I’m sorry… this just reeks of “weird, salty old person” to me, like a great grandpa on an incoherent rant from some other time.
I was born in the 90s, just learned that “LGB” used to be a thing, and now can only picture some really racist, old relative of mine using it. Like, can we please not go back to the 1950s, when Trump was raised?
LGB is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen.
I’m not THAT young (born in the 90s) and even I’ve never ever seen LGB as an initialism without the T.
Born in the 70s here. I do remember LGB without the T in the 1990s and early 2000s, you probably were too young to pick up on the term. In any case, trans rights came into the spotlight much later than LGB rights.
A great leap backwards :(
This sort of thing is exactly why I say “queer” instead of using initials. Because you can keep adding more initials all day and you’re still going to be leaving people out that should be counted and you can take initials away like those people never counted to begin with. And it’s very easy for cishet people to ignore any of those letters individually and still act like they’re an ally.
“Queer” may have negative roots, but it seems to be generally accepted as an inoffensive term today and, I think, more reflective of sexuality as a spectrum. I wouldn’t mind a better word to use without those negative roots, but I just can’t think of one.
This does seem rather practical as a catch-all term. LGBTQ+ is much too cumbersome
I’ve already heard a bunch of queer people around the internet use “queer”, so I guess it just needs more adoption
Queer is so much easier to say and is becoming safer to use without someone assuming you’re using it negatively.
UK here, we have the LGB alliance, no surprises that it’s a bunch of bigots. Transphobia is our chief export after all.
that’s terf island, no surprises there. the US is now trying to beat you at it though. it’s almost guaranteed the laws will be worse and it’s going to be more misogynistic general as well. transphobia is an extension of misogyny.
You need to put the display text in the square brackets, then link in the standard brackets.
[text](link)
Huh, it works fine for me to link it in my app that way, thank you for letting me know, I’ve fixed it
I’m sure they initially just did a ctrl+f for “lgbt” then someone on truth social who’s totally not obsessed with checking on gay and trans stuff all the time boosted a post about how it still had a reference to ‼️‼️🚨🚨gay shit🚨🚨‼️‼️
Here’s the Internet archive capture of the page originally.
Archive.org isn’t working for me right now. I used some other website to find it here’s the list that shows the old option:
https://archive.ph/3kPt6here is the list with the new option:
https://archive.ph/aDsyX
Gender is now an anti-social construct
Every step they take to erase us, I come this much closer to cutting out the people in my life that support him, regardless of his hateful policy. It tears me up inside, because I love them dearly. But eventually something will give, and I won’t hold my tongue any longer.
That’s enough internet for me for today. But who am I kidding? I’ll be back to doom-scroll further. They are winning. They’ve been winning ever since that fuck ran for office.
It wouldn’t be productive, but I’ve been thinking of texting some things at my mom. She hasn’t been hostler to me since I came out, but also not accepting with misgendering and dead naming.
I know she voted for him before, and I’m pretty sure she did this time. With the way things are going I will probably never see her again. I want her to know why.
I know you didn’t ask for feedback but if you want another person’s perspective, I’ve cut them all out (trump supporters and bigots), and the people who remain that I feel are still worth trying to maintain or improve the relationship I have been doing what I can to show them the reality of the situation and expose them to the suffering of others that they are shielded from by privilege.
If it were me being misgendered and dead named and otherwise being treated with disrespect by a parent who voted for my erasure, I would also be thinking about cutting them off and telling them how harmful they have been through their behavior and asking how they live with themselves when they’re enabling and even cheering on the violation of human rights of so many people in their own country. I would explain how they have hurt me and the problems they have caused or enabled or failed to protect me from. And if I had the energy/capacity for it I would maybe send some links showing the damage 45 has been doing in such a short period of time if I thought it was worth the time, in particular ways he is hurting people that look like that parent or have similar life circumstances, since they don’t seem to care about people who don’t.
Whatever you end up doing I wish you luck and good outcomes, and safety and peace at home and otherwise. I’m sorry you have such a shitty parent and I can relate in some ways and definitely feel you. You’re not alone 💚
Please keep telling me there’s no genocide of queer people in America. I hear that on Lemmy regularly these days.
Any gender-affirming care for teenagers have been canceled, so the (non-tracked) suicide rate will already skyrocket. However right now the camps are only for “immigrants” and those who get caught by ICE as collateral damage of their hunt; trans people are in second place though. I assume first they’ll come for teenagers as well, ripping them out of their families who’ll get accused of child abuse (for trying to protect their trans kids), then the camps for everyone else will be build.
Any gender-affirming care for teenagers have been canceled
Yeah, I doubt this… cis-boys getting their man-boobs removed, and cis-girls getting breast augmentations aren’t going to have any trouble.
You know gender affirming care isn’t just surgery, right?
I know. I think you missed the point of my comment.
My point is that it’s still going to happen, it’s just being cancelled for trans people.
It’s almost like the “You’re just panicking, Transpeople aren’t really being erased.” crowd were full of fucking shit.
T stands for “travelers,” right?
donno, i mean it could mean transformers, i’ve seen the movies, the trilogy, they are great and have big guns.
And officials just go along with it, no pushback at all
“Many countries do not recognise the X gender marker”
Yeah, guess which country also doesn’t do that?
Many of those countries are also considered shitholes.
First they came for the Trans people, but I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t Trans.
You know I had a crazy thought yesterday… I’ve gone in the bathroom a bunch of times and never once have I tried looking at anybody else’s genitalia… Why the hell does anybody care about this?
Edit: I mean not accepting people for being people everybody should just be cool with each other… What the government is doing is beyond evil and we need to do everything in our power to stop it.
Because they think nothing through. It doesn’t occur to them when they say trans women will rape girls in bathrooms that cis women can rape girls too. It also doesn’t occur to them that forcing everyone to use the changing rooms of their biological sex because “women are uncomfortable with a man changing next to them” means that they will be changing next to people who sure as hell look like men what with the no breasts and the beard. I’m guessing that will make them a hell of a lot more uncomfortable.
They think nothing through, then get angry when anyone has the gall to point obvious shit out to them.
You probably also don’t watch far right media all day. Fox News and it’s spawn have been fear mongering trans people almost non-stop for years now. That’s the entire disconnect from the right and normal people
And don’t forget conflating trans people and drag queens.
Ever do a drag show? Even if you’re cishet?
Sorry, you’re trans now.
I had the unfortunate experience of working with newsmax doing Spicer and Co… I’m well aware of the paradigm of hate these groups propagate needlessly…
Yeah I mean to say it’s not your sole source of information. I’m sorry you had to go through that
Next up, they’re going to erase the remaining letters
Doubt it. The LGB part of the equation aren’t hard for the average Joe to empathize with, they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group. The first 3 letters are just who you’re attracted to, the last letter is who you are and that’s a much bigger deal to a lot of people.
- Human Sexuality: We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and family between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western Civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin. We urge the Texas Legislature to pass religious liberty protections for individuals, businesses, and government officials who believe marriage is between one man and one woman. We oppose the granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for sexual behavior or identity, regardless of state of origin. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose non-traditional sexual behavior out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
- Definition of Marriage and Family: We support the definition of marriage as a God-ordained, legal, and moral covenant only between one biological man and one biological woman. Further, we support a traditional definition of family with only one biological man in the role of father and one biological woman in the role of mother. We are opposed to same-sex parenting, intentionally subjecting a child to the loss of their biological father or mother, and other non-traditional definitions of family
- Homosexuality: Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin, and we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. No one should be granted special legal status based on their LGBTQ+ identification.
from the official 2024 Texas GOP platform: https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/2024-RPT-Platform.pdf
Except, at least to my knowledge, there’s nowhere in the Bible that says mentions gender, but a couple of parts where it’s pretty explicit about acceptable sexuality.
Doesn’t really matter though as these people can’t read to begin with.
They’re going to ban the Bible too. This isn’t about religion, at least not to those in power.
they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group
I’m gonna be honest, this seems like baseless speculation. At least by my flawed recollection, cis people barely thought about trans people at all over ten years ago. It’s taken a very well financed and concerted effort by the right to stir up as much hatred as they’ve managed to to this point.
I’m surprised they haven’t.
It’s a weird one, probably this is because I always try to see the bright side but I have mixed feelings. On one hand writing off just trans and queer people feels even more targeted and evil than deleting all letters.
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
Now we have to keep pushing to get “TQ” similarly unerasable. 💪
slightly hopeful
He’s pulled the gun, but only shot one of us so far. That’s good, right? . Right??
It would have been even easier to remove this page altogether, wouldn’t it?
I’m not disagreeing with you at all, but I think my point is being completely missed here. My point is not about what Trump has done which is unequivocally bad.
My point is about what we’ve achieved so far. We’ve made enough progress that to combat the “woke virus” they’re having to target first trans people specifically rather than directly removing mentions to LGBTQ+. I’m hopeful about the fact that we’ve achieved so much so far - obviously not about the fact that we’re being persecuted.
It only means that they see the lgb as still being useful for now. There’s no love there.
The only reason they did not remove the rest of the page is because there is still broader support for gay people.
They are planning to make trans both a mental illness and a sex crime. Separating the T out here is a step towards making that distinction.
It will be a longer and harder journey to do the same for lesbian, gay and bisexual people, but they will once the project is done. But you go after easier targets first to build momentum.
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
No, that’s completely wrong. They’re coming after trans people because trans people are the easiest target right now. They also intend to get rid of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people, but it’s easier to focus on one group at a time and attempt to split people apart.
They did the same shit in the UK with the “LGB Alliance,” mostly straight TERFs collaborating with the Heritage Foundation and doing absolutely nothing to advance the rights of the people they claimed to be supporting, focusing entirely on attacking trans people to the point of making alliances with extreme reactionaries and anti-feminists.
Anyone using the “LGB” acronym is either a reactionary using divide and conquer tactics or a useful idiot to said reactionaries. There is no plus side here.
But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.
Because the Nazis stopped at just Jews, right? Surely they never expanded upon that to encompass all “undesirables”, right?
Oh, wait.
How does that old saying go?
“First they came for the transgender people, and then they stopped there.”
Reminder that the “LGB Alliance” in the UK literally worked with the Heritage Foundation and described it as “the only possible course of action.” It was an op with most of the supporters being straight transphobes trying to sow division. This move has the Heritage Foundation written all over it, they love that tactic, divide and conquer.
Any trans people reading this comment, who are around 18- 25 years old. Germany and some other countries offer a social year, where you work over here for a year. You get to live here, have healthcare etc. Only cache is that you gotta work in a social sector job. Sometimes people can manage to make it two years. So if you are looking for a temporary way out, check it out. There is nothing you can lose by trying to do that year.
Edit: For anyone checking this out, it’s called FSJ, or Freiwilliges Soziales Jahr. Some info here: https://bak-fsj.de/ (German) https://en.life-in-germany.de/voluntary-year-in-germany/ (some general information)
Sincerely, correct me if I’m wrong, but reading through info on this it looks like you’re not cleared to do paid employment on the necessary visa for this. If someone opts for this (it does look like a cool program, and I have some people in mind where it’d be an excellent fit if they can swing it), you’re going to need funds for self-support in advance (similar to other programs like this - WOOFing etc.)
If you have the means to do this, definitely looks worth exploring though. Obviously gonna have to learn German (what I’m seeing suggests at a B1 level, though noting some roles may accept a lower level of fluency).
“About 70 countries still consider consensual same-sex relations a crime. That list is growing by one more country, hopefully in the next months. Please stay tuned to our new and exciting developments regarding your collective and the hate we profess to it!!”
