protip: there is no russian kompramat. never was. it’s headline grabbing laziness. donald trump was born a nyc construction scion raised equally in both the kkk and mafia. trump perfers russian strongmen and fascists, he thinks democracy is weak and worthless. there’s no gotcha. trump does what he wants because it pleases him. that it. this was always the fight. if the million dead from a purposefully inept covid response didn’t tell you that last time, i don’t know if there anything anyone can say. in a free, fair, and safe (last?) election young democrats couldn’t be bothered to cast a ballot for the continuation of democracy, and so we get fascist disassembly instead
It’d oddly coincidental that it always happens to please Putin too. Also go back to that Helsinki meeting and look at the body language. Trump’s is a display of cringing submissiveness that is not consistent with it just being an alignment of interest. Trump is shit-scared of Putin for some reason, kompromat or not.
There is no kompramat that’s been proven, however Trump is very happy to take Russian money to further Russian interests. It’s the same with the Saudis and Israelis. The US government is for sale.
“The context for this footnote comes from a discussion of the conversation Trump had with Comey during the presidential transition about the Steele dossier, the original source of the pee tape allegations. According to Steele’s dossier, a source alleged that Russians had a tape of compromising material from a 2013 trip to Moscow in which Trump watched prostitutes engage in sexual acts. One part of that sexual encounter allegedly included “golden showers.” Comey would say later that Trump had become obsessed with the sexual allegations in the Steele dossier, despite those allegations being not the criminally incriminating ones, and raised it “at least four times” with the then head of the FBI.”
The narrative was that trump might turn on putin, because Russia is doing terribly on the war front. That seemed possible, but Trump is so easily influenced he bought in to the Russian propaganda the second Putin talked to him.
Trump turns on everybody, but he’s never turned on Putin. I don’t think there was ever a possibility Trump was going to go against Russia, the source of that was probably people around Trump who are less subservient to Putin.
My theory (and not just mine) is that, in the 80s, Trump ratted out the NY mafia to SDNY, and that’s why he was protected from prosecution for his many crimes after that. The collapse of Gotti and co. led to the Russian mob getting much more power.
I’ll blame the voters every time. Not just this election. It’s the yearly elections, the local ones that cover local and state elections. The not showing up has allowed the long game of the republicans who are good at getting people to show up. This is on the regular of people “not paying attention to politics.” And them voting local is what pushes the upper. How do you think Trump took over the party?
I was pretty astounded to learn a significant number of Muslims voted for the guy who clearly did not want Muslims entering the county last time around, because they were told Democrats were continuing to arm Israel and thus supported Israel. Which is somewhat true, but because everyone thinks in black and white terms, they decided to believe that “Trump wants to make peace” meant he was going to get everyone to stand down, when the reality is that Trump doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians any more than he ever did, and peace to him means getting rid of the Muslims and turning Gaza into a resort for Israelis.
I was pretty astounded to learn a significant number of Muslims voted for the guy
The stories were mainly about Arab-Americans, a narrow majority of whom are Christian (Maronite, Orthodox and Coptic). And the majority of Muslim-Americans have little to no connection or solidarity with the Palestinians.
But the press is too lazy to pick up on these nuances, just as it never reports on the Israelis’ relentless attacks on Palestinian Christians. The media narrative is Israelis versus Muslims, and that’s all you hear about.
Yes and, better candidates get more voters. The DNC did not address rising costs when they had the most power to do so. They didn’t run primaries even though a very unpopular incumbent was not doing well in press conferences months before the debates. Then when they did offer up another candidate they did not differentiate themselves from the unpopular policies of the incumbent.
Kamala 100% addressed rising costs by saying we needed to outlaw price gouging on groceries. That Medicaid should cover in-home care. By giving tax credits for children. By giving tax credits for home ownership and starting a new business.
She addressed this a lot and had a lot of things she wanted to do to curb it. I’m tired of that talking point. Shows how little people paid attention.
Yeah, we didn’t get proper primaries. It sucks
I’m still blaming the people who stayed at home or voted third party just as much as I’m blaming maga.
Ignorant, self absorbed citizens who don’t care who gets hurt if they don’t get what they want.
I understand you feel that way. I agree that the market would be more stable, ICE would not be doing mass deportations, Musk wouldn’t be the idiotic agent of chaos destroying needed programs, and things as a whole would be better if Harris were in office. However the DNC dropped the ball.
Either way you need to be upset at the DNC. It’s their job to get the vote and package the candidates and start outreach. That did not happen in 2024.
Edit: Kamala did nothing to whip up votes in the Senate, where the VP holds considerable sway, especially with a Democratic majority, to pass a bill about price gouging and corporate greed. It was a measured campaign trail response to Trump and the right bleeting about gasoline prices and food prices…that increased during Trump’s last presidency. If they cared they wouldn’t have kept saying GDP is good so you must be good. They would’ve passed something. They didn’t.
protip: there is no russian kompramat. never was. it’s headline grabbing laziness. donald trump was born a nyc construction scion raised equally in both the kkk and mafia. trump perfers russian strongmen and fascists, he thinks democracy is weak and worthless. there’s no gotcha. trump does what he wants because it pleases him. that it. this was always the fight. if the million dead from a purposefully inept covid response didn’t tell you that last time, i don’t know if there anything anyone can say. in a free, fair, and safe (last?) election young democrats couldn’t be bothered to cast a ballot for the continuation of democracy, and so we get fascist disassembly instead
It’d oddly coincidental that it always happens to please Putin too. Also go back to that Helsinki meeting and look at the body language. Trump’s is a display of cringing submissiveness that is not consistent with it just being an alignment of interest. Trump is shit-scared of Putin for some reason, kompromat or not.
There is no kompramat that’s been proven, however Trump is very happy to take Russian money to further Russian interests. It’s the same with the Saudis and Israelis. The US government is for sale.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-received-78-million-payments-foreign-governments-president-repor-rcna132276
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-countries-made-payments-donald-trump-during-presidency-1858008
Because it hasn’t been released.
“The context for this footnote comes from a discussion of the conversation Trump had with Comey during the presidential transition about the Steele dossier, the original source of the pee tape allegations. According to Steele’s dossier, a source alleged that Russians had a tape of compromising material from a 2013 trip to Moscow in which Trump watched prostitutes engage in sexual acts. One part of that sexual encounter allegedly included “golden showers.” Comey would say later that Trump had become obsessed with the sexual allegations in the Steele dossier, despite those allegations being not the criminally incriminating ones, and raised it “at least four times” with the then head of the FBI.”
i.e there may be kompramat but we do not know. Likely we will never know. However, we do know Trump is for sale to the highest bidder.
The narrative was that trump might turn on putin, because Russia is doing terribly on the war front. That seemed possible, but Trump is so easily influenced he bought in to the Russian propaganda the second Putin talked to him.
Trump turns on everybody, but he’s never turned on Putin. I don’t think there was ever a possibility Trump was going to go against Russia, the source of that was probably people around Trump who are less subservient to Putin.
there’s a good documentary about trump’s ny shit on yt that’s easy to find that’s all about this
My theory (and not just mine) is that, in the 80s, Trump ratted out the NY mafia to SDNY, and that’s why he was protected from prosecution for his many crimes after that. The collapse of Gotti and co. led to the Russian mob getting much more power.
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I’ll blame the voters every time. Not just this election. It’s the yearly elections, the local ones that cover local and state elections. The not showing up has allowed the long game of the republicans who are good at getting people to show up. This is on the regular of people “not paying attention to politics.” And them voting local is what pushes the upper. How do you think Trump took over the party?
So yes, gonna blame the voters.
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Yeah, I hate responses like this. You’re in the heart of the empire, you ain’t getting to choose between Clark Kent and Lex Luthor.
There was only two outcomes and it was our job to pick the less shitty outcome.
End of story.
Americans really are still pushing this hyper-exceptionalism narrative to try and blame the Dems
This was a group effort. The third party voters and the people who stayed at home have just as much blame for this crap.
They need to own their shit and realize that you don’t always get what you want, sometimes you have to do what you can with what you have.
Murica
I was pretty astounded to learn a significant number of Muslims voted for the guy who clearly did not want Muslims entering the county last time around, because they were told Democrats were continuing to arm Israel and thus supported Israel. Which is somewhat true, but because everyone thinks in black and white terms, they decided to believe that “Trump wants to make peace” meant he was going to get everyone to stand down, when the reality is that Trump doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians any more than he ever did, and peace to him means getting rid of the Muslims and turning Gaza into a resort for Israelis.
The stories were mainly about Arab-Americans, a narrow majority of whom are Christian (Maronite, Orthodox and Coptic). And the majority of Muslim-Americans have little to no connection or solidarity with the Palestinians.
But the press is too lazy to pick up on these nuances, just as it never reports on the Israelis’ relentless attacks on Palestinian Christians. The media narrative is Israelis versus Muslims, and that’s all you hear about.
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It’s not a zero-sum blame-game. We can be angry at both.
Yes and, better candidates get more voters. The DNC did not address rising costs when they had the most power to do so. They didn’t run primaries even though a very unpopular incumbent was not doing well in press conferences months before the debates. Then when they did offer up another candidate they did not differentiate themselves from the unpopular policies of the incumbent.
It was so frustrating to watch.
And at the end of it, the people who just wanted complicit silence from a fed up electorate will blame everyone who was unhappy.
It’s happening here in this thread even…a tale as old as democracy itself.
Kamala 100% addressed rising costs by saying we needed to outlaw price gouging on groceries. That Medicaid should cover in-home care. By giving tax credits for children. By giving tax credits for home ownership and starting a new business.
She addressed this a lot and had a lot of things she wanted to do to curb it. I’m tired of that talking point. Shows how little people paid attention.
Yeah, we didn’t get proper primaries. It sucks
I’m still blaming the people who stayed at home or voted third party just as much as I’m blaming maga.
Ignorant, self absorbed citizens who don’t care who gets hurt if they don’t get what they want.
Over it.
I understand you feel that way. I agree that the market would be more stable, ICE would not be doing mass deportations, Musk wouldn’t be the idiotic agent of chaos destroying needed programs, and things as a whole would be better if Harris were in office. However the DNC dropped the ball.
Either way you need to be upset at the DNC. It’s their job to get the vote and package the candidates and start outreach. That did not happen in 2024.
https://www.ft.com/content/7085cb60-6b19-49f6-821b-2fde19f980a6
https://news.gallup.com/poll/655298/biden-job-approval-second-lowest-among-post-wwii-presidents.aspx
https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/383397/economy-inflation-2024-election-democrats-trump
Edit: Kamala did nothing to whip up votes in the Senate, where the VP holds considerable sway, especially with a Democratic majority, to pass a bill about price gouging and corporate greed. It was a measured campaign trail response to Trump and the right bleeting about gasoline prices and food prices…that increased during Trump’s last presidency. If they cared they wouldn’t have kept saying GDP is good so you must be good. They would’ve passed something. They didn’t.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-14/democrats-still-dont-get-it-heres-why-they-lost
So now under Trump we have skyrocketing prices again. And due to Musk’s influence in the cabinet we’re barreling towards a recession again.
https://www.theverge.com/elon-musk/617427/musk-trump-doge-recession-unemployment
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