• 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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        who gets to decide who’s avowed gender is “trolling”? what’s the potential harm there? “oh no i called a person on the internet by pronouns they asked for but don’t use irl, oh noez i have been owned”.

        versus handing phobes a pretense to misgender anyone they please, which honestly feels like the point of all this.

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          When US politicians are trying to put trans people in camps as a political tool it’s not funny or cute to have animal people or “minor attracted people” trying to include themselves in the groups of legitimately oppressed people.

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            not picking and choosing whose identity is valid is the backbone of this movement, fuck outta here trying to sandbag the most marginalized among us by trying to associate queerness with pedophilia.

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              Nobody is trying to make associations. These trash trolls hover around our communities looking to exploit our openness and YOU pretending like they don’t exist makes sensible people not want to keep sharing this space.

              When you tell me to respect all pronouns but those people also have pronouns then no, i am not going to respect the pronouns of trolls. And anyone who actually supports trans people should expect them to have to associate with people LARPING as an actually opposed person.

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                your other account is banned from here for trolling. does that make it acceptable to misgender you and add “and also pedophiles” whenever i refer to you or your identity?

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                    it’s a troll, the pedophilia accusations are a red herring to make the target (me) defensive. nobody had anything to say about the topic until this person decided to start adding “and [euphamism for pedophiles]” when referring to xenogenders.

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        It doesn’t matter if they’re trolls or not. In this instance, you respect the communication preferences of everyone present. If you find someone’s behaviour to be problematic, you block them and/or report them to the mods. It doesn’t give you or others a free pass to treat them as less deserving of respect than anyone else here.

        If that’s an issue, feel free to leave.

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            Nice strawman there. What I actually said was:

            It doesn’t matter if they’re trolls or not. In this instance, you respect the communication preferences of everyone present. If you find someone’s behaviour to be problematic, you block them and/or report them to the mods. It doesn’t give you or others a free pass to treat them as less deserving of respect than anyone else here.

            If you have an issue with someone’s behavior, block and report them. Their bad behavior doesn’t magically give you a free pass to do whatever you want without repercussions.

            I don’t know why this is like high level calculus for some people.

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          it’s a very simple concept, and it’s both hilarious and depressing how apparently divisive it is. fun how many “allies” and fellow queers are in a rush to play the “hysterical trans person” card and pretend we’re talking nonsense.

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            What blows my mind is they’re repeating the cycle of oppression.

            Cishet dominant society arbitrated what was “okay” for gender/sexual preference and we all had to claw our way into some measure of acceptance. Now ostensibly LGBTQ+ members are pulling a “fuck you, got mine” and drumming up excuses to exclude the outgroup that makes them feel icky. Just like always, the focus is on the outliers: supposed pedos, very unconventional pronouns, furries, etc. It’s giving me flashbacks.

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              if you keep them talking eventually they’ll admit their motives in the form of an accusation, like that other person who was ranting for paragraphs about various queer people getting off on feeling superior, while calling people insane for respecting identities that person feels are beneath respect.

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            In real life trans people are being targeted as political scapegoats.

            On the internet we whine about trans people not accepting “dog” as a gender and calling it trolling because they face actual oppression IRL.

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              hi, i’m one of those trans people, and i’ve been through absolute hell, physically, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. don’t hide your bigoted shit-tier take behind my struggle.