What school end their year in December? Also there is always a ceremony if it was a real school.
If you finish all the credits you need in the Fall semester (which ends in December) then yeah, you graduate in the winter. Many schools don’t have a separate winter commencement, so winter grads wait until the end of the following Spring semester to participate in the graduation ceremony.
We are, we are, we are, we are
We are the engineers!
We can, we can, we can, we can
Demolish forty beers
Drink rum, drink rum, drink rum, drink rum
And come along with us!
'Cos we don’t give a fuck about anyone else
Who don’t give a fuck about us.
That’s what the first engineer I ever met said, but to be fair he was a combat engineer. Those guys are scary. Stick to electronics and bridges…
idk
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Yeah I just had em mail me the thing
Slight difference; being an ex on has the opposite effect on your ability to get a job.
Agreed, Exxon is a horrible company but I hear the pay is good. It would be tough for an ex-con to get a job as well.
Oof, touché.
Leaving it as is.
Getting out of the military is a lot like that as well
… and then i walked out of the Outprocessing building and took off my beret while still in uniform and walked to my car.
I had my CO sign a paper and then I grabbed my two bags and walked off base. Got an uber to the airport and that was that. Most anticipated but anticlimactic day of my life. I did smoke weed for the first time that day though so that was fun
I’ve never attended a singe scholarly celebration since my middle schools where I went and realized that it was completely pointless
plus the whole preparation and fanfare is draining for me, id like to actually celebrate by relaxing not stressing over an event
I feel that. Too many people, and most are just sitting there, looking at other people and clapping.
I’m kind of surprised; most colleges and universities I’ve seen still have a ceremony for people graduating at the end of the fall semester. It’s not nearly as elaborate as the one ending the spring semester, but it’s still something.
Still, most of life is going to be like that. Usually no real ceremonies for the last day on the job. Move out of your old house/apartment is a lot of work at the end and then you lock the door for the last time.
Congratulations, you’re an adult now.
Validation need not come from anywhere outside yourself. Set your own goals. Do your best. Pat yourself on the back. People who ‘recognize’ you only do so superficially anyway. No one can truly know what you’ve done or where you’ve been.
I mean, sure, but it is still nice to have some external validation now and again you know?
…said the mouse in the maze.
How about climbing over those walls, up the leg of the biggest scientist, enter through the eye socket, and hollow out that skull. That’s all the validation anyone needs. Yum!
Now you made me want to read Enders Game again. Cheers!
In monetary form even.
If one is not inclined to social gatherings but still feel a need for something to signal this passage (or any other), a good option is to perform a personal ritual of choice.
Human brains seem to be inclined to appreciate symbolism.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don’t think that the lack of ritual is the underlying problem here.
It’s what being an adult is like. You don’t study for the fanfare, you study for a goal or for yourself.
That and if you have a significant other, you might also score a celebratory shagging.
Edit: Never mind, just realized this is an anon on 4chan posting about engineering school.
You’re still right, but OP’s SO is their dominant hand.
I wonder why they hated school. Maybe the problem was the school and not the topic? Otherwise I feel sad for them disliking the topic they chose as a career path :(
I feel like there’s so much interesting stuff out there, there must be something useful that they find at least interesting.
Educational institutions are mostly there either to make money or as a public necessity that the rich underfund to have a malleable electorate. The institutions are therefor often understaffed, incompletely equipped, or spending money on things of no benefit to education. The majority of lecturers are thus often quite underpaid, overworked, and unmotivated, which leads to many students being unimpressed.
There are very few institutions and staff that really can show up to work with a smile and be satisfied with their employment.
It’s at times baffling and yet understandable why people do not vote for people or parties that want to treat education as a priority. They are a product of the influence of the rich and powerful on our institutions. That this dude is unsatisfied is no surprise to me.
Engineering school is pretty brutal. I love the career and in many ways I loved the schooling, but it was long nights of hard work on difficult stuff, a lot of which you need to understand for the profession but won’t have to do personally outside school. As a whole engineering school has a reputation because of that disparity as well as because some people go through it because it’s a well paying career and not because it’s where they feel they will be happiest, and engineering isn’t a good choice for folks like that.
Fully agree. I’ve seen a lot of people going into engineering for prestige or “by default” because they weren’t bad at math. It always made me a little sad because I found a lot of the courses truly fascinating and eye-opening and I wanted to nerd out with my teammates!
Man, I know it. I love talking about work. I love the stuff i design. But I’m pretty much the only one in my office like that, and it’s kind of a bummer.
Thankfully there is often a pretty big difference between studying and working.
I found there to be a level of stress in my studies that I never had a problem with later. An idea that any moment not spent pouring over books was contributing, at least in my mind, to inevitable failure; doubly so with exams looming ahead.
For me finishing my engineering degree was such a massive relief and work is so much better. I’m in anon’s boat.
Life can definitely feel easier after you find a job with a steady workflow. It’s the slow creep of responsibilities that will eventually overtake the stress of having been a student.
Oh the people who managed a few critical but rarely used pieces of equipment left? Looks like you’ll have to figure out how to run it yourself now with limited notes. Your project is floundering because other departments aren’t being upfront about their workload? Now you’ll have to babysit their work and send constant emails asking them to do their job so you won’t fall behind schedule. Are you a doc approver? Better take your laptop with you during vacation to be available for signing off on it.
Yeah I can understand that sitting on a desk all day, reading and taking exams is a pretty harrowing experience for most.
It looks like it’s my personal tastes that allowed me to enjoy school. And I really did enjoy it! Hopefully other people find something to do that they love.
The school to hospice informal incarceration pipeline is omnipresent for the working class, and college/trades level is right there in the middle. Right after kid jail and before wage slavery.
I dunno, I prefer this to having to take care of cows and growing my own crops.
Life and the endless crushing need for resources is the prison.
False dichotomy. This has nothing to do with cows and crops on some imaginary “farm”. In reality there’s no actual need for people to slave away their whole lives serving capital just so we can destroy the planet.
Do they not do the Iron Ring ceremony?
They might not be American - I don’t think anywhere else does the iron ring thing…
The what ?
Yeah, in America, at the end of engineering school, all the students are gathered into the Iron Ring and they fistfight to see who actually gets a degree. Top 30% or so win. That’s why I didn’t go to engineering school, I didn’t have enough time for gainz
That’s 100% fake, you’re busted
In america it would be a gunfight not a fistfight
North American engineers sometimes wear an Iron Ring, apparently.
A myth persists that the initial batch of Iron Rings was made from the beams of the first Quebec Bridge, a bridge that collapsed during construction in 1907 due to poor planning and design by the overseeing engineers.
How can you do that to my, Wikipedia? I never believed in Santa, but I believed in the tragic origin of the ring.
Hope they all take it off before doing anything power tool related or near any machinery that could catch it…
As originally conceived, the engineer’s iron ring rubs against the drawings and paper upon which the Engineer writes and even in modern times, serves as a reminder when working on a computer.
Think it’s intended more for the design engineer than the construction engineer.
But that said you can get some decent silicone rings that won’t de-glove you if they get caught these days.
At my university in the US it was optional and cost money. I was broke so I just didn’t do it. It was also framed as a Canadian thing we were starting to offer
Two things. 1. If you hated it maybe it was the wrong choice, 2. You can walk in the spring commencement if you want to, that’s what I did for grad school.
I love engineering, I hated University. The framework of school is not for everyone and reading 300 pages of complex stuff every week for 4 years is boring to death and it isn’t for me, and for a lot of people.
School of all levels caters to one type of learning, and not everyone is good with that style.
I experienced a wide array of learning types. Some profs rely on student-led learning from book readings and assignments, some relied on in-person lectures, some worked through examples in class and had similar examples on homework along with challenge problems that extend the examples in new ways, one had us use mathcad to build a model of increasing complexity with each lecture.
Saying university caters to one type is an absurd reduction. Unless that one type is “learning”.
Engineering is a skilled trade with a long list of topics that have to be covered. You don’t have to be an engineer, you could do a two year tech school or just DIY and roll your own, prove yourself through your work to get into engineering-like jobs.
Good for you. My experience is that the program was geared towards people that would continue to masters and PhDs.
I had an exam every two weeks, hundreds of pages every week to read and the professors weren’t really available for us, and teaching assistant didn’t really give a shit.
The labs were mostly just math labs, with really specific applications.
My only real project was the end of program project that lasted a bit short of 2 years. And the professors that were supposed to help us and support us told us that the project would fail for a good part of a year and a half. And when the project was a success and gave exposure to the school, the same professors that gave us shit for almost the entirety of the project took the credit for a successful project.
If you wanted to do hands on engineering, you had to join extra curricular teams.
My opinion on the matter is certainly tainted by my awful experience, but I did a program to become a technician in my field before going to engineering school and it was much more appropriate for my learning style.
- if you hated engineering in uni, will you love the work afterwards?
Depends if who you work for. If you work for bad management prepare for some goon to tell you what you should be doing, be wrong about what they tell you, not know what they want, and to demand it sooner than you tell them it will take. They will then change their mind and still expect it to take less time. They will be constantly frustrated with you and you will hate it.
Good management will find work with clear value to customers and you will feel valued and be given *mostly adequate time to do your work. You will put in your hours and be paid. You’ll still be jerked around by typical corporate politics, but it’s everywhere so buckle up. Better than ditch digging unless that’s what you want.
Good management should insulate engineers from most of the corporate politics. My manager, for example, knows we get surprises, so they add in extra time to whatever estimate we give, and he tells stakeholders that this is a firm estimate, which they’ll inevitably push back on and they’ll concede down to something a little higher than our initial estimate (i.e. handle the corporate politics).
Depends on the person, depends on the University.
From what I’ve seen (very old anecdote here, take with salt) some engineering colleges will do everything within the ethics/honor code to obstruct your path to 2nd year. Then they do it again for 3rd. The result are brutally hard classes that are designed to weed students out more than teaching the subject at hand. Even on its best day, school doesn’t mirror the real world, but neither does semester after semester of arbitrary hurdles for a degree. The workplace simply has entirely different, but far more palatable, bullshit on offer. IMO, it’s completely valid to hate school but love your job afterwards.
It depends man
Yup. If you enjoy the work but hate the school environment, you’ll probably like being an engineer.
I’m a software engineer, so it’s quite a bit different than other types of engineering, and I hated formal education but I absolutely love my job, even after many years.
BTW, can I get your opinion on something ? It’s called Fossil from an engineer perspective
Just use git.
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Does it matter if you hate the work if it’s the only thing you can find that pays more than subsistence wages?
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Do any of our lives matter in this hell?
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