EU absolutely is a country.

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    Danish person here.

    Yes. Ban Google, Meta, X and all the rest. Let’s use a bit of EU funds to fund a privacy respecting social media that is NOT controlled by the US or China.

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    Considering they’re being actively and without denial used to fuck us over, yes. I’m not going to play the censorship card. The US is now no better than Russia, there’s no reason we should treat them better. US platforms are now literally an offensive weapon, Musk already started riots over fake news and is directly and openly meddling in our politics. This shit needs to stop. Just like we blocked RT news, this needs to go.

    It’s in the same vein like Trump threatening military action against Greenland. Trump is literally committing extortion under the treat of war. The US is an actively hostile nation that targets everyone including their own allies. Like what the actual fuck? How did we get here? We need to decouple from the US as soon as possible. I’d go as far as compare the US to a ravid animal on the international stage, I’m absolutely mortified by what’s going on.

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    Not really. I think the whole internet should be accessible to everyone.

    Do I think Americans are often obnoxious online? Yes.

    Do I know for a fact their big tech corporations are equally as evil as the Chinese ones, no matter how much their propaganda tries to convince me China is worse? Definitely.

    Is Xwitter a blight on society that only got worse since an out-and-out fascist bought it? Of course it is.

    But closing ourselves off from the world is not the solution.

    What I would support would be stricter regulations on data collection and algorithmic manipulation, because those things are bad no matter who is doing it.

    I would support heavier tariffs on foreign big tech, because if they’re going to use our people as a resource, they should at least pay up so we can put that money towards taking care of our own.

    And I would support a government program to incentivise home-grown technological solutions, because digital sovereingty is a concern, and the only solution is having our own shit.

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    As a Canadian, yes please. Their culture infiltrates ours so much that there are some people who believe in the American superiority and don’t understand that we’re two different peoples, with very different approaches to how we should live and treat others. Obviously, we Canadians are not perfect, and we have more in common than not but it’s disheartening to hear Canadians (including people in my own inner circle) view our country as nothing but the USA’s little bitch.

    I get the world is sliding right, and our political pendulum definitely swings. But I worry that in the efforts to acknowledge the harms that we’ve done (and currently do) to people in our own country, that the backlash to those policies and acknowledgments will cause us to lose things that I’m proud of and freedoms that I enjoy.

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      I agree, I worked a Canadian election years ago and a voter left the booth to ask me how to vote for a particular American political party because they couldn’t find it on the ballot. I imagine things have only gotten worse since then.

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    I didn’t need a ban. They enshitified and I moved on. All Meta apps (including WhatsApp) gone. X/Twitter gone. LinkedIn gone. Reddit gone.

    Now I use Lemmy, Mastodon/BlueSky, and Signal.

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        I’m not American.

        A ban would fix a lot of problems. But only because the platforms moderate things to match the platform owners opinions.

        Platforms enabling free speech are beneficial.

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          A ban would fix a lot of problems.

          I think a ban would cause a lot of problems too. it’s not cut and dry and banning a social media platform is the “nuclear” option

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    I know I’m not the target of this question, but as American I’d like to see the reverse. I wanna see more non American social media in the US.

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    In it’s current form? Absolutely. Optimizing for anger is not doing us any favours

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    I heard there is talk of a projects for the EU to increase its digital sovereignty. Now would be a great time for those projects to come to fruition.

    As for me, if this means that there’ll be an EU-wide reboot of Hyves, I’d be thrilled. Extra so if, on the back-end, it works on a Federated system.

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    I didn’t use to, and I am generally against limiting access to any sort of source of information. But the last few years have convinced me otherwise - the owners of these platforms are willing to destroy our way of life for their own personal benefit. Fuck Zuck. Fuck Musk. Fuck all of these charlatans and conmen.

    Edit: oh, and the EU isn’t a country (yet), it’s a supranational organization which presents unique challenges in terms of policy. Def not a country

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    I am so tempted, so tempted to write yes. But no, at the end of the day, I don’t think speech should be regulated like that. If we as a society don’t learn to distinguish truth from bullshit, democracy can’t survive.

    EU absolutely is a country.

    Also, fuck you.