• LittleBorat3@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Yes, the option to just throw it in the corner and not charge it anymore.

    Or to uninstall all your shitty apps.

    • x0chi@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      How calls were expensive…

      How music hobby was expensive and nowadays you got the world music collection for less than 10 euro per month…

      How we had to pay a few euros per movie when going to the video club to get a movie. And that would imply moving there to get it, moving there to return it. Nowadays I pay less than 10 euro per HBO max…

      How we had to get into a public library to get some info on something and always would come very short, specially on some themes…

      How electronic equipment was way more expensive and did way way less.

      And this… And that… And this… And that…

    • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      If you teach yourself to use swype typing on Gboard it can be almost as fast as a keyboard to type. Of course that’s a Google product though blah blah blah.

      • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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        6 months ago

        It’s good and better than typing on a dumb screen, but it still sucks compared to a real keyboard, especially when I want or need to type non-words. PTBR also has many words that use “ss” or “rr”, with similar words with only a single s or r, so I often have to manually type anyway.

  • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    Add in ruined music to that. Shitty speakers, super lossy codecs to preserve cellular bandwidth, even shittier Bluetooth compression, listening to music on a phone is convenient but it sounds like shit. And we’ve got generations of people who think that’s what music is supposed to sound like.

    • MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Unless you have a Sony phone or an LG V series phone. The DACs on those are incredible (for phones at least)

  • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I’m prepared for the downvotes knowing where I’m posting.

    If you hate it that much, why are you using it? It’s a tool. It’s useful. It also allows you to overindulge, but that says more about you than the tool.

    • timestatic@feddit.org
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      7 months ago

      I would say that it is also a fault of the device if it encourages this brain-dead overindulgence that is clearly of the interest of many big advertisement companies. You can choose a device and OS tho and install apps that lessen the effect, but an simpler phone might not have all the bells and whistles but can get you quite far without offering such a possibility to lose hours off your brain just turned off.

    • Lauchs@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      A lot of those are problems caused by phones regardless of whether one uses one themselves.

      But for the personal ones, there are self aware addicts of all kinds. Smokers know cigarettes are killing them, complain about them, sometimes even hard them can’t stop.

      • Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        That’s a fair and well measured response. It begs the question of what we can do as individuals, and when it comes to smart phones I don’t think there’s much.

        • Lauchs@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          Thanks, I basically agree with you.

          Like most of the tragic collective action problems (phones, climate change, sweatshops etc) I’m just trying to moderate as best I can for my own soul/health and try not to be too sad about it.

    • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca
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      7 months ago

      I don’t have one, I’m browsing from my computer. I still go through all the inconveniences listed above and some more. Checkmate, smartphone user.

    • Zloubida@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Smartphones are using me more than I use them. I hate them, and love them, and hate that I love them.

    • ch00f@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      As someone who carries around a flip phone on purpose, it’s not impossible to live without a smartphone, but it’s getting more challenging.

      Ticketmaster now requires a smartphone. You can’t print tickets. Which means I can no longer go to baseball games.

      So far, that’s the only thing I’ve found that’s a hard block, but many other things are certainly not designed for the phone impaired.

      • sifr@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Which flip phone do you use? I have a Sunbeam Mobile phone which is nice, but I have found it unsustainable in some ways.

        • ch00f@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          That’s actually the model I’m using at the moment. I started out with LightPhone2, but I was frustrated not being able to get images, and I didn’t like the keyboard.

          Sunbeam has been ok, but it definitely has problems. For some reason, T9 will always chose a name before any other word. So if I type “Any,” the first two suggestions are “Amy” and “Cox.” I reached out to the devs about this, and they said it’ll “learn” what your most used words are, but it hasn’t done that for me. Also, the keyboard seems to be a bit laggy and misses some keypresses.

          It doesn’t help that I also spilled beer on it once which made the touch screen really wonky.

          I was thinking about upgrading to a LightPhone3, but there are a few smartphone things I wouldn’t mind bringing back (like Ticketmaster for example). I preordered a Minimal phone, and I’m hoping to lock it down to just messaging, specific apps (like my car key), and no web browser.

    • FiskFisk33@startrek.website
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      7 months ago

      For someone sharing OP’s opinion, simply “not using it” wouldn’t solve anything. Most of the problems OP lists is stems from that people in general use them.

      I’m not saying you should agree with OP, but your argument misses the point.

    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      I don’t use it. At all. But nevertheless I still have to deal with people constantly telling me that I need to use their ‘app’, and or only giving information in the form of a QR code. I still have to navigate around zombie-people staring at their phones while they walk around. I still have to deal with the fall-out of bad online interactions that kids have had. and so on. The attention-span issue that the green-text mentions results in a dumbing-down of news and media and basically all kinds of information sharing…

      This stuff negatively affects me in obvious and measurable ways, even though I don’t use any of the features of this ‘tool’.

    • deikoepfiges_dreirad@lemmy.zip
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      7 months ago

      the guy exclusively lists cultural phenomena. how would not using a phone personaly solve any of these?

      “It’s just a tool” is such an ignorant statement in general. The tools we use have been shaping or culture for thousands of years. There is no choice not to take part in the current state of humanity. “It’s just a tool” is what people who want to sell you their technology tell you to make you forget about the effects it can have on a bigger scale.

    • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      7 months ago

      I myself feel conditioned to have it over a dumb phone. Companies and people assume that you have one, and the thing I find the most offending is obsessive QR overusage. I hate that.

      If it’s on a banner or in a document, it rarely ever have plain text address. They are on all of my bills, as mobile banking is popular and you are supposed to trust it and open it in your banking app lol (although it’s payment info in a specific format, not a web link). It’s also used in 2FA\registration for apps and you can’t login into popular messengers without scanning a pattern and my workplaces used some of them for all internal communications. And whenever I scan anything or refuse, I see them everywhere, this sharp b\w noise that is not a part of a human world, but rather meant for machines. These technological shenanigans occupying the visual landscape is probably why I can jump from not wanting a smartphone myself to disliking others having them. And with how it locks you from pretty essential things I can see the next step is having government services only availiable in Zuckerberg’s Metaverse. That’s when I’d call quit on that fuckyverse.

      /rant

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
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        6 months ago

        I think QR codes are cool because it’s literal computer data in ink. You can draw a QR code with a pencil if you know how to encode the data. It’s like a punch card, a physical manifestation of digital data.

        However using a QR code is really freaking annoying, especially if you have a cheaper phone. I always configure my phone to only show the encoded string and not click the links because fuck normalizing blindly clicking links

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          I used one of those promos to get a bunch of free stickers made and I did a QR code to lemon party with my friend’s Instagram at the bottom. I travel a lot for work so I was going to post them up everywhere. Unfortunately I got them printed in yellow which made the QR code not work.

        • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          6 months ago

          I find them really fascinating, especially their error-correcting, but I do find them weird occupying every banner without any alternative and trashing our human world with too much of them, outside of the discussion of them being too much needed for functioning in our society.

    • Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I just got a new phone and someone asked me “do you like it?” I hesitated to answer and they assumed “that’s a no”. Well, not really, it works well and does what I need it to. But do I like it? Not really, its a tool of necessity for operating in modern society. I like my steam deck, I like my speakers, I like my bike, but liking my phone is sort of similar to liking my work laptop. It’s just a thing I have to have or be really very inconvenienced.

    • GHiLA@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      Yep. Ignore you downvotes. They’re just zoomers with Stockholm syndrome.

      A standalone camera would be a better camera. A standalone media player would be a better media player. Emulation handhelds are better gaming systems.

      Paper-weights don’t even have batteries. Checkmate, phones.

      Phones are useless for anything but making sure you’re abiding by your state-mandated privatized surveillance of choice and if I could carry around a tiny Linux laptop with cellular integration and use it instead, I probably would.

  • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Ruined these things for you maybe. I still enjoy them. And don’t use my phone for most. One of the things I live about the phone is being able to communicate with my friends and family I want. I also enjoy having the majority of the worlds information available to me. Ooooo and music. Soooo much music at my fingertips.