not helping lemmy’s extremist-leaning reputation guys
Mod here. This is pretty cut and dry:
No doxxing or promoting violence. Ever.
Please report any and all instances of such behavior so it can be promptly removed.
This thread is now locked.
If it’s not right for them, it’s not right for us. I understand there are times when a person’s opinions and character deserve harsh criticism, but providing information that may result in real-world violence is different.
I don’t care about their safety anymore. They don’t care about mine. What’s that phrase they like to regurgitate? FAFO?
They are literally gathering lists of outgroups and minorities right now. Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.
Man, some of the takes here make me sad. Thanks to those who upvoted the idea that ethics don’t change when someone is sure they’re right in changing them “this time”. I want to be clear - I’m not painting all or even most Lemmy users with this brush. However, what I’m seeing lately is such a disconnect to me:
- “Woke snowflakes aren’t people” “Women are property” “Hamas (aka all Palestinians) aren’t people” = outrage at the dehumanization (very rightfully so).
- But then: “Trump voters are Nazis and Nazis aren’t people” “The people who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party are just as bad as them” = upvotes, “they don’t deserve rights” and “when they suffer it will be justice” comments. (To reiterate, I’m not saying everyone here, but enough to be worrying.)
This election broke people, and I really don’t like how readily some who claim to be ethical are supporting what seems to me to be hate speech by way of dehumanization. If Trump had lost and his followers were saying similar things but pointed it at “woke leftists” or “communists”, you all would be incredibly upset (rightfully so). Even though the Trumpers saying those things would truly think they were saving their country, the way some people here seem to think they are.
The moment you see people who voted for Harris assaulting third-party voters, you let me know. Some of the takes are over the top, but where they’re coming from is completely understandable. Dehumanization is an attempt to rationalize away empathy to prevent guilt and trauma from what people think is the fight to come.
The moral high road is littered with the corpses of people who tried to fight fair. In self-defense, there are 2 rules: a battle not fought is a battle won, and, if you have to hurt a man, hurt him so bad that you need never fear his vengeance.
If doxxing a couple of assholes like this is enough to intimidate the bigots who are now emboldened to attack and rape people and save even a few lives, then it’s worth it - we’ve solved things with rule number one. If it doesn’t stop them, then fyi: the back of the eye socket is thin enough to push through with your thumb and into the brain behind it. There’s no such thing as “fighting dirty” when it comes to survival. There’s no room for mercy when somebody is trying to kill you, and these people have tried before and say that they’re going to try again.
We all hope it doesn’t come to that, but it is better to be prepared and not need it than to wish you had it when the jackboots are stomping on you. And when somebody has told you who they are, you believe them. If it quacks like a Nazi, swims like a Nazi, and goose-steps like a Nazi, then it ain’t a duck.
Ok, I believe you are sincere and appreciate the perspective. There’s a difference between doxing Nick Fuentes, and doxing every trump voter. (In my opinion)
Do you believe violence can ever be considered justified? If you are a pure dogmatic pacifist, I believe your position is logically consistent.
If not: what circumstances can justify violence? Can the police or the military act within morality? Is justice defined by law or outcome?
If the state is unable or unwilling to protect a marginalized group of people, at what point does it become moral to defend themselves?
Well, thanks for talking to me in good faith. I’m trying to make good faith arguments. It’s really difficult to give a hard line about where violence is just because I’m sure ambiguity exists.
- Talking about the military: a declaration of civil war to save the country is a lot different than “his house is flammable” or “it would be a real shame if he was dealt with at night” which are exactly the kinds of things being said about Fuentes right now, on Lemmy. He’s undeniably a piece of shit, but vigilante killing isn’t alright. There are good reasons why soldiers killing others in the context of anti-fascist formal war would be treated differently than mob justice. If soldiers took it upon themselves to kill Fuentes without a declaration of civil war or something similarly legal, that would just be a crime or deployment of troops against American citizens. E.g. Lincoln didn’t tell Northerners to head South and start indiscriminately killing to end slavery, it was a war with rules like the chance to surrender, etc.
- Things like actual rape and murder should merit at least an attempt at justice within the bounds of law. And as far as I know, Fuentes hasn’t done either - people right now want him dead because of his words. As an example, people didn’t kill the January 6 protesters - they got put through the legal system and were punished. Would you argue that it would have been a proud and just moment in US history if those hundreds of rioters should have been identified and murdered back in 2021, by other civilians, without trial? I know Trump might release them - does that possibility mean they should have been murdered by a counter mob back then? The J6ers weren’t just talking like Fuentes either, they straight up attempted a coup.
- Israelis regularly kill non-violent Palestinians in the West Bank. They put Palestinians, including children, into prison without charges or trial, and some of them end up raped and tortured. It’s called administrative detention and it’s done because “the threat must be contained”. It’s also an enormous injustice. I feel the same way about extrajudicial killings of civilians, even if I think they’re terrible people. I wouldn’t support Ukrainian forces slaughtering Russian towns that could be proven to support Putin, even though I hate Putin.
- It’s the election loss that seems to be fuelling the rapid escalation of rhetoric here on Lemmy. I saw lots of bullying before, but not many people calling for actual killing. Why is it that the election loss, alone because nothing else has happened yet, made vigilantism ethical?
- As far as I know, people are not being killed or imprisoned yet on mass scales. Women are being threatened, but those instances are being investigated and there’s a growing pushback against that behavior. People are preparing legal opposition to proposed prison camps for undesirables. What I’m saying is the incitement I am seeing is based on possibilities, with no willingness to see if society figures out less radical solutions like legal challenges or societal pressure.
If it’s not right for them, it’s not right for us
Doxing, say, women who’ve had abortions or trans people so they can be imprisoned or killed by 3%ers is just fundementally different than doxing a murderous fascist in order to protect people’s lives.
Outcome matters.
It’s OK if I do it.
Unbelievable.
You literally refuse to understand the reasoning and will only see this at surface value. Things are approaching the level of fucked that can only be fixed with a come to Jesus moment (so to speak). If you can’t or won’t understand what is actually at stake and how dire things are, just do nothing on the sidelines and see how long it is before your starts to seem a LOT smaller than you thought it was.
It’s you who refuse to understand. You don’t tolerate a Nazi. I think the next several months will hopefully be eye opening for people like you (one can hope).
I’m saying the same thing you are. The only good nazi is one who has been giving a one-way ticket, leaving existence.
No, I’m saying the same thing you are!
Yes, it is okay if you do it, as long as it’s to a Nazi
That’s a term that has lost all meaning, thanks to people like you.
Nick Fuentes is literally an unabashed neonazi lmao
Huh. I thought you were using “nazi” the way the other side uses “fake news”.
I can’t believe my comment got removed for saying that it’s a good thing when Nazis get doxxed
Self defense isn’t murder.
When it gets into preemptive self defense…probably murder? But what if you are reasonably sure it will be too late to defend yourself later? Do you let yourself or those you love die? But people can weaponize that line of thinking in bad faith, they murder someone and say it was self defense because the other guy was definitely gonna do it. It seems too awful to allow, and yet for some people, it might be the only thing that stops them from getting killed. Clearly nobody should be expected to wait until the knife is in their neck to say, “well, at least I waited long enough to make sure I should have already done something”.
A whole line of thinking that can be prevented by nazis not openly threatening rape, which is the real headline here.
Yes, actually, there’s no obligation to extend the protections of the social contract to those actively attempting to destroy it.
Why are you so invested in the rights of Nazis? They’re not people
I’m going down in flames with you if need be. Wrong is wrong.
- Martin Luther King Jr. “The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate…”
I can see scenarios where violence becomes necessary, but not as vigilantes and it should be at the very end of the list.
I dont know what all of this about and im quite happy about it
Then leave? Nobody is telling you to be here. It’s still a free* country.
They probably want to stay and steer their fellow citizens away from violent crimes and towards resisting in ways that don’t make them look like murderous stalkers. Why don’t you leave? If the US has become enough to justify these crimes, you’re still free to do so. You said so yourself.
Sounds like we all should move to where you’re at. Where do you live?
Canada. Hope you’ve got a job considered valuable, because there’s a lot of Americans trying to get here apparently.
How in demand is warehouse maintenance work?
Rebrand as oil and gas facility repair and you might get hired here in Alberta lol Our current Premier is very pro-fossil fuel.
What do you do? I’ll just take your job IRL like these dipshit MAGA Republicans complain about anyways.
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Who? I’m not American if that helps.
No worries, I’m Canadian and I had to look it up. Nick Fuentes is one of the online bastards preaching open hatred. “Nicholas Joseph Fuentes (born August 18, 1998) is an American far-right political pundit and live streamer who promotes white supremacist, misogynistic, and antisemitic views.” Apparently he’s so vile even other Republicans are torn about associations with him - more in that article.
white supremacist named Nicholas Joseph Fuentes
There’s just no way the right don’t see the irony.
They don’t. They’re genuinely stupid.
lol, He’s 27? Who listen to this asshat?
Tiny dicked incels with zero social skills who think women are property. AKA fascists.
Is he the guy that came up with the phrase, “Your body, my choice”?
I don’t know if he coined the phrase, but he’s one of the first. “Nick Fuentes, an influential white nationalist podcaster, appears to be one of the early instigators in promoting the phrase on November 5. His X post, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” has since received 35 million views.”
He’s also the guy that said having sex with women is gay. Real charmer, that one
Yes, Every nonAmerican helps just a little. Thank you.
Actual fascists mirroring Hitler’s rise to power prior to WW2, using the same rhetoric of violence toward out-groups, a tyrant failing to be prosecuted under the law even though he was convicted of 34 felonies, going through the entire system with nothing to show for it, and you dumb fucking “centrists” still feel like things can be fixed through the utterly broken fucking system we’ve created.
Get your heads out of your fucking asses.
Okay but like you still shouldn’t dox people?
Like, I get it, we’re in a really bad spot right now. But publishing someone’s information on the internet is, if anything, just going to make them a martyr to those that want to opress.
It’s ok to dox fascists in order to combat fascism. You lose the right to privacy when you actively work towards brutalizing, enslaving and killing others.
Nazis aren’t people
Don’t dehumanize any group of people and imply violence against them is ok.
I think I’m in the wrong place
You are correct. That’s what Nazis do. Don’t sink to their level.
Amen. Defy the urge to race to the bottom, even if it’s borne out of genuine, understandable grief and frustration.
Violence against self-identified Nazis is 100% ok. We had a whole big war like 100 years ago about this
Are you really arguing we should all be nicer to literal Nazis? That’s the group we are talking about.
If you’re in the wrong place, I’m here with you. There are ways to deal with people that aren’t dehumanization and vigilante mob justice. We’re 4 days past the election. I think we need to see if society can pull through and avert disaster with less escalation and violence.
E.g. there are a lot of legal challenges being prepared for the militarized internment camps that Trump campaigned on. Also, the things he promised are simply outside the logistical scope of agencies to provide. “For one, it’s entirely impractical from an operational standpoint. The law enforcement capacity needed to both secure the border and carry out mass raids in the interior of the US simply does not exist.”
Maybe things will get bad enough in the US to justify a civil war or something similar. It’s happened before (although even then it wasn’t just whoever felt violent killing each other - it was war with rules). Or maybe things like legal challenges, impossible scope, and half the nation’s disapproval will keep it from getting to that point. I’d like to keep extrajudicial violence off the table until we know.
My guy let me spell it out for you, you fucking dumbass.
LITERAL NAZIS CAN ROT IN HELL. That’s it. You afford them nothing.
No. You’re wrong. You’re absolutely wrong in this instance and you need to stop. Do not protect nazis. Ever. Full stop.
If you’re not going to help then at least for the love of fucking god get out of the way.
His address is public domain. I’m sure he has an unlisted number, so that would be a violation of privacy.
Oh won’t someone please think of the poor nazis?
Liberals and fascists, name a more iconic duo
Pro-violence Lemmy users and power fantasies in magical worlds where they kill a few dozen people and the world is saved.
I don’t think anyone is under the illusion that if/when violence breaks out, a few people will die.
It won’t be a few if that happens, it won’t be limited to those that chose to fight (on either side), and deaths won’t be the only serious consequence. That’s why other people are asking for level heads.
Yeah fuck that guy. You make your bed you sleep in.
“Doxxing Nazis is just as bad as the Nazis, you guys.” 🤡
Disingenuous. The Lemmy users supporting doxing him aren’t leaving it at that. They aren’t even suggesting just protesting his house or otherwise acting legally. From the thread where he’s doxed:
- “Hypothetically, if you’re selected for jury duty in a case like 'Someone murdered Nick Fuentes”, you can just say not guilty regardless of evidence or truth."
- “Smash a different window every day.”
- “sure would be a shame if someone dealt with him late at night, wouldn’t it? :)”
- “Nazis deserve a lot worse than just getting doxxed”
- “Can you tell me if fascists have ever been defeated peacefully?”
- “In the immortal words of my grandfather’s friend, who was the second in command of a state’s Hell’s Angel chapter, anytime something happened, ‘You want me to take care of that for you?’”
In this thread:
- “‘Bold thing to say when your house is flammable’ A screenshot I saw somewhere”
- “Yes, actually, there’s no obligation to extend the protections of the social contract to those actively attempting to destroy it.”
Do you believe all those quotes are advocating legal things? We’re 4 days past the election and people are already talking vigilante violence.
Sure - he might be actively pushing for a series of genocides, and he might be a significant recruitment tool to advance those genocides, but pushing back against the death of millions of people with anything more than colourful language would be immoral.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
Yeah, I’ve proven to be a real fan of Fuentes in other parts of this thread… Take off with the insults and assumptions. You think someone like Bernie Sanders wants Fuentes killed by a random civilian? I guess he’s a fascist too huh? Here’s what I actually oppose - blatantly illegal mob justice. Fuentes is a bastard, but that doesn’t justify some angry internet dude committing an act of premeditated murder. Are you going to kill everyone with an ideology you consider dangerous? While convinced it’s to prevent suffering no less. What about when, if Fuentes is killed for the things he says, the right makes him a martyr and example of how dangerous “the enemy within” is making America? What if the fellow countrymen who you so hate start killing you and people you support/care about in return? Is that your plan for a safe nation?
It’s taken like 4 days post-election for people to escalate to calling for violence against everyone they consider Nazis. All in the name of ethics no less. I can empathize with the anger and feeling of helplessness. It’s still ridiculous and heart-breaking that less than a week after a loss there’s hundreds of upvotes for people pushing extrajudicial cold-blooded murder and violence in the name of righteousness. Unrepentantly so I might add.
P.S. Don’t tell me the folks hinting at this crap aren’t talking about murder. Even if, and that’s a big if, they only meant beatings or the like that would degenerate into lethal violence basically immediately. You personally have already said you don’t want to use words alone.
No… Stop… Please? Niiiick? I said pleeeease…
I use morality rather than legality to tell right from wrong. This is why I supported gay marriage a few years ago. My moral first principle is the minimisation of suffering and death. If someone is making headway toward killing tens of millions of people, I believe it’s immoral not to stop them, and while the suffering inflicted should be minimised, there’s not a lot that wouldn’t be justifiable if necessary to stop those tens of millions of deaths and all the suffering.
To stand by and watch something like that play out because forceful intervention is uncivil is to be complicit with those atrocities.
It’s insane to think killing Fuentes is going to prevent tens of millions of deaths. For starters, even a lot of Republicans want little or nothing to do with him. 2nd, if he is so dangerous, do you think his followers (who you argue are capable of killing many millions) are just going to throw up their hands at his death and go “whelp, that finishes it for us”? They’ll become more hateful, and much more likely to become violent in return.
Finally, what you are pushing for is very illegal. If you ever stop talking big and start doing, the most likely outcomes are you die or ruin your life. I’d say put up or shut up, but please don’t - vigilantism is wrong and I don’t want to see deaths or you and others suffering the outcomes even if I disagree with you. Worse, posts like yours might convince someone impressionable or less mentally stable to attack Fuentes and ruin their life instead because folks like you got angry. Plus the whole cascade of violence or even revenge killings situation.
You’ve said a lot while adding nothing.
Again, the priority is minimising suffering and death - if Fuentes’ death amounts to a net increase in death and suffering, I don’t support it. If there is a solution to that leads to less net suffering and death, I don’t support his death. If it’s effective at stopping the deaths of tens of millions of people, I’d support it. My preferred solution would be to escalate charges, censure and imprisonment for his work to advance those genocides.
What I will say is that:
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Silencing the mouthpieces of genocide and the recruiters for genocide helps minimises the chances of the genocides,
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Making contributing to genocide a dangerous affair helps minimise the chances of genocides.
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Asking nicely doesn’t do a damn thing to minimise the chances of the genocides.
Political violence is an inevitability - I’d rather it be minimised - sometimes a little violence stops a lot - this is why cops carry guns.
Finally, what you are pushing for is very illegal.
I’ve already said I’m guided by morality not legality, and I’m not pushing for anything specific beyond stopping about the most heinous act possible. I appreciate your concern, but the rest is noise.
Nothing? I addressed and rebutted your argument that your “there’s not a lot that wouldn’t be justifiable if necessary” (aka killing Fuentes) would prevent “tens of millions of deaths”. You seem to think “killing mouthpieces” is going to be some magical event that makes hateful people reconsider (as opposed to spurring them to violence of their own). Also, I’d like to add it’s ridiculous hyperbole - 3.8 million people are estimated to have died in the 20 years of the Vietnam war. Just over 900k died to violence in all the post 9-11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Finally, even if you don’t care about going to prison or dying, hopefully others reading will.
You go ahead and be “guided by morality not legality” while you do try to convince others extrajudicial violence is alright. All because you believe killing people outside the law, and getting people killed in return, is productive if you’re sure it’s right. You use the example of cops carrying guns, but they’re not under license to kill everyone they disagree with nor is it considered moral (since you don’t care about legality). Can you imagine if your example cops were guided by your principles, ignored law, and killed everyone they suspected might be a dangerous criminal on the chance it would reduce suffering? I’m thankful you’re almost certainly all talk, and let’s hope no one else listens to your posts about “silencing mouthpieces” and “making it dangerous”. That’s a recipe for mass violence, lawlessness, and associated suffering.
Violence should be a last resort, used only within bounds that keep if from being a crime/war crime, and definitely not exercised by everyone at will if they’re pretty sure it’s productive.
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Fuentes has deliberately and specifically doxxed people, karma is a bitch, end of discussion.
Am I going to burn his house down?
No, I hate driving.
But I hope he’s fucking scared that someone will so he can taste what it feels like.
Maybe you just want him to stew. But the whole point of my post is that people providing the specific examples I give don’t just want him doxed or even just protested - they’re actually calling for violence or murder. I don’t like Fuentes, and I’m not defending him as a person AT ALL. It took 3 minutes of looking up who he was to be disgusted by him. That doesn’t justify the blatantly illegal violence people are pushing for. Most of the big talkers will never do a damn thing either, which is actually a good thing because the most likely outcomes are they die or ruin their lives. I just hope their posts about teaching Nazis via violence doesn’t get someone more impressionable to ruin their life.
If you think the Holocaust would have ended without a whole lot of murder than you’re insane.
Ok buddy, you kill your way to a safe nation. What’s actually going to happen is you’ll die or ruin your life, and Trump will get all the proof of radical left terrorism he needs to do things like deploy the military in civilian areas.
No problem. You liberals just promise to get out of the way while leftists have to do all the hard work required to save a country. As usual.
I know you won’t be able to control yourselves though and will make it exponentially more difficult.
I AM a leftist. I’m a socialist (not communist) who believes in systems akin to Scandinavia’s. I support Bernie Sanders and systems like universal healthcare, living wages, and a strong social network of supports. What I’m not is a short-sighted violence advocate convinced that they’re in a group of untouchable heroes that will save the world via illegal murder and get away with it.
Nazis deserve nothing but bullets to the head, if the admins want to cover their asses that’s their choice.
Nazis deserve nothing but bullets to the head
I thought you just wanted him afraid? Sounds like you too actually want him literally killed without charge or trial - good thing you don’t consider it worth the drive since the most likely outcomes are you die or ruin your life. And spur revenge violence either way when people turn him into a martyr. Fuentes is an awful human being for advocating terrible things, don’t be like him but just on an opposite side. Thanks for a quote to add to my main post that really illustrates people actually wanting violence and not just “innocent” doxing btw.
I thought you just wanted him afraid? Sounds like you too actually want him literally killed without charge or trial
Those are not mutually exclusive. One is much more likely to happen than the other.
And if someone does end up committing a murder because of some twitter post and going to prison for it, hey, that’s one less ticking time bomb walking the streets. Ol’ nick’s life is far less valuable than those of random innocents. And one more martyr is not going to change anything. They are perfectly capable of substituting imaginary slights for real ones.
Do you think that “they could be killing us” will get the same response as “they ARE killing us”? Trump and supporting militias are going to have a field day if people like you get their way. If you think it’s bad now, wait until the 134 million American gun owners on both sides are enraged by proven examples that make them fearful of being murdered by their fellow countrymen.
Yes, karma is a bitch, and I feel nothing but contempt for Fuentes.
Doxxing is still bad though.
Helpful guide for anyone reading this thread who’s still unsure:
Doxxing people as a general rule is bad. Doxxing actual fucking nazis specifically is a public service (cool and good).
We can see how well just trying to vote them away is working. Fascists use violence to silence adversaries. All they understand is violence. You will never “moral high ground” a fascist into understanding the error of their ways.
So instead of opposing them legally, you want to jump straight to violence? I guarantee that will make a martyr out of Fuentes, give Trumpers evidence about how “the enemy within” is dangerous and destructive, and lead to people you support and care about being killed in return.
Telling people to kill others first is not a plan for a safe nation, and it’s very illegal as well. If you ever stop talking big on a forum and actually commit the violence you pushing for others to do be prepared to spend the rest of your life in prison, and rightfully so. Even worse, someone mentally unstable might read all these posts and go do it themselves and ruin their life because of posts like this. But hey, that will be the ethical choice because it’s worth it right?
Violence should be a last choice, it should be kept within bounds that prevent it from being a crime/war crime, and should never be done by whoever is angry enough to kill people identified as dangerous by an internet forum.
No, we don’t see how well voting works. Trump got less votes this run than he did in the last election where he fucking lost.
Check the updated vote counts. Some states aren’t done yet and he’s already around a million or so more votes higher than 2020.
I’m sorry, but when you smugly tell half the country that you’re going to do as you please to their bodies, you get what you get.
if you’re selected for jury duty in a case like 'Someone murdered Nick Fuentes", you can just say not guilty regardless of evidence or truth."
True. Jury Nullification is 100% legal and very cool, especially if used to protect anti-fascist action.
Smash a different window every day.
Counterpoint: Smash every window on different days.
Q: sure would be a shame if someone dealt with him late at night, wouldn’t it?
A: “No.”
Nazis deserve a lot worse than just getting doxxed
Imagine actually disagreeing with this. From the sound of it, just identifying who a Nazi is a step too far for you. I guess we should just ignore them and never sound the alarms about it and just let them do what they want?
Q: Can you tell me if fascists have ever been defeated peacefully?
A: “Never once”
In the immortal words of my grandfather’s friend, who was the second in command of a state’s Hell’s Angel chapter, anytime something happened:
“I shidded and farded out my doo doo ass”
Bold thing to say when your house is flammable
If you want to have safety and security in life, don’t position yourself as a direct threat to the fundamental liberties and freedoms enjoyed by more than half the nation.
Yes, actually, there’s no obligation to extend the protections of the social contract to those actively attempting to destroy it.
Paradox of tolerance. You cannot tolerate intolerance. Intolerance must be destroyed.
Nazis get punched and nazis get doxxed.
Hell yeah.
As if they’re going to solve everyone’s problems by punching. If you think gun-lovers are going to let you beat them you’re mistaken. Violence = fast track to dead people
Good point. I’ll adjust my view on this: “Nazis get
punchedshot and Nazis get doxxed”. I’d rather see dead Nazis than dead people.All they (fascists) understand is violence.
This is true, and they’re betting big on us not being willing to use it like they will. Prove them wrong.
Nazis deserve nothing but bullets to the head
There are like 500 movies where this is the literal moral of the story. Go watch Inglorious Basterds or League of Ungentlemanly Warfare and consider how unpopular you really think this rhetoric is. People respond to it like they do cartoon violence: no humans are harmed.
Hell, Wolfenstein 3D, the first ever FPS, avoided controversy by making the game about killing Nazis. It was basically kid-friendly.
Great write up, 10/10 no notes.
Thanks for clarifying that you also are talking about way more than just doxing. Which is the whole point of my post - it’s disingenuous to argue, as he is, that it’s “just doxing guys, why are you so upset?”. You just gave supporting evidence.
I get your point but this is kind of a pro-punching-Nazis group of people and I don’t think you are likely to change many people’s minds lol
That’s up to each instance admin to decide.
There are two stages when doing with Nazis.
In the first stage: mock the ever loving shit out of Nazis. Nazi thrive on being making people afraid of them. Hard for people to he afraid of you when everyone is mocking you.
Glitter bomb, flaming bags of poop, toilet paper, egg the Fuentes house. Draw penises on the walls. The more juvenile the prank, the better. Hard to be afraid of someone when they have massive penis spray painted on the garage door.
Second stage kicks in when Nazis start getting violent. Kick those fuckers right in the crotch. Stop them from being able to breed.
There’s a third.
Nazis are bred in religion, where they’re taught authoritarianism is morality. How do you kick them in the religion?
Have you reported it?
Being tollerant of an extremist (nazi or fascist) is just plain stupid.
Great! Totally agree. Can you guys make a forum or something separate from Lemmy where you post all of the assassination plans or whatever it is you do?
I’d rather the Lemmy admins not getting arrested day one of Trump’s presidency.
Damn right it is lmao
Gotta love the decentralized aspect of lemmy
People always sleepvon the Midwest, but we go hard out here man.
His address, my choice
Hes probably like “your body my choice” so its only a somewhat fair trade.
He did tweet that.
- I am not in twitter and will not go to verify it. This is multiple third-party sources
The screenshot I saw explained that the person that posted it said “Your house, my choice” and it just goes so fucking hard.
Bold thing to say when your house is flammable.
A screenshot I saw somewhere.
