Its all his counterparts at the other insurance scams that I’m laughing at. Suddenly they are considering their actions have consequences they can’t control with more lawyers.
This is the thing.
While I doubt it’ll have any actual difference being seen by anyone anywhere, if this killing were followed up by a few more, or even a dozen more in short order, you would see change.
Most of it not the kind we’d hope for (tightened security, lockdown corridors for high profile individuals, even less access and interface with these people, etc…not concessions to decency, honesty, civility, humanity, etc.) but you bet your ass that it’d be living rent free in the back of every CEO and billionaire on the planet for a long time.
Call every crime tipline and report the person responsible for this death and many others - That person’s name was Brian Thompson.
Still reminds me of the time they sent out a sketch of the uni bomber and musician/professional jokester Weird Al did this
“You get what you fuckin’ deserve.”
The joker is the worst one to use here regardless of the universe you use. In that particular universe he’s more akin to the weird fucking red pill/mra movement than an anti capitalist since he was loosely based on Bernie geatz. It’s why the maga sphere went crazy for what was a series of terrible movies that they entirely miss the point of.
The core message of that movie was anti capitalist, with added messaging on the effects of a deteriorating quality of life/mental health system.
It’s really not though, it’s about modern moral failings and their outcomes that happen to have economic effects and notably none of the issues persued in the movie are exclusive to capitalist models.
The Batman universe is to some degree anti capitalist but the protagonist being one of the richest people in the planet who cannonically got that money by theft, violence and arms dealing kinda cancels that out.
You can read what you want into it but it specifically was not anti capitalist. It’s outright glorification of the Bernie geatz model, ie. A crybaby lower middle class white man who goes bat shit on the subway and blames literally everyone else but himself.
Similarly Bernie geatz was very much a capitalist.
Friend, I’m not gonna slam you because it’s clear your intentions are right, but you are misunderstanding the movie big time. I want you to watch it again and pay extra attention to the subway scene and who those people in the scene were.
I think you’re misunderstanding the movie friend and none of this was intended as a “slam” so I’m not sure why you would bring that up anyway.
I have no intention of rewatching either of those dumpster fires. I do love it that the right sees the Bernie goetz vigilante shit and goes “oh shit that’s the point! We gotta take these probably into our own hands!” And you get white nationalist mass shooters that reference the joker. The left goes “Oh shit this movie delves into the moral failings of a deeply sick modern society and also how money is evil… It must be anti capitalist!” It’s just not, it’s a case study on the moral failings of society through the eyes of the mentally ill, the fact you see it as anti capitalist is your mental illness and that’s the point of the movie.
I think the message is that there’s a thin line between the hero and the villain. The villain feels the same anger and desire for justice we all do. Just add a bit of delusion, and you can turn Gandhi into Hitler, or Batman into the Joker.
The lack of the joker’s line disturbs me.
Do I think it’s funny?
No, it’s just… interesting:
Hey look, karma
My theory is that it’s just that episode of Its Always Sunny from the new season. Dennis is placed on a customer service loop and eventually gets so frustrated with robot receptionists, scripted tier 1 support, and a system designed to waste our time and pit us against each other, that he tracks down the CEO of the car company at his beach house and rips his heart out of his chest and eats it.
So maybe someone should try that next time?
This can be the start of our revolution
It gives me hope that maybe the distant future doesn’t include a privileged class using the rest of us as free labor, fuel, and food…
It’s not funny it’s 🥾⏳
Boot time?
Say it like a Canadian. It’s aboot time.
I don’t think it’s funny, more like it feels good to see an atom of justice done for once. One murder changes nothing, it has no value as far as changing the system, but the symbolic value is through the roof.
Here’s the thing: even if we change the healthcare system tomorrow, they get to keep their billions. We can change the system, but there will be no justice because one of the principles of our legal system is that justice isn’t retroactive. So seeing one of the guilty parties killed is an example of retribution that is very rare and exhilarating.
Just not funny per se
Yeah, it’s heartwarming
one of the principles of our legal system is that justice isn’t retroactive
There have been plenty of cases in history where this didn’t hold.
King Charles I of England. King Louis XVI of France (not to mention the rest of his far-less-culpable family). Many prominent Nazis post-WWII. When society collectively decides that someone’s actions were heinous enough and caused enough harm, at a certain point a law can be created and applied retroactively, often on the grounds that there was a clear violation of some greater principle that should be self-evident.
I like how you missed the “our legal system” when giving examples entirely outside the legal system in which this killing took place.
Umm, no, not really? King Louis maybe, but the Common Law system used across most former UK colonies traces a line back to before King Charles’ execution, and the Nuremberg Trials were set up by the Allies (which prominently includes the US and UK) and form an important basis of 21st century international law.
I feel for his family and loved ones. I’m not celebrating his death. I’m just not surprised by it.
I’m celebrating it.
On a personal level, yeah it’s got to be a shock. On the other hand they profited off of the suffering of others. My empathy is limited.
Limited empathy is totally fine. Cheering for assassinations is a different thing ( not saying you did).
I wish the systems this dude profited from were changed. This guy will just be replaced, and the next one will have a security detail ($$$)
I dunno, I think this might really rattle a few people. It’s one thing to talk about social consequences like not being invited to garden parties or whatever, another entirely to be potentially killed.
I hope it does.
Right. The situation could directly correlate. The guy responsible for limiting access to physical and mental healthcare for millions was shot and killed in a premeditated murder. He’s fucking with millions of physically and mentally ill people. Granted, this is the most extreme repercussion for his actions.
He didn’t suffer as much as the pain he’s inflicted upon others. He also didn’t bankrupt his family in the process.
I can’t say this is the way I want society to run … but quite frankly I think we’re all sick of pretending that killing someone with a pen is any different than killing someone with a gun.
I think we’re all sick of pretending that killing someone with a pen is any different than killing someone with a gun.
Preach
I feel for the people who loved him. Not convinced he loved anyone but himself though
I doubt they lost any sleep knowing their dad killed thousands by denying them coverage. Why would i lose sleep for them? Hell, they are probably looking at a juicy life insurance payout, which is more than any of us will get when United kills our loved ones.
I don’t know but mabe his life insurance will deny it, given he had the pre-condition of being a shitbag CEO.
They should be fair to him, and roll percentile dice. If it rolls below a 33, the claim gets denied. You know, like UHC does with their “customers”
As cruel as it is, I can’t help but make the joke
Thoughts and prayers.
God was like: This guy has done enough
Well put.
I feel bad for his kids, seeing the country laugh and cheer at their father’s death.
He still earned it, though. Hopefully this inspires them not to follow in his footsteps.
I would be very scared to be the kid of a guy who was assassinated. You know they are the next target.
There’s no reason to think that his children would be targeted.
There is ever reason to assume the kids would not be Targeted? Killing one person may not satisfy everyone.
If the gunman was angry about healthcare, there is absolutely no reason that he would go for the children after killing the father.
There’s no logic to it.
There is no logic to rage
I feel bad for his kids, seeing the country laugh and cheer at their father’s death.
Yeah, well, maybe they’ll learn something from it and not go on to be horrible people themselves.
Are they going to donate all of his ill-gotten gains to a healthcare charity?
Been saying it since 🔔Limbaugh🔔. The idea that we need to pretend it isn’t a good thing when evil people die is some Disney channel bullshit
champagne
lol
I was thinking earlier… maybe all the lessons in the saturday morning cartoons were really intended to keep the masses from fighting back. I mean, no, the good guys don’t always win in the end. And cheating sure as hell does payoff. They want the masses to take the high road. While they tunnel through anything in thier way.
The evil ones die in tons of Disney movies. That’s where mostly the US of A got their brains washed and consequently celebrate a public execution without due process.
Yep, I sometimes really feel that that kind of people (you know what I mean) never progressed their morality past Disney cartoons that have it all dumbed down so that toddlers can grasp the concept of right and wrong.
Disney used to like killing their villains. These days, they make entire movies dedicated to the villain…
Yeah god dammit Moana that fucking monster.
At least they killed Thanos twice and smoked Snoke like he was nothing
I’m still upset we didn’t get anything about snokes back story. Why did he even exist if he was going to do nothing and then die
It shows how little they actually put effort in character building…
How can you declare that Snot or Snort or whatever his name is the master of an important character and then boom he’s dead…
It was so pointless…
Obi wan kenobi death was purposeful as you see he became stronger in death…
Stork… Or wait was it snork? Anyway that character didn’t even need to be in the movie…
Snooker. His name was Snooker.
He existed purely to develop Kylo. He got fridged.
Also, what he did do was create the First Order and challenge the whole galaxy, as well as coming up with the idea for Starkiller Base. He did the most out of anyone in the sequels but it was all offscreen. They told, not showed.
Boba Fett felt pretty unnecessary in the originals (literally any random bounty hunter could have been used) but at least he had one thing going for him: A cool suit. Snoke didn’t even have a cool suit. SMH.
Is anyone, not virtue signalling, truly upset by this? It looks like a good, but small beginning of a purge long overdue.
Upset? Maybe his wife or kids. If someone that disgustingly anti-social is even capable of faking a marriage and being a “father”.
The quotes are from his estranged wife. So he hasn’t held together a marriage.
I can just assume it was about money. Who else would marry such a disgusting human being? …if she was not as equally disgusting though. I really don’t know and not sure I do want to.
I mean how ya gonna marry someone when you know every time you have to go to the hospital theres a 32% chance your husband allows you to just die so he can save 1000$
You probably could if you’d see this as a great buisiness-idea. Save thousand moneyz for only givimg up one life you don’t even know. To many this obviously seems great.
Upset? No. More like a little uncomfortable. Partly because I’m an idealist who always hopes for the best and most moral and peaceful solutions. Partly because it makes me uncomfortable how little I am angered by this. Sure I absolutely do not want proles to go and kill the bourgeoisie… but I guess it’s not… I don’t feel the need to condemn this. Sometimes things are just… shrug
But it’s really just a little uncomfortable, like a sock not quite fitting my foot.
I am far FAR more uncomfortable with someone calling this the good but small beginning of an overdue purge.
Upset?
Yeah, a little. Not that he was killed, only that it was a pointless gesture that wasted an opportunity.
Pointless? Nah, the bourgeois probably needed a reminder of what can happen if they keep shafting people. Recon it won’t be long until the greens starts to remind them too that the climate clock still ticks.
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