• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    14 days ago

    Oh there he is.

    You’re seriously telling me that suburban dwelling family of four is the same as an inner city single mother raising two kids?

    The whole point about classes is that different people have different outlooks based entirely on their socioeconomic situation you can’t pretend that doesn’t exist just because it’s not nice.

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      14 days ago

      You’re seriously telling me that suburban dwelling family of four is the same as an inner city single mother raising two kids?

      Yes. They are both working class. They both have to work to get money to live. They are both far more similar to each other than to a billionaire. The owning class doesn’t work for a living, they own for a living. They own things that let them take money from working class people.

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        14 days ago

        There’s not just two classes, there working class, middle class, and upperclass, which I suppose you could call the owning class.

        Yes the middle class also work, so perhaps a better name for the working class would be the laboring class, the names are not important, but the point is that working-class people tend disproportionately to have blue-collar jobs, and middle class people tend to have white collar jobs. They tend to work shorter hours for more money, and so have more disposable income.

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          14 days ago

          That kind of rhetoric is dangerous. If a white collar worker hears it, they might think they have class interests that oppose those of blue collar workers. And that might convince them to vote for conservatives who promise to oppress the working class and give tax cuts to the rich.

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            13 days ago

            It isn’t rhetoric, it is reality.

            If you are not prepared to face fact then you are part of the problem in fact you are pretty much the entirety of the problem.

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              13 days ago

              White collar workers don’t have significant class interests in opposition to blue collar workers. We all benefit from that which benefits the poorest of us. For example, when the minimum wage is raised, we all end up making more money than we did before. It’s not reality.

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                13 days ago

                White collar workers don’t have significant class interests in opposition to blue collar workers.

                Citation needed. You can look at votastats broken down by income and you can see that there is significant differences between the way people vote based on their economic status in fact their economic status is the greatest effector of how they would vote. You cannot state that social classes do not exist in the United States because they so demonstrably do.

                The reason the original comment is so massively downvoted is because it is so plaintively false.

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                  13 days ago

                  Yeah, that’s because the so-called middle class are brainwashed into voting against their class interests by propaganda. Or did you think Trump’s economic policy is a win for the middle class?

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                    12 days ago

                    Right so you admit that social classes in the United States do exist, something that you originally contested.