s jesus’s second coming.
If he is found not guilty and leads a resistance to take over Trump’s gov, then I’ll believe in god again.
NGL if ya’lls ability to make rational appeals inherently relies on Luigi Mangione worship then you’re going to have a very difficult time just in general.
Even just using the un-photo-shopped Bernie Sanders original could swing the bias almost 50% in your favor when approaching the general public with your ideals.
Everybody loves Bernie. Only 18% approve of what Luigi did.
After all these years, people still don’t understand echo chambers.
Echo chambers are fine, as long as you don’t think they are reality and act accordingly. I am annoyed by willful ignorance, so I purposefully avoid becoming friends with willfully ignorant people. But, I remember that they exist and when they come after marginalized people, I am not afraid to engage them.
Yeah but few people seem to have this ability. I’m not sure its human nature. People tend to uncritically accept the opinions and statements of their peers as fact.
Maybe you are exceptional and this doesn’t apply but I tend to think it applies to everyone to some extent.
I’m not exceptional. I’m the same piece of shit as everyone else 😂 you’re right though, it doesn’t hurt to remind people to be cautious of them.
Yeah part of me wants to think I am immune but I think that’s my cognitive bias at work. But I do think I’m more skeptical than the average person, even if I’m not completely immune. People who think about and recognize these issues might have an extra layer of defense, if imperfect.
you actually can be pretty close to immune, vaccinated you might say, through meditation. you become very aware of how your thoughts arise, and how they really are not you. and the difference between thoughts and thinking.
the ol’ “try to think of what your next thought will be, and you won’t be able to” thing. But, sounds like you’ve already been practicing some self-awareness.
In your link below, 18% only includes “strong positive”. Why exclude “somewhat positive”?
Why exclude “somewhat positive”?
Because they’re making their argument in bad faith, or they stopped after getting the part they wanted and didn’t bother looking any further.
Who is ‘they’? The ‘somewhat positive’ people are bad faith, or finitebanjo is bad faith?
finitebanjo has some pretty obvious ‘lying with statistics’ vibes. He said only 18% approved of Luigi’s actions when I can say only 41% view Luigi’s actions as negative. They were just cherry picking some stats.
Ah yes. The vibes. Always reliable. Except it’s actually 61% negative. Should I accuse you of lying now?
You are adding ‘not sure’ as a negative. I didn’t. That’s why statistics are so much fun.
No I’m not.
The difference is I don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
Read the survey again. We are talking about the full population, not only young people.
finitebanjo
This one. Sorry for the confusion.
It’s actually 19%, including both levels of support. Reading is hard for people I guess.
And for the record, 61% held a negative view. So OP is completely correct here.
Ah, you are right regarding the full dataset. Thank you.
It’s strange that they start off with, and seem to focus on, the under-45 respondents unless they were trying to push a positive-viewpoint message. For that age group, it was 31% positive and 41% negative. However, this group seems like a better fit for the Lemmy/Reddit audience. Furthermore, left-leaning voters appear to be more positive in this poll than their right-leaning counterparts.
With all that in mind, I still think this meme works well and wouldn’t have been improved with Bernie.
I just want people to understand that just because many people on Lemmy love Luigi doesn’t mean there’s some secret silent majority in real life that does too. Most people don’t want to see people shot down in the streets, regardless of who they are. It makes them feel like they or their family might be next.
I think they framed the story that way because to boomers the level of support among younger people is the most shocking thing about this poll. To those of us in that demographic it seems a strange way to do it because that’s just how it is for us, so it’s not that noteworthy.
Last numbers I saw in that kinda world, where very much higher then 18% not sure where you are pulling that figure from?
The poll which came out on December 13th 2024
I dunno, that poll reads very much in favor of Luigi. The fact that a poll needs to be run in the first place for an act like this. To me anything that’s not strongly against this is showing some sort of support.
If anything it shows that less than half disapprove of Luigi’s actions. Only 41% have a negative view of his actions.
Aren’t statistics fun?
That’s some insane mental gymnastics you have there…
All luigi supporters are like that, it seems.
I guess most of his supporters are far left genocidal maniacs and alt Nazis, so no wonder.
What kind of retarded shit is this?
Yeah, that link shows 31%, not 18%. Nearly a third of those polled have a positive approval of Luigi.
61% of people actively oppose him, it definitely works as strong supporting argument against using his image to promote your ideals.
Exactly. People reading this poll should remember that the baseline percentage of your average respondent on whether “murder in cold blood” is justified is “super duper strong disagree”
We’re dealing with the same idiots that think they can squash dissent by no longer allowing questions on company town halls. Doing literally anything continues to frustrate the fuck out of them as they realize they don’t have a paycheck to wave at us to keep us quiet. But, yes, anyone willing to a little heavier lifting is always welcome.
What are you even trying to express here? That’s just childish phrases glued together.
The people it is meant for know what it means. If you don’t, you’re either out of scope, or my enemy.
I so hope the jury finds him innocent. Undo past wrong doings (such as casey anthony or OJ etc)
wasnt his arrest kinda botched, well see how the prosecutor convinces the jury to ignore that part of the trial.
Yeah we know, wtf am I supposed to do about it?
You probably do more than you think. They control the flow of information because they know how dangerous an informed public would be to their interest (in keeping us in chains). If everyone understood how bad they’re getting fucked, there wouldn’t be anything left to do, the people would burn it all down.
lol Americans can’t even be bothered to get off the couch to get out and vote to save their country, they ain’t burning nothing down
Do you think that is by design or by choice? Do you have any idea the amount of propaganda the average American receives? Be a man and blame the actual bad actors: the transnational uber wealthy. Though, that might mean you’d be required to do something yourself, other than the super-useful finger pointing you’re currently doing.
How is bitching about the problem On Lemmy any more of a solution? You’re literally doing nothing. I’m a Canadian, im doing my job by avoiding your products and boycotting anything American. You’re just yelling at Lemmy users
Yes, that’s my whole life, the one part you can see. Damn, you got me.
Apparently, just showing an image of the guy they are pinning the crime on is violence in and of itself. 🤷🏻♂️
He’s just too hot. You must be 18+ to view this sexy, sexy picture 🔞🔞🔞🥵🥵🥵
It’s NSFW in 2 different ways
deposing ceos is arguably sfw
This reminded me that I’m still watching some subs through still existing mirrors like undelete so I don’t give reddit views, and I noticed that a big 21k upvoted post on subredditdrama about /r/conservative starting to panic over whether trump even knows what he’s doing was deleted. All I can imagine for why it was deleted was intervention because of this rule, I couldn’t find a mod post on it, it might have been admin intervention.
We’re allowed to discuss all forms of revolution, so long as they are ineffective.
So if you want to know how to stage a successful revolution, consider what you’re not allowed to say as the starting point. And take a look at how the CIA overthrows governments- it ain’t peaceful.
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Am I gonna get banned for upvoting this?
The number of peaceful revolutions we can unfortunately count on one hand. We can strive for to -but we have to be realistic
However there also has to be a plan. Simply overthrowing the existing rule allows chaos & someone worse to assume power
The old rule has already been overthrown. By Trump, far right white Christian nationalists, and silicon valley. Unfortunately, it’s being replaced with something way worse.
yea, like what is currently happening is a “non-violent” coup. They used anger, mass disinformation and propaganda.
Russ voight literally said their coup would be as bloodless as democrats allowed
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Still non violent. As fucked as it is, there has been very little violence. Maybe some crazies at protests. Compare that to other revolutions it’s almost nothing.
I would rather have the violence. Maybe then there would be movement to stop it.
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Yes, I know - but the revolution is happening because people are angry and they believe the system is broken.
I’m all for a short return to normalcy if actual change follows.
If actual change does not follow, I promise you we will be right back in this position before you know it.
I completely agree that what’s coming is worse. But if you don’t have a plan, the ensuing chaos is EXACTLY what Silicon Valley is hoping for so they can grab power. They have said it out loud.
Something has to be done by someone otherwise we’re all fucked.
I am not sure I agree that the old rule was replaced. Before, the oligarchs ruled from the shadows by controlling political campaign finances and lobbyists. But now, the oligarchs are so powerful they are ruling directly. The country is still heading in the same direction (relentless growth of power disparity between the rich and power) just at a quicker pace.
FDR was the last US president that fought for the working class. Every President since Reagan has overseen policies that have weakened the working class and transfered power to the rich. Republicans were far more aggressive about it, but liberals still did it at a slower rate.
‘We can’t overthrow Hitler, because someone worse could come in to take his place.’
No one said that. As the others pointed out, I’m saying have a plan.
The go-to example is the French Revolution. There was no plan for after they eliminated the “bad guys,” and they ended up executing mostly non-rich folk. Saw a stat elsewhere that it may have been as few as 20% of victims were the rich.
Do we really want 80% of the people hurt by a revolution to be the common folk? If that’s what you wanted you might as well stick with the current status quo. You’re getting it.
I’m not going to argue further with you as the others have already done so well enough. I am only saying: have a plan, or things very well could go even worse
We already have plenty of socialist/communist revolution examples to follow.
No, you do not need to strategize before removing the boot from your neck.
That’s not what they said though
Same logic.
No, they just said there needs to be a plan. It’s not the same logic at all.
Ok. I guess evil can be permitted to run rampant while we work out a plan.
Well then, by that logic, let’s just nuke the entire planet today! Argue in good faith please.
Not only that, but without a plan you won’t even be able to get close to overthrowing any half-competent regime.
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They’ll post this on a news subreddit where they all consume said media daily and see zero irony.
I literally rage quit reddit over this. Hence why am on Lemmy now. Hopefully we can draw more users from Reddit over here. Esp with the boycott of all things US.
Welcome! I migrated when the old Reddit apps stopped working, and the grass is indeed greener on this side, except for the non-English communities.
you would probably banned eventually anyways, since luigi is enough to have you banned. i was banned a few weeks before this for some other stupid reason. apparently people were getting banned anyway after temp ban is lifted.
