Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.

I know it’s not the same, but if you don’t have the sensitivity, then obviously you don’t have to eat the same food.

And yes, I agree, most gluten free replacements are kinda bad. Nowhere near as bad as they were 20 years ago, though. Took me months, but I actually did find a gluten free pasta that’s honestly edible and doesn’t ruin the dish with some weird texture or taste I don’t like.

I only tell you this because I too used to think gluten-free is a fad and people are just “imagining” benefits from going gluten-free free.

I’ve had a stomach pain my entire life. No doctor ever suggested going gluten free and I even had a biopsy taken at 18 to see whether it’s celiacs. Either it was a false negative or I have what is known as NCGS, Non-celiac gluten sensitivity.

And it’s genuinely not a joke.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10593161/

Non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) has been shown to occur in individuals without serological or biopsied evidence of celiac disease (CD), who manifest psychotic ormood disorders that resolve following elimination of gluten. In this case history, we discuss a similar manifestation in a 31-year-old woman without serological evidence of CD, whose psychiatric symptoms improve with gluten elimination.

A 31-year-old Caucasian woman with a history of severe gluten sensitivity, Hashimoto’s disease, mosaic turner’s syndrome, and presumed schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type with multiple inpatient psychiatric involuntary admissions presented to the ED on petition for aggressive behavior by law enforcement. The patient had a week-long break-down at her parents’ home, where she also resides. She reportedly broke several objects and threatened to slit her mother’s throat. On the physical exam, she was malodorous, disheveled, and had long extremely matted hair. Psychiatric evaluation was notable for rambling speech, dysphoric mood, agitation, and irritability. Thought content was disorganized and consisted of grandiose and paranoid persecutory delusions. She was emergently given Haldol for worsening agitation, as she became physically threatening.

And all that goes a way by not ingesting gluten. So you know, which would you rather, a crazy gf and donuts or a friendly gf with some gluten tree donuts which are like sort of okay?

I’m not saying your gf has NCGS but just saying I understand the resentment (id sell my own mother for some proper gluteny carbonara) but going gluten and dairy free (casein, the milk protein, often also caused symptoms with NCGS patients, might want to maybe let your gf know if she’s improved with gluten free but still experiencing some GI symptoms) may have improved her well being so much that I think you should at least try to get over the resentment.

You can always go eat out alone. But if she’s maintaining a strict diet, she prolly shouldn’t go to a single fast food burger place. Some of them offer gluten free buns but they don’t guarantee the meal to be glutenfree as its made in the same kitchen. Also, worth asking if they’re have a separate deep frier for gluten free things if getting fries.

Sorry for the rant. I truly understand the resentment and the hankering for cheesy gluteny goodness, trust me. But I also know how massively the diet can improve life quality (Google “gluten belly” for instance for some insta girls showing the difference). And I know how frustrating it can feel when other people see it as something that’s not "really necessary", instead treating it somewhat like someone not liking pickles in their cheeseburger. (I’m sure you don’t treat her like that, I’m talking about people I know.)

There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).

Switched for whole grain bread for that exact reason, I found out I’m pre-diabetic so my next step after paying attention to my diet will be taking up exercise.

You sacrifice and sacrifice, cutting everything out of your habits or diet that may bring you pleasure, only for the sake of extending your life. Then at the end of it all, you look back in dismay, in the dismal realization that despite your years, you have never lived at all…

I also eat cake, red meat, smoked meat, vegetables high in oxalates, various fried foods, and occasionally drink alcohol. Life should not be about eliminating every risky behavior, it should be about fulfillment and weighing risk against probability and payoff. We all die eventually and I want to eat tasty food before I get there.

“Oh I really shouldn’t, I …”
“Come on dude, this one’s partly mouldy.”
“I TAKE FOUR! I MEAN FIVE!”

And CHEESE !

When I first moved to Japan and was shopping at a supermarket, I noticed they sell yakisobapan. so grilled noodles in bred. I guess as a kid I would use my garlic bread to make a little sandwich with spaghetti so I kinda get it, but still.

I’m in my mid/late thirties and I still put almost everything in bread. My 4 years old sometimes make bread sandwiches (one type of bread in another type of bread). I’m not there, yet.

Woah, is it you, Sloppy Joe himself?? 😲