Tiktok video: https://www.tiktok.com/@cattlemenfamilyfarms/video/7467698017559170350
Bsky post: https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lhrdl5nt222s
Articles:
- https://www.ft.com/content/bed728f5-e832-4c1d-8c1f-791b574ccb4c?sharetype=gift
- https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/trump-california-water-policy-farmers-00202751
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ft.com US farmers ‘prepare for the worst’ in new Trump trade war Guy Chazan 7–9 minutes
Aaron Lehman’s soyabean farm in the heartland of Iowa feels like an oasis of calm in the turbulence and tumult of President Donald Trump’s second term. Yet all that could change in a matter of weeks.
Lehman is bracing himself for the impact of a potential trade war hatched in Washington that he says could lay low the US corn belt and irreparably harm America’s standing with its neighbours.
“Farmers understand that trading relationships go up on a stairway, where you work hard to build them up, but go down on an elevator — very, very fast,” Lehman said in the living room of his farmhouse about 20 miles north of Iowa’s capital Des Moines.
“The long-term effect is that countries around the world will no longer see us as a reliable partner.”
It has been a turbulent week in US trade policy. Trump announced last weekend that he would impose 25 per cent tariffs on Mexico and Canada, saying they were not doing enough to stem the flow of migrants and the illicit drug fentanyl into the US. Then after last-minute talks with the two countries’ leaders, he agreed to give them both a 30-day reprieve.
The same was not the case for China. The 10 per cent levy he imposed on all Chinese imports still stands. And many in Iowa believe it is only a matter of time before the tariffs on America’s northern and southern neighbours are reinstated.
The opening salvo of a new trade war has sent a chill through the Midwest. Canada, Mexico and China together account for half of all American agricultural exports. Just last year, the US sold more than $30bn in farm products to Mexico, $29bn to Canada and $26bn to China, according to American Farm Bureau statistics.
Suddenly, farmers were facing the spectre of retaliatory tariffs and the prospect of a full-scale conflict that some fear could decimate America’s rural heartland. Two large grain silos and an old shed sit on a dry, grassy area with expansive flat fields in the background under a partly cloudy sky Farmers fear a full-scale trade war could decimate America’s rural heartland © Amir Prellberg/FT
Farmers in an area of the country that has become a bedrock of support for Trump now worry that the president’s tariffs, though suspended at the last minute, have permanently damaged the image of the US in the eyes of its most important trading partners.
“We’ve gone from being a seller of choice to a seller of last resort,” said Mark Mueller, a farmer from near Waterloo in north-east Iowa.
Few US states better embody the agricultural wealth of the Midwest than Iowa. It is a land of vast corn fields stretching as far as the eye can see, the landscape broken by the occasional grain silo, hay bale or low-slung barn. Hogs outnumber people more than seven to one.
It is also Trump country. Although Iowa voted for Democratic presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, it backed Trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024 in ever greater numbers.
More than a fifth of Iowa’s economy — or $53.1bn — is tied to agriculture, from crop and livestock production to food processing and manufacturing. It is the country’s largest producer of corn, hogs, eggs and ethanol and a top-three grower of soyabeans. That makes it particularly vulnerable to any downturn in agricultural exports.
“Free trade is the backbone of the economy in the Midwest,” said Ernie Goss, an economist at Creighton University in Omaha, Nebraska. “What we have here is some of the most productive agriculture on the face of the Earth, and the domestic market is not even close to being big enough to absorb all the commodities produced here. You have to have international markets.” Aaron Lehman is seated near a window inside a room, wearing glasses and a checkered shirt ‘The long-term effect is that countries around the world will no longer see us as a reliable partner,’ said Aaron Lehman © Amir Prellberg/FT
The latest volley of tariff threats has evoked painful memories of the trade war unleashed by Trump in his first term. Among the most striking moves was Trump imposing duties on $300bn of Chinese goods. Beijing responded in 2018 by slapping 25 per cent tariffs on imports of US soyabeans, beef, pork, wheat, corn and sorghum.
The skirmish ended with the countries signing a trade deal in 2020 under which Beijing pledged to increase its purchases of US goods and services. But since then, it has been buying more grain from countries such as Argentina and Brazil, which overtook the US as China’s top supplier of corn in 2023.
In the last trade war, “a lot of our Asian buyers started developing relationships with soyabean producers in South America, and they’ve taken more and more of our market”, said Lehman, who is also president of the Iowa Farmers Union. “And we haven’t got it back.”
Not all of Iowa’s farmers oppose the way Trump has used the threat of tariffs to achieve a key policy objective — stemming illegal immigration.
“It was a strategy he needed to use to . . . get those countries to the negotiating table,” said Steve Kuiper, a fourth-generation Iowa farmer who grows corn and soyabeans in Marion County, south-east of Des Moines. After all, “a president has just four years to accomplish all he’s promised to do, so he’s got to get things going immediately to gain traction”.
Still, he is pessimistic that Mexico and Canada will be able to deliver on their pledges to Trump to strengthen border security in time. “It takes forever for these things to happen, and they’ve only got 30 days,” he said. A view through a window shows a barren soybean field The latest volley of tariff threats has evoked painful memories of the trade war unleashed by Donald Trump in his first term © Amir Prellberg/FT
The prospect of another round of trade tensions comes with American farmers already in a tight spot, hit by a fall in crop prices and higher costs. Net farm income, a broad measure of profits, was $181.9bn in 2022 but is projected to have been $140.7bn in 2024, according to data from the US Department of Agriculture — a 23 per cent slump.
“This [trade war] isn’t coming at a good time,” said Rick Juchems, a farmer from near Plainfield in north-east Iowa. “Commodity prices are low and the price of inputs like seed and fertiliser is going up.” Sources from the Iowa Corn Growers Association said many farmers had been producing at a $100 per acre loss.
Investments in new equipment are down, reflecting the wider downturn, said Juchems. “I’ve got friends who’ve lost their jobs selling agricultural machinery because of reduced demand. The lots are full of unsold tractors.”
Makers of farm equipment such as Deere, Kinze Manufacturing and Bridgestone/Firestone have shed hundreds of jobs in Iowa since last year.
Yet the prospects for farm finances could get even gloomier if Trump makes good on his threat of import levies. Fertiliser, for example, could become much more expensive, since more than 80 per cent of the US’s supply of potash — a key ingredient — comes from Canada.
But perhaps the most destructive effect of the tariff debate is the uncertainty it has triggered, just ahead of the crucial spring planting season.
“We’ll get by as long as we know what’s coming,” said Juchems. “But things are changing all the time. I’m sure the whole world is laughing at us.”
Lehman said farmers were trying to stay optimistic. “They tell me they’re hopeful cooler heads will prevail and this dispute will result in good trade agreements,” said Lehman. “But they’re also preparing for the worst.”
we can only hope this is the rock bottom that people need in order to see their way out of the fox news pit of lies.
I wouldn’t bet anything important on it. The lack of empathy endemic to the right means that every voter will have to experience their own life-changing betrayal directly affecting them.
For most of these people, there is no way to convince themselves to dig themselves out, we just have to wait until they keep digging and tunnel to the other side. A better wager would be that’s going to take more time than Trump & Musk will need to gut the government and dismantle democracy.
Even then it’s not for certain. If their politics is grounded in hatred rather than self-interest they have no reason to stop as long as the outgroups can be punished as well.
You can move self-interest to mutualism more easily than you can move hate to compassion.
Even after he loses his farm. Even after his friends and family cut him out of their lives. Even after he goes bankrupt from medical debt.
He will still vote exactly the same as he always does. It’s the definition of a conservative: They don’t change. Consequences be damned!
This is nothing new for Americans. This will go on for many more years, it might not change at all until the corpos do it for them.
HA HA HA
These assholes would be living under a bridge because of GOP policies and they would still blame it on Dems, immigrants and gays.
Fuck them and their primitive ability to understand reality.
First time?
I sadly suspect that this is the type of voter who will continue to blame anyone and everyone else for the problems they triggered themselves.
Cognitive dissonance has well and truly set in.
I think fundamentally this is the underlying issue with the current situation in the USA. I’m not sure what fixing it looks like.
This isn’t something that started in November last year, it’s been brewing for decades, perhaps even longer, it’s that right now it’s burst out like an infected boil and become visible for the whole planet to see. It’s why I used triggered, not caused. I think it’s much, much deeper than the latest election.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of people left who don’t think like this, but they are losing ground fast as their democracy is demolished bit by bit by the billionaires.
Organising, protesting and actively fighting this appears to be where it’s now at.
Point well made. I would expand your comment to include Western “Democracies” as a whole.
Helpful link on how to find like minded folk to organize with: https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/113589807117870451
Mr. Farmer, when trump talks about finding fraud in government, he’s referring to USAID paying you for your farm products. You are the waste he is referring to.
This dude doesn’t mention Trump or Republicans once during the entire video. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if somehow he blames this on the previous administration. I’ve already had multiple conversations blaming any adverse effects from Trump’s decisions on Biden and the Democrats in a similar fashion.
In the TikTok video, no, but in the BlueSky video, he mentions he voted for Trump. Although, your point most likely still stands, because he doesn’t place blame.
Why does America subsidize so much corn?
Lots of reasons. Generally its not just corn but soybeans too. Essentially the USA has optimized its supply chain for producing massive amounts of corn and soybeans and bringing them to market. The subsidy is to ensure that USA capacity to produce enough food for its populace irrespective of geopolitics or world economies. We never want to be in a position where we aren’t ramped up to feed our population entirely. If you overproduce, you can always get rid of the excess. If you underproduce, at least a portion of your population goes hungry. That cannot be allowed to happen. The ancillary benefits are things like USAID that use the overproduction as expressions of Soft Power around the world in the form of nutritional aid.
Most of this corn is not meant to be eaten though.
USDA?
No, they meant what they said. USAID buying their products to feed starving people around the world. USAID was killed by Elon. They estimate six million people around the world could starve. USAID was 0.6% of the federal budget.
Oh, that poster was trying to correct me saying USDA instead of USAID? You’re right of course, I meant USAID, NOT USDA. USAID is (was) a large purchaser of farm products which it would send around the world feeding starving populations. USAID is (was?) a giant customer of US Farmers buying up huge amounts of grains. It would purchase $3B in agricultural commodities giving a huge injection of cash to US Farmers.
Whats your question here?
reagan bankrupted thousands of farmers too. conservatives are horrible for the rural voters who always hit that button
George W was awfully to the military and veterans get screwed by republicans all the time. Yet they love republicans and vote for them in droves. People don’t make sense.
When I was in, the bs spewed was that you should vote Republican to get pay increases because the Dems won’t do it. Of course the GOP also likes to chip away at the VA and other veteran aftercare. We also had personnel equipment shortages like armor during OEF/OIF and Congress just shrugged.
Unfortunately there are a lot of impressionable kids and they pass the same dumbassery on when they are old timers. It is effective because you’re basically indoctrinated to trust senior leaders.
People don’t make sense.
Sure they do. Stupid people fall for propaganda and these losers are stuuuuuuuupid.
Except it’s not just very stupid people. It’s a big demographic swath. Some folks know what psychological buttons to consistently push and keep pushing those very reliable buttons. These are old tricks, but they’re now amplified by the technology of new media -and these dillweeds have great feedback now thanks to social media to know if this week’s shenanigans are playing well so they can adjust accordingly. A mess. Humankind’s evolutionary biology weaponized to the benefit of a few. It’s where we are.
You can fool some of the people all of the time. They’re mostly called conservatives.
Yea but do dems have cowboy hats? See, you vote for the hat cuz that means you share VALYOOOZ!
Turns out racism trumps all.
Turns out trump’s all racism 🙃
Oops! All racism!
All racists turn out for Trump
The “conservative” plan is and has always been to eliminate small businesses. That dipshit’s land will get gobbled up by a corporation.
Why are half the posts here unverifiable screenshots and social media clips, often out of context, as opposed to something more substantial and provable? I don’t doubt this is happening but this hardly counts as a legitimate source showing this is some larger opinion/shift occurring.
Here’s a post on Bsky it that makes the screenshot verifiable: https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lhrdl5nt222s
Its leopardsatemyface, where do you expect the individuals having their faces eaten be found aside from social media? Most of those taking place on social media many on Lemmy would be unwilling to go to, and may even be blocked by the instance (x for example, depending on the instance of course).
This community is not about large scale shifts so much as individuals having their faces eaten by the leopards eating faces party.
So I’m not sure what you’re expecting to see instead.
What do you expect
The occasional report, study, article, interview, etc of substance? Is it some strange requirement that we’re not allowed to show something a bit…more? Are the rules of this community that it has to be out of context screenshots and social media clips?
Why are you asking me something you can easily figure out yourself? You’re just being contrarian. Besides, how can you possibly claim to be showing “large scale shifts” with posts like this? Surely you’re joking.
At the risk of being controversial, you MAY need to follow more communities than LAMF to get the big picture of trends in American political perceptions.
You may also get upvotes for sharing here if you find something concrete though.
Not OP. I get what your asking for, but this isn’t supposed to be a news community. The whole point of this community is schadenfreude on the concept that people have completely voted against their own interests. Essentially, it highlights people get blindsided when the party they voted for enacts policy or actions that harm them…especially when they were told this exact thing would happen.
There used to be absolutely tons of Brexit items up here as well (at least on the reddit side). We’re about to see 4 more years of it.
It would be like if you went to an unboxing community and got frustrated at the fact that no one then did anything with the items after they were unboxed - they absolutely will…it’s just not the point of that community.
Meme communities and communities like this are actually very important disseminators of information. I personally would like to have a slightly higher floor than “I saw a screenshot with text” tbh. Maybe that’s just me though.
Is it some strange requirement that we’re not allowed to show something a bit…more? Are the rules of this community that it has to be out of context screenshots and social media clips?
No one said it wasn’t allowed. It absolutely would be, feel free to find one and post!
Besides, how can you possibly claim to be showing “large scale shifts” with posts like this?
Who is claiming “large scale shifts”? These are anecdotes that fit, nothing more.
I honestly don’t understand why you’re surprised. I’m not being contrarian, I don’t understand why you’d think this would be some meta analysis community. Its a specific community with a simple topic.
The video link is helpful. Memes are not journalism. You’re right to hold on to skepticism.
you’re right the video certainly is something, I’m not saying it’s worthless to be clear. But I don’t like feeling like I’m browsing conservative corners that just plaster screenshots and claim whatever they want. It’s hard not to compare this community to that sometimes (even if the content is generally way more accurate/truthful).
Me either. I personally get some fulfillment by doing deep dives on the claims of rage bait screenshots. It’s a good habit to get into, because even if you don’t feel like doing the work for “this one,” you’re still primed to know that that work needs to be done before taking it seriously.
Propaganda works by taking advantage of what people already want to hear.
Yeah, to balance I sometimes check /r/conservative these days. They’re obviously full blown MAGA but boy are they not regretting a thing.
And if you look at approval ratings he’s doing pretty fucking well
By the numbers: 53% of Americans approve of Trump so far, according to a newly released CBS News/YouGov poll conducted Feb. 5 to 7, while 47% disapproved.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/09/trump-approval-ratings-poll
Another article: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/trump-california-water-policy-farmers-00202751
The thing is that it’s not that easy to post it as its own post, as farmers haven’t all voted for Trump
Did a bit more research, found this 2019 article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/08/30/amid-trump-tariffs-farm-bankruptcies-and-suicides-rise/
“(A farmer) votes for billionaires, (he) is surprised when they act like billionaires.”
The OP’s post and headline doesn’t claim any larger opinion shift is occurring.
Just that a farmer who voted for the LEFP is getting his face eaten by the LEFP.
That’s the point of the instance.
The water dump in the added links is definitely true, and has impacted mostly-republican farmers in the Central Valley for no useful purposes.
You say this yet another comment actually claimed that this is exactly what you’re saying this isn’t (indicative of a larger shift).
Then your comment should have been a reply to them, not a top-level comment on the original post.
It was in response to my top level comment.
Ah. I see the issue, you misread. Allow me to quote myself with some emphasis added:
This community is not about large scale shifts so much as individuals having their faces eaten by the leopards eating faces party.
I think you missed the “not” on your first read.
It’s been interesting watching the schadenfreude.
My parents have been borrowing my car for almost a year now so they can drive for DoorDash, because if they don’t, this country will sit by and let bloodsucking capitalists take their home and their lives. This didn’t happen to them under Trump. It happened under Biden, and Democrats shouldn’t be pointing and laughing. They should be having calm, measured conversations with these people and trying to garner their support instead.
But for all their degrees and education, they lack empathy and don’t understand people at all.
It’s always good to blame the democrats when the felon slashes social security and doubles food prices.
When the democrats have been warning about those consequences of voting for trump the whole of last year.
And it’s funny that you mention the lack of empathy when that priest was just accused of “The sin of empathy”.
The people you accuse of lack of empathy are in favour of increasing minimum wage and benefits for the poor.
It’s sad to see a country give the reins to a madman that said he would be a dictator and follows through on project 2025.
When all we have is factory farmed,
grabbingroutinely pesticided* and routinely antibioticd food, will they? Like I’m really okay with vegan but plenty butter is still just transfat. Chemicals build up in our bodies, especially liver.This didn’t happen to them
What didn’t happen to them?
Democrats shouldn’t be pointing and laughing
Nobody’s pointing and laughing. Leopards Eating People’s Faces is about Justice-based Schadenfreude. It is the pleasure associated with seeing a person who wished ill on other people receive that ill themselves. The overriding emotion isn’t joy, it’s a mix of exasperation and relief. Exasperation because someone was stupid or cruel enough to wish those things for other people, and relief that there’s finally some justice because they’re suffering from the exact thing they wished on those other people.
Shitler stabs baby…this is clearly a both sides issue.
The impoverishment is very much a both-sides issue. That’s how Trump got elected. You and the other Democratic voters are only acting like you care because, at the moment, it’s politically convenient. You have no real values.
Spoken like a chump who hasn’t bothered to look up the voting history of both parties, so their opinion is worthless.
Just because the Ratchet Effect is true doesn’t mean that both sides are the same. You sound like a Republican. And the only value Republicans have is hate.
You wanna improve things? Vote in leftists who will actually work to fix things. The presidential elections ain’t gonna do shit until we have a party actually willing to field candidates who want to fix things.
I love that your response is: “You’re not wrong, but you’re wrong.” I sound like someone who isn’t looking through blue or red-eyed glasses, and to partisans, that makes me sound like the opposition.
Thanks for your input.
Nah, you sound like leopards ate your face. Because this did happen under Trump as well. The programs that help protect people like your parents were created by leftists, slashed by Republicans for decades, and kept on life support by Democrats.
Look at what Musk is doing now. All the issues that your parents have? About to get way worse, very quickly.
You came into the “People who fucked around and found out” community to complain about people pointing out people who fucked around and found out, and called them the elitist Democrat stereotype that Republicans always pull out because they’re not trying to “reach across the aisle” to a group of people who repeatedly vote against their own interests, no matter how often you point it out.
This didn’t happen to them under Trump. It happened under Biden
Weird, because by all available metrics, the economy was recovering under Biden.
So your parents must have been doing something wrong.
lol good. Reap the bullshit you’ve sown, dipshits.
They’re eating shit so we have to smell their breath.
They’re dragging us down with them.
It’s probably too early to tell just how many people will be impacted and if those impacted will connect the dots to Trump and his cabinet’s actions. But I’ll ask as a precaution - is there a lethal dose for schadenfreude? My gut tells me we may experience quite a bit of it and I don’t want to overdose.
Hahaha 🤣😂
Dude doesn’t quite connect the dots. The government — under Biden — had a deal to save his farm. The government — under Trump — is changing all the rules, reneging on the contract. If all he groks from this is “government bad,” then game over. Except it’s not a game.
Commodity crops prices often trend the inverse of the economy. The reason is simple; It is highly dependent on the export market.
When overall economy is strong, the dollar is strong versus other currencies. This makes importing easier and exporting harder. So prices for commodities in the U.S. fall.
When the overall economy is weak the dollar falls in value. This makes importing harder but exporting much easier. Prices for commodities rise rapidly and farmers make more gross money.
Even through they are making more gross income their cost skyrocket so their net returns are in general pretty average.
Farmers tend to make the most money when the economy is in recovery mode and commodity prices are still higher but input costs fall.
So here is the vicious cycle we have fallen into. Republicans get into power and crash the economy. When it crashes, farmers get high prices but low returns. Democrats come in, repair the economy but by the time elections come around, farmers have not made any money for a year or two. Rinse and repeat.
Now the orange moron adds a bit of a twist to it. Trade war: This can fuck the farmer up really bad as buyers are willing to pay a modest premium to minimize the impact of an unreliable trading partner. It reduces both the volume moved and prices offered from other countries for years.
My impression from the video is that all he is taking from this situation is “government bad.”
I mean, it is sort of the lesson. The government sort of exists to be stable and a stabilizing force.
We’ve concentrated power in the executive branch for years, throughout several administrations. If one election can cause this much chaos in a month (really a few weeks). Than the government isn’t performing it’s primary function.
At this point I’m not sure how much it matters that one party is mostly responsible. The state is looming on failure. These radical position shifts every few years are a bad thing.
Most (none of them, probably) governments aren’t designed to deal with this level of intentional destruction of infrastructure. They expect officials to govern the country, not set it on fire.
Yes, there is literally no governmental system that can function while operated by bad faith actors (outside of sci-fi).
The strength of a system over time is ultimately based on how well it encourages the participants to act honestly and humanely.
That’s super funny. Get a factory job and enjoy!
Whoops they’ve mostly been outsourced. I guess you’re homeless! Wait, that’s illegal now . Go to jail. Heyy good news while in prison you get to work on your old farm again!
🎶 It’s the circle of life! 🎶
I dislike how the slow roll of economy coincides with voting cycles. These iowan farmers would get gutted now, but the whole impact of that would grow well over 4 years of presidency, and those dealing with it by them would not get credit for it like it always happens, and many would vote degeneric right again as they usually do.
In four years, these same people will vote against their own interest again because “Trump said he would save my farm”. While conveniently overlooking the fact that both parties will be offering to save their farm by that time, and only one of those will have actual solutions and won’t have caused the problem in the first place.
but remember, we’re not allowed to support the people with solutions to our problems because people on the other side of the world are committing genocide with american weapons.
Still blaming Harris losing on everyone buts yourselves, I see. So, how’s the democrats coming along on a cohesive plan to fight Trump?
Hello? Anybody?
I choose to blame the ones at the helm who ignored their base and chose to run a pro genocidal platform thinking they had an easy win, and not the ones conflicted about said genocide.
Pointing at a scapegoat instead of the ones who took the decision and still stand by it serves nothing.
As a warning to my own side: Mark Cuban is eyeing Bluesky. Do not trust him even if he’s saying the right things about Trump and a few other things about American politics.
I was never at risk of siding with him on anything? Why would I?
He’s the least shitty of the Sharks. For some people, this is misinterpreted as being good.
That’s why I looked to Mastodon as a Twitter alternative and not Bluesky.
Still a billionaire.
Good.
MAGAts can only learn the hard way.
So this chode actually has a shot at learning something for once in his life.
No he’d vote for Trump all over again tomorrow. He doesn’t care how clearly bad this is for him, he’s still better than black people, women, and Hispanics.
No, you will continue vote on a system that… not ever will represent you… Trump is a face not the system
Yeah the one part of the article someone was more worried about border security than their own ability to farm.
Well I cant afford to eat anymore, the products all became to expensive and I’m going to have to sell my farm for Nickles on the dollar but it’s alright, because those other people trying to escape inflation somewhere else, didn’t get a chance at an opportunity either.
Actually, history would suggest you’re wrong.
Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all had control of Congress going into office and lost it at the mid-terms. It’s such a strong historical pattern I expect it to repeat in 2026.
The problem here is that both parties rule as conservatives, so you can change who (at least based on outward appearances) has power, but the wealthy class is still pulling all of the strings anyway.
They Will not
The problem is all of the innocent people who have to starve to death to teach them this lesson.
The farming section of the 2025 Project spelled this out.
If they were so important to us why did they vote that way to harm us ?
Is this what liberal tears taste like ?
He probably blames Biden because the contract was signed under his administration.
But an administration comes up with a good deal for you, one that improves your life, and in this case your farm, and you vote for the other guy. I guess I’m not a gymnast.
MAGAts can only learn the hard way.
The problem is, he’s clearly not learning anything. The whole video is “see, the government sucks!”, which is basically the Republican message.
It’s depressing. One side campaigns on “government sucks”, and then breaks the government. The people who see that don’t say “hey, those guys broke the government” they think “hey, they’re right, the government sucks, I should keep voting for them.”
FUCK THEM ALL FAFO
