“I openly voted against the interests of my own children and also openly claim they have a mental disorder for their views.”
Get fucked.
These people really are clueless. No appreciation at all for how their actions affect others. They get surprised when people stop putting themselves in harms way by simply not being around them.
Want your family back? Realize that what you think is some free speech populist revolution is just an excuse for a lot of people to be assholes and expect no consequences.
to be fair, democrats think voting for trump is a mental illness too.
not on anyone’s side here, just pointing out the hypocrisy
It’s not that Trumpism is a mental illness, more like you need to have a mental illness to be a Trump supporter.
this is no different than the right calling the left mentally ill.
both of you think you’re right, and I think the real answer is nobody is right.
“As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding.”
The dictators claims that all of their political opponents are terrorists is not analogous or equally valid to the terrorized political opponents calling the dictator a terrorist. If you can’t comprehend how those two groups are different — the logical separation between the conman who lies about everything and terrorizes his opponents, and every group he chooses to terrorize — then you either have the mental illness, or are most at risk to the propaganda (and future mental illness).
Pro tip! Only a fascist opposes ANTI-FAscism.
Please re-read the last line I wrote.
Hypocrisy is clutching your pearls and virtue signalling “Christian conservative values” while worshipping a “grab-em-by-the-pussy” false-profit who is the closest thing to the antichrist in living memory.
So yeah, only one of those groups has a literal mental illness, and they are also the hypocrites.
I let them vote how they wish
How wholesome
“I didn’t personally infringe on their rights at all”
All while voting against their interests. Sounds like a wonderful father.
That stuck out the most
But they certainly can’t do what they want with their own body! Why won’t they talk to me?? 😭
That’s all you need to know about this shit stain.
Isn’t he generous.
That was the word I was thinking of but couldn’t find.
Bless his heart.
“My kids don’t want to hang out with me after I dismissed their opinions as a mental disorder and the party I voted for tries to control their bodies! Why must I suffer? I didn’t do anything to them directly! These kids today are so unfaaaair!”
What a jackass.
I hope his kids have a great holiday. Good on them for standing up for their beliefs.
Wrong
What?
Chicken butt.
Snickers Got them.
Yeah, yeah you are.
You’re so cringe I already have you tagged from another comment you made lmao
Thanks for helping me find out about user tags, this is revolutionary
I wish they were a Lemmy backend thing and not a frontend/per-app thing. I use more than one device (my desktop and my phone) to browse Lemmy, so functions that are local to only one frontend or app instance are useless to me.
Oh, so it’s only on my app? That’s much worse than I thought
The block user button: “Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power”
No way. I’d miss out on way too much free entertainment. Lemmy is full of dilusional takes.
Yeah I had to start doing it recently but I tend to save it for people with the worst takes
Thanks
Right
I imagine you having a daily task of opening Lemmy, looking at your username, cracking your knuckles and then just going ham on being as shitty of a person as possible.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a troll or not, it’s equally as bad either way.
Shocking his three daughters don’t support a felon who publicly brags about sexually abusing women and wanting to bang his daughter.
Conservatives seem to have this weird belief that if they tried something and failed, then everything should be as if they never tried at all. Like, “attempted murder” just isn’t a thing in their eyes.
Maybe it’s just how their fragile egos handle not winning everything always.
Like, “attempted murder” just isn’t a thing in their eyes.
“You see, Birch, I’m presently incarcerated for a crime I didn’t even commit! ‘Attempted murder.’ Ha! Now, honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry? Do they?!” - Sideshow Bob from the episode of The Simpsons where he literally becomes the Republican mayoral candidate after calling into a right wing talk radio show.
When Trump won and starting talking about how unlikely it was, I half-expected him to break out into evil laughter ala Sideshow Bob in this scene. Which certainly would have been more honest.
Could he then get dragged through cactai while strapped to someone’s undercarriage and then step on rakes indefinitely? That’d be swell.
They don’t win everything always?
The love the fucking around, but they want to eliminate the finding out
Last sentence is right. It is very sad.
Seems to me that the kids are almost certainly having thanksgiving, just not inviting their father.
General Grant would not approve
I was about to say, General Grant annihilated the confederacy then President Grant tore apart the first KKK. He would probably beat the shit out of this member of the forth KKK.
Conservatives never learn anything. It’s part of why they’re conservative in the first place. They don’t grow, expand their minds, or learn from life. They hit a point where they harden and ruin relationships.
Many, many who vote conservative, used to be liberal. Haven’t you learned that most people turn conservatives as they get older? After growth, and learning more about life and politics, people tend to turn conservative…
The writing on the wall is plain and simple.
Through experience, people can perceive what politics actually effect their life/family/bottom dollar. The 40yo dumbass has seen president’s come and go. The 20yo dumbass might not even have voted for a president yet. But which dumbass probably has a better formed opinion?
I don’t think age makes people conservative, I think power makes people conservative. If you accumulate wealth and power then you may become conservative in order to protect your wealth from taxes.
Just as others in this thread have said, it’s the “fuck you, I got mine” attitude.
I’ve heard this multiple times and have very rarely seen it apply. Usually if they’re conservative in their later years, they always were. It just wasn’t as prevalent or talked about. I’ve been a lefty since I was a kid and have not deviated at all.
It’s like people that once supported Bernie now voting for Trump (they’re a strange anomaly but they exist). They were never actually liberal. They either voted entirely on vibes and feels, or they got swept up in the wave of others around them. Then eventually their true self surfaces.
People grow more conservative when they have something to conserve. Also because they’re wanker and weren’t raised right.
I find that they’re usually fixated on materialistic things. They get a little money and it goes to their head.
Also the world moves towards progressiveness by definition so people who still have the same views with 80 as they did with 20 are probably more conservative (in the traditional sense of the word) relative to the rest of the world.
It could be “learning more about life and politics” or it could be “becoming senile and having a steady diet of FOX News, Facebook, and YouTube”. Since higher levels of education are correlated with leftist politics, I’m betting on the second one.
I used to be more leaft leaning when young yes. Now I turned 40… I’m feeling anarchist I tell ya… Burn everything stop oppressing no one should have power.
No, that’s just one of those sayings that goes around. It’s the assumption that people make more money as they age thus causing them to be more conservative. Maybe this was true in the 80s
I am 44 and went from conservative to liberal. My parents always told me I would switch as I got older and that was wrong. What I learned was conservatives want three things: money, controlling people, and being allowed to say the quiet part out loud.
What amazes me is conservatives are “Christian” yet don’t want to provide health care to people. I don’t remember Jesus in the bible healing people then asking for payment later.
Everyone is dynamic and unique, and no one’s experience is the same as another’s. Of course. I speak in generalities. Personally, I grew up identifying as conservative, then around 23, as my political opinions changed, I considered myself a liberal. That lasted about a dozen years, but now, again, I consider i probably fall more into the conservative camp.
As it’s also fondly called, the “Fuck you, I got mine” phenomenon.
100% of the conservatives I’ve known in my life were this, and the libertarians were the same. They have a narrow, self-centered view of everything, and think that everyone has the same exact opportunities they have. If someone isn’t as successful as they are, instead of acknowledging that everyone has a unique set of barriers and experiences, they dismissively write it off as them being lazy.
In my experience, the loudest conservatives I’ve met have all fallen into 2 categories:
Explicitly “fuck you I got mine” I can at least appreciate the honesty with these ones.
And “I haven’t read a book since 12th grade, and now I struggle to read at a 2nd grade level.” And that’s just performing the act of reading. Actual comprehension and critical thinking are completely beyond them.
The religious types are part of the equation too, but my area isn’t particularly religious, so I don’t often come across those assholes.
The religious types are really just subsets of the other types who want to play the “See, it is not me saying all those bigoted things about you, it is my god” card to avoid counter-arguments.
I gotta say, I’m becoming more lefty as I age. I grew up with an emphasis on personal responsibility, self reliance etc. Those principles still ring true with me. But I have seen them twisted by conservatives to be used against individuals in the interests of the 1%, the corporations. Trump doesn’t even pretend to play by the same rules. He has literally said “I take no responsibility at all” while as the president for things he was in control of. That’s not a leader, it’s a ruler.
I mean the point of conservatism is to “not change”, or “conserve” the old ways. Learning by definition means understanding new ideas which may even lead to trying new things, aka trying to “progress”, a leftist idea.
Well, golly gee, he “let” his independent, grown-ass adult offspring vote for the candidate of their own choosing. I can’t imagine why they’d spurn him after such selfless and generous act.
The vice president elect said people with kids should get more votes. The next step in that slippery slope is to have control of your grown-ass kid’s votes until they know how to “vote properly”.
As much as I want to boycott my parents thanksgiving dinner, my dad is almost 80 and I only got so many days left to even hang out with him. Plus my mom is cool so I got that going for me.
My dad is almost 80 and a Trump supporter. Fuck that guy. Let him die lonely.
And I respect your choice. I’ve just never had that bad relationship with my dad. He’s a fucking idiot that doesn’t understand what the hell he even voted for, but he’s not a terrible person. Not a good person, but not a terrible person. My dad’s ignorant, not a fascist. Which I’m sure a lot of people that voted for him fall under that category. Even if it is unfortunate.
But I fully support your choice. If your dad is anything like the dude in this post he’s probably not a good person.
Noooo if you don’t disown him, you’re letting Trump win! You have to cut every loved one who voted Trump out of your life RIGHT NOW!..
…at least if you want to follow the advice that was repeatedly thrown my way when I expressed a similar sentiment about not abandoning my elderly father
I’m honestly so much happier to not have those people in my life. You do you, centrist/troll man, but a lot of us can see the mental health benefits and are happy to burn the bridges.
People are going non contact with people who are toxic, not just because of how they voted. Dude in the screenshot clearly has more going on than just how he voted that drove his daughters to go no contact. You can read his reaction and recognize that
Yes, I’m aware. I’m referring to OC’s comment and the response I got when I said something similar (that I was struggling to talk to my dad after the election but I didn’t want to disown him over it). The same hyperbole I’ve seen dozens of times here.
It’s the political version of the awful relationship advice from reddit.
Instructions unclear, deleted the gym
“My girlfriend cried the other day and I don’t know if I did something wrong or she’s upset about something else”
BREAK UP WITH HER, HIRE FACEBOOK, DELETE THE GYM, AND HIT A LAWYER
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Yeah sure the daughters fell for the propaganda
womp womp
You know, I’m not sure I believe that “PDX Conservative” keeps all of his political beliefs to himself and didn’t argue with his kids about their political beliefs. Given his tweet with over 200K views, it seems to me like Mr. conserve_p may be understating his willingness to loudly declare his political opinions to anyone who will listen including to his liberal children that he is publicly calling rude and childish.
My dad is hardcore conservative, identifies as independent. My mom was Democratic, she’s now hardcore Republican to reflect the political views of her 4th husband.
I want so badly to just not see any family for Thanksgiving because their political views are so dramatically opposed to mine, but that just doesn’t feel right in my heart.
Everyone I love supports things I’m ethically and morally against, but shit dude, my circle of people is already so small. I want to have family and friends in my life, but I also want to surround myself with people who share my values. Unfortunately I have to choose one over the other, and that feels dirty.
Going no contact or limited contact is a personal decision everyone has to decide for themselves. I’m lucky enough to have boomer parents who aren’t hateful/gullible conservatives.
It is a personal choice, but it also enables fascism. It is important that we not ignore this.
People say “what would you do to stop the Nazis” and in America, we can’t even bring ourselves to do the very minimum to socially isolated Nazis while that is still a viable option. How’s it going to go if we need to take up arms against them? How many people are going to say “I know my father is marching with brownshirts who lynch gay people, but I’m pretty sure he isn’t actually holding the rope.”
Personally, I’d cut them off as I’m diametrically opposed to fascism and bigotry. But I get that family relationships can be complicated, and if people are dependent on those Trump supporters cutting them off really isn’t a viable option. The reality is we’re all more isolated than ever, and without some kind of support system, cutting off the few people some have connections with might end up doing more harm than good. We need stronger communities built around opposing the coming tidal wave of crushing hatred - much easier said than done.
I’m not from the US, but my mother held some questionable craycray views for a long time, but I only fully realized & saw the extend of it after the refugee crisis in 2014. I tried to somehow bear with her, but in the end, also for some other reasons, I had to cut her out of my life, simply for my own sake. I’m rather alone than surrounded by toxic people.
Doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Maybe you can go every second one. Or go and if it comes up and gets heated you could leave?
You’re allowed to make new friends.
Oh wow why didn’t I think of that
