That does not magically appears in Europe, but the victories thanks to strong unionism and revolutionary unionism. The same that was directly attacked by the US government in the 1920’s
Fun fact: October Revolution haappened in Europe
Like can you gave examples
I work for a company with both European and American employees. Even the European employees didn’t know how bad it was, and we work for the same employer. I hope I can live till retirement and not get diagnosed with cancer the day after like my Dad. Would be nice to do something those last years if there’s a planet left, I have some money and my body isn’t broken.
I’m getting closer to retirement age and still have no money. I am trying to pull off the miracle of having a paid off house by then though.
Trump is gonna make it all better. And by better I mean worse. FAR worse.
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Because all European firms are situated around the globe and follow their vacations.
Not at all. We just have better working conditions. I get 28 days because it’s the law in my country.
You think I wait for holidays to be unavailable? :,D
Funny
Well I’ve just been paid to start drinking at 3:00 p.m. because apparently I haven’t taken enough holiday this year.
Sucks to be free I guess.
Trying to bring that European holiday energy to my American workplace 😤
When you can’t afford to move but you live on the Florida coast
She is paying rent for that.
Sell their houses to whom, Ben? Fucking Aquamen?
You can’t tell, but that’s her living room…
Actualy we can tell because it’s wet
Gonna go take a bath with my work laptop if anyone needs me.
Remember to plug it in, you don’t want to have to go scrambling for a charger in the middle of the meeting.
Was that the bad thing?
But it does make your hair nice and frizzy.
Bad as in German?
Shockingly yeah
For the last few years, I’ve been trying to get them to assign me at least someone part-time to learn my tribal knowledge. I’ve been writing documents and leaving copious notes in Slack canvasses to stakeholders. If something happens to me, they’ll be struggle-bussing it.
When I go on vacation, I’m still stuck for end-game support for p0 stuff. If production is down, I’ll stop what I’m doing, If they can’t make money, they can’t pay my salary. I’ll answer P1 questions off hours to an extent.
I don’t absolutely hate it. I’m paid well for the inconvenience but they’re playing with fire. I only go places that have some form of internet somewhere (doesn’t need to be everywhere) and I’m always within 15 minutes of grabbing my laptop.
That’s that me. But the company I work for is big enough that if they’re fucked, it looks worse on my bosses for only having one of me and no plan. So fuck that, off I go. I told them how badly things could go if someone grabbed my laptop, so that stays very safely behind too.
I stopped going to dinner with my wife and her father when he’s in town. We will go to a restaurant and he’ll pull out his laptop and phone and start working, while vaguely listening to what we’re saying
I hope he was paying
Got to get gold in league somehow
Did you tell him that directly? I think you should.
My wife always brings it up. He’s one of those people who just does his own thing and doesn’t really care about anyone else’s plans or preferences, so that’s another reason I stopped going out with them. It could be a group of 10 and he wants Indian food but everyone else wants Mexican, so he compromises by having us all go to the Indian place… Where he can order his food in an Indian accent to the Indian waiter
I really wish that Americans didn’t lump an entire continent with their own laws, cultures, and customs together.
Yes, the American attitude towards work sucks, but comparing Germany and the UK is like comparing New York with Kingston…
EU has delegated acts mandating that every EU country transfers to local laws the “right to disconnect” with which every company needs to have a policy that prohibits them contacting their employees outside of work time (which ofc includes vacations) … except “in emergencies” (along with communication channel sequence) … which arent super defined but should be along the lines of preventing/avoiding damages in extraordinary situations.
And that employees can’t be punished for ignoring any communication outside of work hours in any case.
There is a delegated act on the way that may find its way into law, but it’s likely that it won’t get that far (like many EU laws) because they move a lot slower than local laws, and because not all countries agree (or agree to a larger extent). It’s also worth noting that the EU != Europe, so there will be several counties in and out that will have their own vested interests in passing/not passing this as law. Ireland is a big one, as they heavily rely on tech investment, whereas France will likely go above and beyond anything the EU will cook up. I believe Belgium in particular beat everyone to this.
No, delegated acts are law for all EU members directly, directives have to be implemented via local laws.
But EU bureaucracy works, it’s a process but it does the job, they work via public consolations with member states & private sectors (companies) on legislations, and it really shows (in amendments too - especially once in force practices show which areas need more considerations & which simplifications).
And the right to disconnect is what most countries had as some base legacy laws, but now it’s setup up in a common way.
via iuslaboris.com/laws-on-the-right-to-disconnect … seems updated, tho iirc Canada also has at least some form of this … eastern Europe is just way behind in lawmaking generally (it’s still work even if they don’t have opposition), not sure what’s with Germany.They do not have to be implemented. Each country in the EU is open to interpret a directive as they wish, as long as they reach a desired outcome that doesn’t fly against the directive. As such, directives are often referred to as “soft laws” because they’re loose enough that direct opposition is challenging. An EU regulation, on the other hand, needs to be added to national law.
I agree that EU bureaucracy works really well, mostly because it’s loose enough to avoid countries directly challenging it. Ireland being considered a low tax haven is a good example of this, in that a directive allowed them to meet tax requirements while also ensuring that they can house many F500 companies in a relatively small area of Dublin.
I believe Belgium in particular beat everyone to this.
They have certain history.
is like comparing New York with Kingston
Haha, the second I wrote it I thought “I bet there’s a Kingston in NY”, right after I was looking at places to rent in NY…
I’m gonna guess the meme was made by a European, to make fun of us Murrikans.
I highly doubt it, since any European with sense will know that some countries have far different attitudes towards work than others, and complicated relationships between eastern and western Europe in regards to skilled trade work and immigration…
The biggest reason to knock off working on vacation or after hours is that it creates a false expectation on the the workload. If you can’t get it done during regular office hours, than that means your company needs more people or a process improvement.
If you are working these extra untracked hours, you are the problem. If you get rewarded for doing so, your company is toxic and will only expect more as you move up the ladder.
The biggest reason is because it’s not work time. End of.
I’ve worked at plenty of places which have made it fairly clear that the only way you can progress up in the company is to work out of hours. Extremely illegal business practice but they did it anyway.
One of the places was a law firm, because lawyers always think that they know how to break the law.
I told a manager that, if you work 60h a week, you don’t know how to do you job. I slipped in that hourly payment isn’t terrible either if you do so.
He never bothered to try to make me work “for free” ever again.
No one on there deathbed will say they wish they worked harder. They will regret all the other moments they missed because they were working too much.
Time is more than just money, it’s your life.
I’ll put my hand up and say that I will wish I worked harder. My job is simple and i work remote. If I was willing to work harder, I could either move up in the company or move to a competitor. That would get me more money. More money would help me to pay rent on a nicer place to live. And then with the new nice place, I could get the rest of my head in order. So I will absolutely go to my doom wishing I worked harder, put in more hours, and showed a high degree of dedication.
That’s what everybody thinks before they are on their deathbed, not so much when they’re actually there… The peace you’re looking for will most likely always be 2 steps ahead of you
Plus working hard is not necessarily correlated with being paid more, or being promoted.
The company could easily refuse you promotion if you’re considered irreplaceable.
I read somewhere on a study of male americans on their deathbed, that they were 100% who regretted being in the office to much.
Can’t find the source though.
Labour laws my dude! When the government protect people and not corporations. I can just ignore them for 60 days a year and it’s cheaper to accept than fire me
It’s not that simple when most people actively choose the cruelty.
It is that simple but it’s not that easy. Lots of problems have simple fixes that are extraordinarily difficult to implement for a whole host of reasons.
That doesn’t really change what you’re getting at though. I guess I was feeling pedantic. Feel free to ignore me 😊
