Legit 0 IQ take, holy shit
I am absolutely disgusted by this. Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.
You may have different opinions from me about the third party voters and the culpability they carry, but I hope we all can agree that Jason Call and company here are blatantly evil and have blood on their hands.
Hoping this can be a moment of reactionary leftist unity. Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA. I’m doing my best to organize and do damage control, but not because some dumbass Jill Stein employee told me to. You should too.
I don’t know anything about the Green party except that they exist and always run for president. Are they actually big enough to have made a difference in the election? I’ve always seen them as a meme nobody takes seriously.
If every vote cast for Stein in ‘24 had gone to Harris instead the outcome would not have changed.
Personally, my outrage is at the leaders here—at the Green party admitting their goal was to elect Trump and the Democratic party refusing to give a platform people would vote for.
honestly, I have this nagging feeling that stein only runs to deliberately split the democratic vote. she knows exactly trumps position on Gaza, facism and capitalism. and she looks the other way either for personal gain, or because she supports trumps positions
She has been to many GOP backed events. It has been known for quite a while that she is run as a spoiler.
i don’t thing it has to be a nagging feeling even :/ i think this tweet basically proves it
i mean he basically says “yeah we did this so trump would win”
like yeah it’s with veiled language but only about as veiled as musk’s “my heart goes out to you”
If you have this feeling then you should be working to replace First-past-the-post voting in your state so splitting the vote isn’t a possibility.
Yes, BUT that’s not where we are yet. And until that’s where we are, and until the electoral college is also some kind of ranked-choice, it’s profoundly immoral to influence people to vote in a way that will cause more harm and suffering.
That’s exactly what she does. She’s a Russian plant who runs for president every four years despite not seeking any other political office.
Fuck every leader who actively worked towards MAGA.
That includes Biden and Harris, because they prioritized the genocide over beating trump
Basically they are saying they intentionally and knowingly manipulated Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinians into allowing a Trump victory and the doubling up of the growing threat of a trans, queer and POC genocide among much more violence.
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I’m not sure where you got all of that info. The tweet and article I read mentions none of what you listed him admitting to saying.
I point this out not because I agree with him; I don’t. I point it out because these types of responses are misinformation, plain and simple. And we have enough of that from everyone else.
We are to be held to a higher standard.
for sure dude
It is not remotely misinformation.
Your comment is by suggesting otherwise. If the Green party in the US were actually a serious party, they would be involved in more than just the presidential election.
So please. Stop spreading lies that the Green party is anything but what they are. Stop pretending they didn’t contribute to the rise of fascism. Stop pretending they didn’t contribute to a Trump win.
And most of all, don’t pretend that they didn’t know Trump would go all in on genocide.
I’m not referring to the Green Party. I’m referring to the commenter above me and I quoted the part of their comment that I’m referring to as misinformation.
That they are stating in direct reference to the Green Party.
Stop spreading this misinformation, greens hold more offices than all other third parties combined in the US.
There is not one member of the green party holding a federal office.
There is not one member of the green party currently holding a state office.
It is not misinformation.
Correct, however there’s more than a hundred in local offices. You people always say of they were serious they’d start from the bottom, grass roots. They’ve been doing that. Your post is misinformation created by your billionaire owners to dissuade any effective organizing in any way that would hurt them.
Utter and complete nonsense.
They haven’t been doing it at all. They put all the money into the presidential election - which they can’t win - blatantly, and by their own admission across multiple years to take away from democrats.
They are a spoiler party. Thats it.
I have stated nothing but facts, and your response is “but billionaires exist” - what in the wild wild west are you even saying?
Complete nonsensical garbage. Not interested. Goodbye.
“More than a hundred?” “In local offices?” Sweet! We’ve got over one hundred Green Party comptrollers! We’re saved!
What the actual fuck.
We intentionally picked the worst thing because it’s the only way to burn civilization to the ground!
Yeah. I just can’t with this fucking timeline.
capitalism is not civilization.
but it sure will take civilization with it on the way out
not if we are organized outside of it
When’s that going to happen? Why has no one organized it? Are you going to?
I organize locally.
You organize locally to end capitalism?
How has that worked out for you so far?
we arent.
just once I would like to hear any of you chucklefucks tell me how exactly you’re going to make any of this work with all the willfully dumb and eagerly violent people who exist in the country we have right now. it takes decades to change a people, and we have been changed. you don’t have the ability, the time, the resources, or the know how to change us again, now or in the future.
Give up then if that’s how you feel. I’ve been beating the drum for electoral reform years and years, yet no one seems interested. I don’t care if no one listens anymore, this drum will get smashed till someone takes it away.
The mask is slipping.
The masks are off. Fucking fascist racist pieces of shit
I can only interpret this message as accelerationist self-hatred. “No you don’t get it, we need to burn the country to the ground and have millions die to make our anticapitalist woo woo utopia!”
I guess it makes sense if you’re a Russian asset.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Least purity-testing leftist
A row of clown emojis is the only appropriate response.
https://lemmy.ml/post/25756796?scrollToComments=true
The Harris campaign didn’t want my vote so I didn’t give it to them. The Harris campaign was fine with losing as long as the genocide could continue.
The genocide was more important to them than beating trump. Think about that before you tell me I should’ve voted blue.
I’d take that as a confession to being complicit whenever we get to the US equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.
Well, Nuremberg was the heart of Nazi rule, so I guess the US version will be at Mar-a-Lago.
This argument boils down to, “I want to be told there isn’t a genocide while there still is. I just want the media gone and the watching orgs defunded and threatened so that I don’t hear about it. Yes it’s still happening at full speed… yes, it’s probably even worse now… but I would have heard about it everyday with Harris. With trump, the news is talking about the gulf of America, so I don’t have to see it anymore.”
No, the argument is about presenting oneself as having superior morals regardless of real world outcomes.
Consequences don’t matter, only adhering radical ideology.
Holy shit what a dumb take
Fuck Jill Stein and every additional piece of shit who promotes her.
Watch this hour long interview Mehdi Hasan did with her. She’s fucking horrible and I’m glad the finest interviewer of our time got an hour to push her on her bullshit.
Oh thank God that isn’t actually what he said.
what? it’s literally a real tweet https://lightbrd.com/CallForCongress/status/1889238467047243954
I meant I thought he literally said “yeah we are the bad guys”
shut the fuck up vladimir
What about the moral stain of ethnic cleansing?
Yeah, didn’t you hear the news, Gaza is saved!
Oh wait…
I’ve been told by more than one person on Lemmy that not only is it totally not the same thing as genocide, but that genocide is much worse.
Russian stooge says what?
