I’m very surprised anyone in this community would actually believe this. As several of the cross posts detail, India has better worker protections than this. It’s almost guaranteed fake. Also the text doesn’t match up across the screenshot so it looks photoshopped in some way.
Well there are a few stories on it so far. Guess we will find out if real in the next few days.
As detailed in the cross post, all those stories just reference one source. It’s functionally useless information.
Please tell me this is fake. Please?!?!!??
True story: I once worked for a startup where the head of HR kept a spreadsheet he called his “naughty and nice” list. For every employee he had a score that boiled down to “risk to the company”. He would send out surveys like this and say things like “your feedback is strictly confidential”, then use the responses to determine people’s scores. Of course other things like any kind of complaint he overheard went into it too.
It’s India. Of course it’s not fake.
Not that this wouldn’t happen, but for me the screenshot looks a bit edited (though I’m just viewing on my phone): look at the clarity of the text in the email, then at the signature and logo. Might be that somebody just swapped out the text in an image editor.
It seems that it’s most likely an out-of-touch marketing stunt. The company, Yes Madam, is apparently launching some sort of corporate wellness program type thing so they are likely going to pivot this publicity into “Treating employees like that would be awful right?! But companies do have stressed employees and should take care of them with…blah”.
I hope it fully backfires and they go out of business.
EDIT: It just hit me that they are going to say “We didn’t have a single employee who indicated stress on the survey, because we take care of our employees.”
@[email protected] you were correct. it’s nice to be vindicated but annoying that the internet will never stop falling for obvious bait like this.
Additionally, the company introduced a ‘De-stress Leave Policy’, allowing employees to avail up to six paid leaves annually for mental health and rejuvenation
Wow, such generosity! Also, they did write that they are ‘family’ in the statement 🌚
And “in home massages” where that means the CEO will come over and massage you if you are pretty and they have a fake promotion to dangle over them.
Nope. This is real and the company straight up fired over 100 people.
Check again…it was a publicity stunt.
The only thing I could find is that Yes Madam is a real company and that the sender is indeed the HR head of that company. So if it’s fake, someone kept the header and signature of a real email. Or maybe a real email sent on April 1st? I have a hard time believing that this is real (not that a company wouldn’t do this, but the fact that they would admit to it so blatantly like it’s not a bad thing).
There’s a news article linked in another comment.
It was real, and 100 people were fired.
In response, YES Madam stated on LinkedIn, apologising for any distress caused by the campaign. The company stated that it “would never take such a step” and that the action was intended to draw attention to the critical issue of workplace stress. source
I don’t even know what you were citing, but now that the news is out let this be a lesson to not just take everything in the news for granted. All the slop outlets were just reading the same screenshot in this post verbatim and did no original reporting.
Years ago I heard this story about a company in India that held a fire drill. Once everybody was gathered outside, they made the announcement that for about a third of them their key cards wouldn’t work anymore because they were fired. My colleagues from India at the time said that sounded very real.
Don’t need India for stories like that: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uKsD_5GCY1Y
PirateSoftware Blizzard story
I had a coworker who had this happen at a former search company in the US.
It’s a disgusting and utterly tone deaf marketing stunt then
And they just included them all in the ‘to’ instead of bcc. Very professional.
That email is company wide, not specific to those fired
It’s normally standard to send mass emails using BCC to avoid someone using the Reply All button to spam up people’s inboxes.
Totally - just pointing out that implied in the first comment was those included in the email were the fired ones when that’s not the case
Ah you’re right, I missed the “impacted employees will receive” line. Tired skimming fails again.
Easy mistake to make - it wasn’t exactly front and center
Yes, but you always BCC large groups like that to prevent reply-all disasters.
I was once on a massive reply-all chain. Most of the emails were “stop replying all!” But one made me chuckle. “I like these emails it makes me feel important.”
I was once in a reply all email chain where one person got so irrate at everyone else that a subreddit was created just to post memes about this person. I wish I could remember the sub name, but it was years ago and the sub probably isnt there anymore anyway.
Reminds me of /fucktsarevich, a sub only for hating a particularly arrogant and unpleasant character in Genshin Impact…
It’s more the quest that’s the problem than the NPC.
The NPC has a repeatable quest that has a random really low chance of being available on each IRL day. It will become unavailable again the next day regardless of if you do it or not and if you were successful or not.
The quest has three different paths. Doing each path successfully at least once gives you an achievement that’s prob the hardest to get in the game, because of how low the chance of it spawning on a given day and you logging on to the game and checking if it is available that day are. And it has to be repeated at least three times (more if you fail the quest).
The rewards are negligible but completionists get understandably pissed off.
My favorite was when someone from HR finally replied and asked everyone to stop replying to all or else. Then one guy replied “Ok” to all.
100% - it’s obviously a company run by slack jawed morons but the original comment had assumed it was only those affected getting the email, which is a different context
Don’t ever engage with culture sensing surveys honestly. The only place they weren’t a trap (ironically) was the US Army where they did it on paper, punished people for putting their names on them, and walked right past your entire immediate chain of command to their bosses with the results. And the one time things were truly bad they literally brought in a Sociology expert to study our unit and figure out how things had gone bad, it resulted in all new leadership and team building exercises, in a war zone. (These results do not extend to other branches, I had one done by the Navy and it was corpo trap bullshit, got a lot of the Army guys there by surprise.)
I have always engaged with every one of them and have been negative quite often yet never anything bad came of it. Probably because we have employee rights where I live. So the actual problem is americas lacks of rights.
Or engage with them but expect the repercussions.
I’m very candid when this shit comes around my corp and am extremely nuanced in explaining the culture challenges.
The trick is to not explicitly call anyone out and highlight it’s a systemic problem.
In our corp, our managers get the answers and results without the names of employees that gave the answers. Did not see anyone regretting being honest on the survey yet.
I am wondering more and more if it is the corp I work for that is unusual, if it is because it is in the EU, not US (even though corp is US based), or if just the people with worst experiences are the most keen to share them…
There probably is a confirmation bias at work here. People with healthy workplaces are probably less likely to complain online?
Same that they anonymized the data but c’mon I know people writing style I could tell which coworker wrote what if they narrow it down enough like by department.
Yes and no. The survey is always scoring something 1-10 and then a text field on explanation/how to improve it. If you are too worried, you can just give the score. Even so, most people just fill them in normally and as I said, I did not see anyone regret being honest. But that is indeed likely partially because we are not in the US.
That’s a very fine line though. and you’re hoping they don’t fire you just for being the bent nail.
Oh I agree but thing is it’s principles for me. I spoke to a coworker recently about this in relation to a bad worker and if they should go to HR. My argument is I can’t rely on other people to speak about the challenges so it’s beholden on me to do that for those that may not want to take that risk.
It’s only a job. I make damn good money but if I got let go because of my principles that’s a good reason.
Yeah I’m with you on this one. All of these people saying “don’t say shit” think they are being smart (and I imagine most of them haven’t even been in the situation) but the reality is you are just making things worse for everyone else and getting fired after something like that is actually extremely uncommon because it’s very easy to point to and demand severance or just for making a lot of racket if that’s not an option.
It’s very easy to get laid off in the US. They don’t need to resort to such tactics. most of the time internal culture things are either ignored or decent people higher up make some small changes in their own departments/areas specifically. I find it’s a great way to subtly point to toxic leadership, especially if other people are doing it.
The last time I went to HR on toxic leadership it was very well known. I told them I’m the ideal employee. I’ve been here (at the time 10 years) rarely make a fuss. Never been to HR before. I had a well thought out letter explaining the challenges I was seeing and how toxic it was and how it was impacting myself and my coworkers.
They asked for names. I gave none. I told them they have the names (I had good info these people were well known). I explained that people are leaving the org, good people are not coming here. They need to address it. About 1+ year later there was a huge clearout of leadership then another a couple of years later. People who were well identified as toxic.
I like to think my speaking up helped with that, and I’m still here. More people need to stand on their principles damn the consequences.
Yeah it definitely has a “writing your congressional rep“ quality to it. Your one note or comment is rarely going to move the needle unless there is something truly illegal going on like workplace harassment that is undeniable, but when a lot of people keep bringing up the same issues/departments/people (maybe not explicitly) it can make a difference. Sometimes the squeaky wheel does get the oil lol
For those jumping in on this conversation, I am not saying it is always like this. I’m just saying it often is. Most companies operate at least somewhat practically when it comes to these things. They don’t want to hire new people, they don’t want inter-departmental strife. They don’t want projects not getting done because of toxic leadership. Beyond a certain threshold they often will act. Often it takes way too long and requires way too much from employees, but still, sometimes they act.
YMMV especially depending on the industry.
Lesson I learned the hard way: if any study comes around on your satisfaction, don’t answer it. If management comes asking why you haven’t answered the study, apologize, you’ve been swamped, you’ll get get right on it, and you lie your ass off.
I worked for a youuuuuuge international corporation that did a survey in the late 1990s.
They took them extremely seriously and trained and replaced the poor performing leadership.
It led to a big jump in profits.
I’m glad someone is using it correctly then.
The stressed employees were almost certainly the high performers lmao
And when output and production drop 35% next quarter, you can be damn sure they’ll whip out the “We’re a family here!!!” talk as they announce even more layoffs to pad the bottom line.
This is hilarious
I doubt the people who’s kids are going to starve because they were so stressed at work agree with you on that.
I doubt they’ll eat any better by you telling him off.
Big if true
Jesus Christ.
Wow, that’s not bullshit in the slightest. Is it legal to do this there? I mean it’s technically illegal here in America but employers can always come up with a bullshit excuse. Worse, if you live in San “at will” state, they can fire you with NO reason.
Last time I was in Bangalore there was an 80% completed, multi-story downtown building that ‘didn’t exist’.
It’s not the laws that matter, it’s who you know.
Watching Mike Okay videos, even things that aren’t legal seem to be commonplace. The video where he visited a small jeans factory in a crawlspace above another shop that had ladder access, and where the off-dity employees slept on the floor underneath the workbenches where other workers were working, a small room with ceilings so low he had to stoop, that gave me the heebie jeebies
Whenever I talk to an Indian about politics, the one thing they always mention is how bad corruption is in India. So I doubt that, even if it is illegal, they’ll face any repercussions, so long as they’ve padded the pockets of the right person.
I don’t know much about Indian laws and work culture, but many Indians I spoke to mentioned the work culture in their country is highly toxic. They prefer to work in American and Western companies instead of Indian-grown companies.
Honestly the name of their company is the more shocking part.
tips fedora
M’lady Services Limited
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No one was firebombed at YesMadam!
To my Lemmy family and community,
I sincerely apologize for any distress caused by my recent social media post calling for the firebombing of YesMadam’s corporate headquarters. Let me be clear: I would never take such an inhuman step. I deeply respect the value of all human life.
My social media post was a planned effort to highlight the serious issue of firebombing corporate headquarters. And to those who shared angry comments of voiced strong opinions, I say thank you. When people speak up, it shows they care.
Were YesMadam’s corporate headquarters really firebombed? Absolutely not.
This has got to be from The Onion… Right?
More like the onion banji
(Ba-dum tsh)
*bhaji
This is wow, I men we are used to a lot, but wow.
They also write “100% Purely Bhartiya Brand” on their (really terrible) page. I am not indian, so I might be wrong, but this raises some questionmarks.
If anyone has questions about what bhartiya means, it means Indian.
So the whole phrase means 100% purely Indian company. Equivalent to the phrase 100% purely American company.
If my business is local, buying from local suppliers as much as possible and employing local people it shouldn’t matter at all, if these local employees are ethnically the same and all have the same nationality.
So i would take it more as the former, ultra nationalist.
I do think it’s more likely to be the former.
But I wouldn’t take “100% American company” to mean all employees are American citizens. I would take it to mean that all employees are living in and working from the US. Which makes it more ambiguous than your interpretation of the phrase.
Yeah and the “100% purely American” would raise a lot of red flags for me…
Imagine firing all competent employees
looks at companies forcing RTO 👀
The stoner dudes high as balls 247 who don’t give a shit and are not stressed a bit: :DDD
stoner dudes high as balls 247 who don’t give a shit
Bro where do you work where this is not caught in the first interview
I’ve been high in most jobs I had, every now and then at least.
Not when driving a taxi, but we used to get insanely high for the night shifts at the taxi dispatch call centre where I also worked with the younger coworkers (<35) I had. As long as you get the necessary shit done, why’d anyone care? The night shifts were boring as fuck, you’d have like a few to a few dozen calls an hour. Meaning that mostly you’re just having to browse the web while waiting.
And Finns genuinely couldn’t even tell when I’m high as balls, the willfull ignorance in Finnish social interaction is quite strong.
As long as you get the necessary shit done, why’d anyone care?
I don’t, I just couldn’t imagine many work places where you’d work in a team or interact with clients or customers or coworkers where this type of thing would be accepted.
But ah, Finland ✅, and night shifts ✅, and younger crew with little to no management around ✅, still able to perform a not so crucial task requiring not a lot of brain power ✅. I’m all for it dude. Have fun while working, that’s the bomb. ❤️
Well, 25-30. But the older ladies at the dispatch smoked weed as well. Well few of them did. One liked opiates. Most drank.
I don’t work there anymore, but it’s somewhat complicated logistics. You arrange school rides for kids and patient rides to hospitals and have to make sure people aren’t late for their planes and trains leaving in the morning.
It’s just that for the first several hours, it’d be every calm during the night. Sometime around 4am people start leaving for trains, buses, planes. Then around 5-6 you have people going to hospitals. Sometimes they’re disabled and need a taxi that can fit a stretcher. Then it’s the kids after that.
But like some people like caffeine aa they feel they need more energy to perk up. It’s the other way around for me.
But yeah thanks though it was fun. I was kinda pissed during corona when they finally took remote work as my home workstation is far superior to what they were when I worked there, and I kept actually using a team viewer connection back then as well (~2012) so could’ve easily done the work from my home.
And yes you’d might wonder what sort of company allows an employee to install remote control software on their computers?
A small company with a large turnover which never understood their dispatch center or technology properly.
But like if you made a poll on some programming community here on how many of them work while high…?
I know softwares see developers in rather esteemed positions who smoke every day. Not all day necessarily but
I’m a software developer and, while I don’t smoke all day, I’m a night owl. Some days I’ll go to bed at 2 AM several nights in a row, and after that, I basically go a couple days where I don’t get anything done. So I might as well practically have been smoking all day being high as a kite. 😅
Often if you can make it past the first interview you don’t get caught unless a workers comp claim gets filed. The place I work we had people * in training* come in smelling like weed, a few others smelling like booze, and one came in very obviously high on coke. From what I remember the only one who got fired was for cursing someone out. Even past that, we’ve had a couple of members of leaderships who were alcoholics who regularly drank on the job, and there was always at least one person smoking in the parking lot.
All depends on employee tolerance and employer need, really.
I’ve seen this in upper management. Dude has zero f to give. I mean like drugs removed them.
Me: Mai dude building is on fire Dude: it’s fine only 16 flights of stairs. I’ll wait out the rush.
He never had sense of urgency.
