Happy new year 2025…
Trump can get fucked. I’ll fight tooth and nail before we become a 51st state.
Start learning how to resist his nonsense now. With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
The fuckery is about to ramp up.
I think all parties have at this point…
With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
Oh, it’s been going on for a while.
I can’t find it right now, but there was a graph posted a few weeks ago showing how much the CPC outspent the other parties on campaign advertising in 2024. It was astounding.
Me too. I don’t want to be a part of the U.S.
I think it’s time you accept your orange overlord
No. I won’t. Fight me. 💪
I’ll do what I can to help from the US side!
You know, I never thought I would be praising Fallout for its prescience in predicting the future.
Le Anschluss?
I’m 2020 52% of Puerto Ricans who voted said yes to joining the United States as a full fledged state. What about them, they actually want to be a part of this shithole country.
They already are, technically. They just don’t have a voice on who their leader can be.
If the US is willing to adopt a Westminster parliamentary system, the Canadian charter of Rights, official bilingualism (or, well, trilingualism, because Spanish) and give up silly ideas like the 2nd Amendment and life tenure of SC justices, something could be worked out. What do you mean no?
Don’t forget health care.
(Charter of rights is a sham, nothing in it but removable privileges, it’s very obvious the person who wrote it wasn’t much for actual rights, and legal scholars back then decried this)
It was a subtle declaration of war the first time he brought it up. After repeating it a dozen more times, we really shouldn’t be ignoring this as a country.
The United States under Trump is a foreign threat with hostile intentions.
He literally just said he wants to take over Canada by “economic force”, I wish any articles included the full quote/context though.
At this point anyone advocating for or supporting Trump in Canada is guilty of high treason against Canada.
I better hit the gym and get back in shape just in case…
I’ve been losing weight all winter so far by fasting. Built a home gym out of used stuff off locals. Next is navigating that whole gun ownership thing I ignored my whole adult life thus far, and signing up for training. My mom’s friend teaches at a Canadian Tire that has a gun range.
I’m getting prepared for hard times, whatever they bring. Hopefully not the USA invades Canada scenario. We’d get rolled.
Canadian Tires have gun ranges???
They once said that Ukraine would get absolutely rolled by Russia within 3 days, 2 weeks tops.
Never underestimate a pissed off underdog, especially when fealty to the US President is nowhere near as “strong” / co-opted as in the Russian Federation.
Conventionally Canada wouldn’t last more than a week. Unconventionally, the insurgency and resistance would tear America to peices. for the same reason Russia’s plan for Ukraine was braindead and unfeasible.
When the cultures and appearance of two peoples who are each others neighbors are virtually indistinguishable, the resistance will tear the occupying apart from within. Ukraine has the benefit of having Europe on its border to flood them with Arms, Canada wouldn’t have that luxury, the Government would surrender quite quickly, and be replaced with a Quisling government, However resistance against the occupation, the Americans wouldn’t know what to do as they’d spend just as much time accidentally hunting their own people, (and lets be real, if something like this happened, America would de-facto already be in a state of civil war as large population centers revolt against a Fascist autocracy that’s attacking its own people and America’s historical allies and friends for no other reason than plain old fascism)
Hit the ripper and upgrade your chrome, chrome.
That stupid Nazi fuck may discover just how vicious Canadians can get when defending their country.
I just hope we don’t get to that point.
If that were true, it wouldn’t be the mess it is today.
It’s not a war crime the first time…
And damn if we aren’t ready to be great authors of the next Geneva convention update
Why are we giving a fuck about this guy?
Because he is taking the helm of the most dangerous country of the West
And we know exactly what he is about. They’re just fueling the facist fire. There is a point where it becomes just more propoganda and that has happened long ago. This article has come up in CBC at least 3 times in the past several weeks.
If I was a CBC editor, I would tone it down, yes. If that’s what you meant, then I agree that we don’t have to platform every little media bait he tweets. But here’s Lemmy, there’s no editorial.
internet and tv rotted peoples brains, been that way for about 10-15 years now. people cant help themselves
Because, believe it or not, we can’t just toss these statements like they don’t matter. The leader of a world superpower, both military and economically, is threatening our sovereignty.
No he isn’t. He is directing our political choices as he does, with statements that enrage and divide.
There is little growth left in the US. The natural resources are allocated, the population rinsed for $2 for every $1 they earn. National debt runs at numbers that are practically unimaginable by humans.
What is an expansionist empire to do ?
It’s not coincidence he’s talking about Canada, Greenland in this way. The oligarchs have been going after Europe for a decade.
These aren’t the ramblings of an idiot . It’s Americas plan.
Manifest Destiny has been America’s plan since it won the war for independence from Britain.
Canada Mexico Panama Greenland now president Musk is talking about freeing the UK. America is on the war path it seems. I think the world is going to be blind sided by this. Europe should get off of US tech. Everything the US says about China is something they can do also.
This, Greenland… What is Trump’s obsession with trying to get more territory? Is he trying to start a war with someone? Does he think if the country is at war he can postpone the next election?
Or is he just copying daddy Putin? Insisting
UkraineCanada wants to be part ofRussiathe US and that makes it okay to go “Liberate” Canada…They’re physically large territories so the map looks very impressive, especially with the Mercator projection.
This is the man who redirected a hurricane with a sharpie. I don’t think there’s any more to it.
Maybe Canada will give the bankers and stock traders more thievingsraum?
In essence Trump is trolling, and people are falling for it. The distraction campaign is working.
This ‘outrage’ trolling is being used as a starting point for constant recycling of political and economic talking points.
Even if he’s trolling, when you’re THE world military and economic superpower and you’re making such statements about a country’s sovereignty, you have to take this shit seriously. In addition, he’s clearly making fun of Canada for not being a military and economic superpower like them. And that’s a clear display of his psychopathic personality. Not sociopathic, but psychopathic. He seeks control over others. He thrives for it. He loves to make people run around and sit and beg. And when he can’t get what he wants, he lashes out at you.
Psychopath.
Putin’s his master and handler. If the United States throws the high ground away and starts gobbling up neighbouring nations, it becomes that much easier to say “the West does it too”.
Trudeau resigned from the most powerful position in the country solely to not have to deal with that orange buffoon’s BS one second more than he has to.
Bullshit. I firmly believe that no one in Trudeau’s organization cares one whit about that troll, nor would feed it if given a chance.
Trudeau bailed because of internal trolling from the same ‘mean girl’ opposition which has focused more on his appearance than anything else this entire time, which has been building the misinformation campaign that WILL influence voting.
Essentially, he bailed so the scumbag cons had less to distract us from the issues, like the horribly American platform the cons are offering, as usual. Only by focusing the message on that can we convince the facebook-addicted hillbillies to actually vote IN their own best interests instead of electing conservatives.
I still have little hope for Saskatchewan.
Sorry there is no way the liberals or ndp win the next election.
There is still the bloc. Érable-flavoured national socialism is infinitely more tolerable than submitting to american imperialism.
A Polish proverb, referring to Russia, that came back into relevance during the invasion of Ukraine.
“The Rubble is preferable to your dominion”
it’s transferable here, too
That could have played a big part in his decision. But he’s also very unpopular across Canada. He’s hoping they might choose a new face that the people will love, but I doubt it would solve anything at this point.
US deficits/debt are too high to be sustainable. Low taxes come with high health insurance costs. The threat of Russia/China has always been complete BS, but they are not “surrounding us constantly”
The best reply to this asshole would be to openly talk of US states joining Canada as a province. Or to have a constitutional convention with 50 states to decide which 2 countries to form.
We can also offer to trade with China/Russia/others more to lower any trade surpluses we have with US.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine. And China would simply flood our market with their stuff and ruin us.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine.
Believing Russia instigated war is a lie that make Canadians worse than a 51st state. We are a NATO colony. Canadian media discussion of responses to this is that “we need to desperately buy more (3% of gdp) broken F35s to defend the Arctic, and be the front line on war on China” and futher acts of pure sycophancy.
Canadians trusting our CIA allegiant colonial figurehead politicians and media is core to our subservience. Defense pacts with other nuclear powers is best way to have US focus on US-Canada mutual prosperity instead of their destruction and collapse. 51st state, even with the minimal democratic representation that exists in a corrupt US, while less subservient than our current role, also condemns Canada to a worse collapse than US’s destiny. We need to be a brake on US empire instead of the willing sacrifice to the last Canadian that the CIA wants us to accept.
So far I’ve been flagging this guy and others as Tankies so I can quickly ignore them. My reasoning originally was that maybe they’d have something useful to say in other topics so it was better than blocking and not seeing anything at all. At least I would know they’re here and not get out of touch.
I’m really questioning this stance now though. They never have anything good to say and are so obviously propagandists. What are you guys doing?
You need to think for a bit: What does a war on Russia and then China gain for you? If you want to know propaganda, consider what makes you so devoted to that future.
I don’t have to play any of your games or answer your new question. We can start and end with your statement that Russia didn’t start the war in Ukraine. This isn’t some long forgotten detail of the past, it’s recent and the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
That is the pure propaganda disinformation that fuels your own delusion.
in 2014, US led coup put their chosen nazis in power, passed Apartheid laws, and with US funding had nazi battalions start civil war bombings in Donbas, and massacred anti nazi protestors in Odessa. Russia has been trying to solve Ukraine peacefully since 2014. The only condition for war in Ukraine to continue is that Ukraine must be a western puppet meant to diminish/terrorize Russia in perpetuity.
When you call reality Russian propaganda, you’re simply misinformed and in state of manipulated confusion. Seems clear that being 51st state is distasteful to both simpletons and informed, but for the simpleton, staying a bitch of the US empire must be defended even more, and war on Russia who’s most optimistic possible outcome is nuclear strikes on simpletons, for which the simpletons will still be cheering for,
Calling reality, opposing the extreme political corruption in subservience to US empire’s demonism, tankie/extreme left, is bodysnatchers level of sycophancy.
Like I said, complete delusion. I’m not some empty headed, cable news watching, USA can do no wrong simpleton. I can see the propaganda that the US puts out and how they meddle in foreign affairs. I also see the propaganda Russia puts out, and you are guzzling it.
There’s no point in continuing this, I won’t reply again to a tankie troll.
It’s what actual left wing extremism looks like, as opposed to whatever the US is pretending it is.
Homie touch some grass.
If you submit to US empire on its warmongering projects and genoicde, you are doomed to a worse fate than being their 51st state.
He obviously hasn’t thought it through. As one state, with a proportionate number of congressmen and electoral college votes, Canada would end up as the anti-Texas, dragging the political centre of gravity well into a Democratic majority. A Trumpist annexation would have to split Canada into two states, Alberta and the rest, as to gerrymander the outcome.
canada as a state and voting left, all else the same wrt u.s. presidential election process…
canada would have two senators, increasing the senate to 102 members. and in a reapportioned house, receive 44 seats, ‘taking’ 5 from california; 4 from tx; 3 from fl; 2 ea from il, ny, nc, pa; 1 ea from al, az, co, ct, ga, in, ks, ky, md, ma, mi, mn, mo, mt, ne, nj, oh, or, ri, sc, tn, va, wa, wi.
using 2024 state results (note: figuring ne and me would basically cancel each other out anyway and to keep my 2-minute spreadsheet simple, i just left those two states all-or-nothing), and assuming the great commonwealth of canada, now a u.s. state, would vote left…
looks like it woulda been 287 for r, 253 for d; with 271 needed to win.
just adding a state doesn’t change how electoral college votes are distributed, it’s still heavily skewed in favor of low-pop states because states get equal representation in the senate regardless of population. remember each member of congress… that’s house + senate… gives their state one ec vote. that’s why the hypothetical here doesn’t change the overall outcome.
if each province became a state instead… things might get ‘interesting’, then.
Don’t forget the territories
If Canada agreed to become the 51rst state, by that time it’d be Texas.
You mean that country that regularly elects Conservative majorities, with a lower overall population than California?
Assuming they have the grace to make us all citizens and allow us to vote. I’m not holding my breath.
Don’t worry I think that pesky voting process is a thing of the past.
At least we’d be a state unlike poor Puerto Rico
Gotta love checks notes taxation without representation?
It might happen if pollievre gets elected. Conservatives are little America worshippers.
The Bloc Québécois might start getting elected outside Québec to form its own country… with other provinces.
You know, I would consider them if they ran outside of Quebec. Francophone issues make no difference either way to me.
Quebec nationalists spent all this time thinking about Quebec independence from Canada, when they could have been talking about the Quebecization of Canada instead. I’m here for it.
Tabarnak, in a good way!
It’s getting to the point where I don’t think dicking around on internet forums is good enough. Every time trump repeat the phrase “51st state” it gets a little more serious. We need to start organizing irl like, yesterday.
Yeah. We have to start having discussions with our family and relatives. We can’t keep politics out of conversations anymore. Anyone who plans to vote conservative needs to be convinced otherwise.
I hate how vague that always is. Specific ideas: Join the military, annoy your MP, volunteer for a political party. If it’s America that we’re worried about none of the edgelord stuff applies anyway.
I’m thinking more along the lines of we might not be able to trust our government (and therefore military) to do the right thing, independent of who wins the election.
It would be wise to put together some type of organization (reserve militia?) to be prepared for that contingency.
Riiight, because that’s easier, and can be trusted more than the democratically controlled military we already have. I’m sorry, that’s one of the edgelord things I was talking about.
What military?
If only anyone had access to guns actually useful in an invasion. I wouldn’t even face off against a herd of feral pigs with a legal gun. Have fun with a five shot pinned SKS or an old bolt action 308 facing off a military
Bet you don’t though.
