• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    After a history of ethically questionable jobs, I thought I had escaped it into something almost benign where we were only wasting the money of other companies.
    Recently we started going balls deep into making AI products, and I feel very uncomfortable with it

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    brah. You will merely break many peoples bodies with explosives in the name of capitalism, corruption and colonization.

    At my job I corrupt entire countries full of children, starting at an early age. I run user bucket targetting experiments on them to get them to spend more and steer them to befriend “friends” I select for them to optimize some pennies for our network edge performance. The measurements and manipulation of their vulnerabilities never stops. I take high resolution scans of their faces that we can use for the rest of their life to identify them anywhere–all so they can change their face to be an animated fox face, or stuff like that. I hope authoritarians never get ahold of this info because that could be bad for these consumers/kids, but hopes and prayers are not exactly my job. We never delete their info because parents click through the terms of service to shut their kids up. We say we educate kids to learn to program but inside the company that concept is spoken of mockingly.

    I measure and steer their temperament and engagement with new games that are open to their worst impulses, and keep them on the treadmill. I transcribe and save literally every single word they utter. I analyze those spoken words for sentiment, and to build an ongoing model of which bucket they belong in to maximize their spending. The loaner? the helper? the team player? authority truster? authority abuser? rule driven, rule antidriven? I have loot, friends, new games, and contrived self serving “bugs” for all of them to find and think they are exploiting the games without my knowing.

    I teach them to get addicted to loot boxes and I arbitrage endorphin hits between their peers and from the game. I give them their entire range of their lifes highs and lows. The best and worst times of their short lives are things I hand out. The later at night it is, or the longer their session, the more loot I give them to keep them playing. Like an IV drip of drug where sometimes you need to squeeze the bag to push more through to feel that hit strongly even when exhausted, and get them to defy their parents’ calls for them to sleep.

    You think darkness is your issue. But you merely adopted the dark for a paycheck; I was born into it right out of school, moulded by it. I didn’t see socially useful internet services till I was an old man, by then it was nothing to me but a different way to drive engagement and raise the value on my rsus. My legacy will be a path of human wreckage and misery, same as yours only much bigger.

  • Noble Shift@lemmy.world
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    After I left Boeing, I made a pledge to never work for or belong to any groups that create weapons. Thankfully the X-32 failed and I got out when I did.

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      Literal career assassins? Could this dumb world get THAT cyberpunk?

      Headline: “Another accounting assassin, another salaried slayer, another rich revolutionary, leaves employer headless while leaving $300K savings account to save babies with cancer”

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    I had a job offer from Cambridge Analytica, they were up front about the work they were doing as well as the pay. Though it was tempting to sell my soul for the pay, even I have my limits.

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      I had an interview with a “mass email” provider. By the time I left it was clear to both of us that no way in hell.

      Is it bad that I consider this much worse than a defense company? Lockheed has some cool tech and help protect my country, at the huge cost of killing so many. Cambridge Analytica indiscriminately attacks people’s privacy, all people, and for profit with no hint at a good purpose

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        I’m sure I still don’t appreciate that historically speaking the world has been quite a dangerous place.

        I’m not a fan of dead kids or rich men sending the young to die for them, but I cannot deny my lifestyle significantly benefits from the fact top military spenders align with my ideology. (e.g. I’m better off with a powerful USA than North Korea)

        Would be interesting if a new generation of principled Americans were responsible for a change where defense contractors knew to attract modern talent they had to provide assurances against outputs being used for evil. I’m naïve enough to think that might be possible.

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      Not twisting your arm, but I always wonder what my limit is, and if they added more to it.

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    5 months ago

    Currently have a contractor offer from NASA I’m probably going to turn down for a mom and pop electrical repair company lmao

    Doesn’t take much to be principled.

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        More or less the same you’d have working for Grumen or Lockheed. NASA wind tunnels were often critical tools in developing more efficient drone designs, for example. The product is the data, and you get no say in how that data is used.

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        Boing makes the Apache, B52 which have killed a hell of a lot of people. Cough enola gays B29 cough.

        Boeing definitely has killed far more than Lockheed Martin aircraft on purpose

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      Or looks up to Boeing

      Although some companies like Boos Allen and NSO group blow both Lockheed Martin and Boeing out of the water.

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        That’s actually just something people who sell out their morals say to make themselves feel better. There are absolutely people who don’t have a price. It’s not particularly many and society and those in power are generally able to deal with them in other ways, but there are in fact people who stick to their lines in regards to money.

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        No they don’t.

        I could earn double my low salary working for say a gambling company, but I’d rather make less and not propagate misery from predatory industries.

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          Bang on. Right there with you.

          I’m working on becoming a game developer but I live in a place chock full of casinos, so looking up “games company” on a map is very disappointing here.

          They can sure pay well sometimes, though. The temptation is real. But I really couldn’t have any sort of passion for even sweeping their floors, much less constructing flashier products that merely serve to more-efficiently short circuit people’s rational thinking into emptying their wallets.

          I think the loud secret is that these “games” thrive on desperation en masse, rather than the comparatively few wealthy and “responsible gamblers.”

          I don’t judge the plenty of good folks who make a living doing it because they need to make a living, but I’d rather struggle more towards something I can believe in that doesn’t compromise my soul or contribute to ruining anybody’s life.

          Now if only high moral standards could pay the bills…

          Oh well, I’ll just keep remembering Matthew 6:26 :)

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                  Looking at how badly I am getting down voted, I am afraid to say anything too controversial. I have probably been reported several times for being correct.

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                That’s not what you said

                You said a company would threaten someone’s family to force them to work for that company. I am not aware of any time in recent history that a company has done this.

                Obviously a large corporation would kill people and they do.

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                  Do you need specific threats or will just the threat of death due exposure and or starving death because you can’t pay for food or shelter?

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        I’d make way more money in defense. I’ve actively avoided it in my career. I spent one summer at LM as an intern. Never went back.

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              I think you’re trolling me because you don’t have a good counter argument and you are mad.

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                I’m not mad, I however think you are concocting absurd hypotheticals to make yourself feel better for some reason.

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                  I feel great right now. But I am concerned I may have to make a choice between providing for my family or making excellent software for lockheed martin at some time in the future. My price is my family’s well being and that isn’t really a secret.

  • WhatSay@slrpnk.net
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    5 months ago

    Remember, you are just a cog in a machine, it just happens to be a death machine.