So US has 1/4 of China population and can’t compete economically.
World in sharp population decline.
U get free humans coming to your country to help u with that economic problem.
U should use those people, dumbest thing u can do is report them and waste tons of money in the process.
are we sure this is a “leopards ate my face” and not a “I am going to challenge their worldview”?
Her work ethic is absolutely mute.
Afraid of they spelled it right someone would think they were insulting her by calling her a cow. Moo.
What? Did you say something?
I literally couldn’t see any other thing in the text. I bet the colombian girlfriend with the industrial engineering knowledge knows the difference between mute and moot, but the maga mouthbreather of course was born here, so it’s him we get to keep…
She should pay income tax…
Leopards about to FEAST
Look at the name, it is a bot.
These troll bots are here on Lemmy too. Same language. Bootlickers enabled by the internet. Do not feed them.
Honestly, what’s worse, that someone has so little empathy that they’ll just tell some innocent person that they should be separated from their loved ones because they didn’t say the right magic words as they went over the imaginary line, or that someone would invest the time and energy into creating software to do so automatically
The second username is just a suggested Reddit username, I have one on my Reddit account because I was too lazy to think of an original name. It doesn’t mean you’re a bot.
And the first username looks like it belongs to somebody who owns a 2017 Subaru Impreza.
Looks like they both could be.
Fun fact, if she renewed that visa with her plans to go to school in Florida, but then stayed there… She’s ineligible to ever become a citizen because she lied to get a visa.
Colombia is probably going to be safer in 4 years.
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“Bye Consuela”
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Have you ever noticed that 99% of the time the point of a post is to evoke an emotional response?
The same could be said of most songs, poetry, fiction.
Someday we will invent a way to convey emotions without that intermediate step. That will be impressive.
This is a great argument for weak/selective law enforcement. Because there are always exceptions.
No, you have sanity backwards. This is a great argument for our legal system needing an overhaul so that only things that are enforced always are enshrined in laws. Murder is bad – great law. Loitering as a concept – dumb law used to abuse.
There will never be perfect laws. The idea of encoding behavior is absurd. What we need is let the laws handle the major ideas (don’t kill etc) and let real live humans handle the details.
Unfortunately when you say real live humans you mean “a coin flip between getting a human or a raging authoritarian racist bully with a gun” which is why your idea doesn’t work, historically. Works well for the racist bullies I suppose.
Surely we can pick our humans. Reject the “raging etc” and prefer the good ones.
What planet are you living on?
Less rhetoric, more plain speaking, please.
Like, for rich people?
And wives of rich people?
Classic assumption that “the left” doesn’t love this country.
In all fairness it’s only an assumption of those who confused Nationalism with Patriotism.
Patriotism (what can I do for my country) fits naturally with Leftwing principles (such as “The greatest good for the greatest number”) whilst Nationalism (what can I get from being born were I was born) fits naturally with Rightwing principles (such as “What’s in it for me?”)
We tend to have strong mixed feelings on it in my experience. It’s got a lot of bad. Some of it is impossible to remove, but it’s also got a ton of good. And yeah the right doesn’t understand that when we criticize this country we’re trying to make it better. I want America to be somewhere I can be proud of. I want people to think positive things when they think of Americans. We could be fucking awesome. And in some ways we have been. I want us to be the country that a refugee from Iran I met a decade ago saw us as. I want us to see other countries doing smart things like universal healthcare and the metric system and join in because this is America and we deserve to do things the best we can.
Whenever I’m driving through highways, hiking at the Adirondacks, walking around nyc, visiting my friends in LA, I’m always in the awe of this country. Fuck these people who think we don’t “love” this country.
Patriotic lefty marine corps veteran here, I’m so sick of the right wingers highjacking the word patriot. You are exactly correct in calling out the difference between nationalism and patriotism. I love this country and I hurt so much seeing what it has become over the last 20-30 years.
Love that phrase…”love this country”.
What does it even mean? The citizens? The flag? The physical land and soil that encompasses “this country”? Love the government? If so, what about the government do you love? The governments policies? Laws? The constitution? The actual government employees? Which ones? The president? A combination? How is the combination divided?
Also, depending on the answer to the above, why? Because you were born here? You think it’s better than other countries? How are you defining “better”?
Stupid phrase imo.
A friend who worked in D.C. for a while clued me in to the Rosetta Stone of understanding the right-wing mentality: It all flows from a deep, abiding self-hatred. They need constant reassurance that they are good people, because they don’t really believe it.
Furthermore, they literally need an untermenschen (the poor, the homeless, the sick) to be better than, so their own success proves that they are good.
It’s obvious when you look at it this way: America must axiomatically be all good, because they are Americans; with your criticism, are you saying they’re not good?
I spent a lot of formative years in an extremely rural area. People would take a lot of their time running down the local area, mocking the state of the school we went to, how there was nothing to do, and so on.
But, I noticed two things - first of all, if anyone talked about moving somewhere else in the country, or to a big city, these same people would express shock and outrage and say overtly racist things like “but that’s where all the nKLANGers are!”. Also, few of them had actually went anywhere else - some of them had never left the county, few left the state, and very rare was it that someone had left the country.
Secondly, if the topic of the greatness of this country came up, it was the bestest evar, at everything, than any other! I sometimes would ask these people how they would even know, since, in some cases, they’ve seen almost none of this country and they have never been to any other, and they thought the area they lived in was kind of a shithole?
Yep, interesting how they’re proud of America, they just hate all of the people and things in it.
Well, Trump is obviously the country, so loving your country means giving him a pass for every one of his failures as long as he blames the other side and also blindly obeying and defending each and every one of his self-serving orders.
You know, just regular patriotic stuff.
Same with being proud of the country. Proud of what? The country doesn’t do anything.
It’s some damn good dirt
For me loving a country is a natural love of home. It’s a sentimental attachment. I want my country to be a nice place the way I want my home to be a nice place. I want to feel the pride of both. If my kitchen stinks because of spoiled food and piles of dirty dishes I don’t feel right. Same when my country stinks of poverty, homelessness, sick people who can’t afford cures, etc. I want my home to be better than that. Recognizing faults doesn’t mean someone doesn’t love their country. it means they’re honest.
But why would the boundaries of your “home” be as big as a country?
Sure, being proud of yourself makes sense, and of your family and close friends and of the things were you or they have a strong influence over like their homes and what they do which in some cases means their jobs.
However being proud of something were you and those you hold dearest are but a tiny, tiny fraction with pretty much zero influence is not at all the same thing, especially if most of the great things about it are the product of the works of people long dead.
My point being that pride in one’s country is an artificial thing which you’ve been pushed into having from the outside and as such is a prime vector to manipulate you (and all it takes is to listen to politicians harp about the greatness of one’s country to see that it is indeed being used for that by some), not something natural like pride for you and those close to you and their deeds.
I wouldn’t be surprised if my words above feel wrong, but under a cold logical analysis, do they come out as wrong?
I understand what they mean. I think this comes down to an exercise in semantics, and you are pushing the “country = home” analogy too literally.
Feelings of love and pride don’t need a pure rational root cause. They can exist in a more abstract sense, like in the case of “loving your home”. You can take pride/love in the work you do to clean your home, especially when realizing others will be living in it as well. I can “love” the earth, and want to take care of and respect it.
Love can be expressed in many different forms. I can both love my significant other and also love my parents. I think you can then extend this argument to loving something abstract, like earth, or your country, with a sort of rational basis being that I love my fellow humans and want to reduce suffering.
My point being that pride in one’s country is an artificial thing which you’ve been pushed into having from the outside and as such is a prime vector to manipulate you (and all it takes is to listen to politicians harp about the greatness of one’s country to see that it is indeed being used for that by some), not something natural like pride for you and those close to you and their deeds.
I don’t quite follow you here. To me, there is a difference between having love or pride in one’s country versus being nationalist. To me, the latter involves critical analysis and honesty about flaws, and working to fix those flaws. Nationalism on the other hand would be amount to uncritically supporting everything the country (or politician/government) does, which is I think what you are describing?
Also, how do you define what is “natural” vs “unnatural” pride?
Well said
Only 1/4, apparently
These fucking people
It would be somewhat understandable if they were actually ideologically consistent…
But watch that person bend over backwards to say why Elon musk (or Melania trump) shouldn’t be kicked out of the country, or have his citizenship revoked, after it came out he was doing the exact same “illegal immigrant” thing.
Maybe she can instead stay in the new complexes for migrants. And wonder if deportation is actually the plan when the trains arrive because maybe her education included gas chambers.
Did he basically substitute his Columbian girlfriend for the situation Mush was in?
That’s far too subtle even for people with fully functional brains. No way Internet commenters are going to let go of their holy rage long enough to entertain that interpretation.
LOL! Get fukt.
