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  • Pascals wager is more about belief in any effectively omnipotent being who is threatening you. I agree with OP that Rokos basilisk is a form, or at least in the same family, of the wager.

    If anything, it strengthens one of my key arguments against the wager - there are an infinite number of potential God’s with different conditions on why they will punish. Picking out any particular god to follow for any reason is simply nonsense.



  • I would say your simply wrong.

    It is not more moral to keep billions of animals alive, and in miserable conditions, solely for the purpose of consuming them, despite any romanticized idea of keeping a completely artificially selected species around.

    And also, that there isn’t a world where we completely give up meat eating anyways, and even less of a world where we let them go extinct.




  • Your mindset is that kids are somehow encapsulated and isolated property and not full individuals who are lacking any real agency, who will grow up as member of the community to the quality that their upbringing allowed them.

    Spending money on ensuring children have healthy and safe childhoods is both the easiest moral and easiest social financial decision of all time.

    Children cannot decide to be alive, they cannot decide the environment they are in, they cannot decide their parents, or make any reasonable effort to change those circumstances. It doesn’t matter what decisions their parents make or made, we still have a choice to either let those without agency suffer or not.

    Beyond that, if you have the moral backbone of some worm, then think about this: children who grow up financially secure result in adults who are simply more productive and less costly than those who are not. To the point where an adult who had that security during childhood will easily contribute far more than it cost for that security. They are already earning their keep.



  • If only sex was as simple as a selection of gametes. There is a wide range of chromosomal, hormonal, genitalia, and physiological variation in human sex characteristics, and it is much more common than you think. And that is ignoring much more subtle variation and overlap between the sexes - cognitive, emotional, psychological - that are just as much a part of the natural variation of human sex as any other.

    And before you come back with an argument about some rhetoric about “conditions” or what ever - all of evolution starts as a rare variation that becomes common in a certain population. Certain eye colors are nearly the same rarity.

    Finally, there are plenty of animals that have individuals that do not reproduce. Examples are naked mole rats. We aren’t a eusocial species, but it isn’t to say we don’t have some very early characteristics of it.