• crawancon@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    meh, it’s over.

    decent will never win over indecent. and in or towards the end, only the indecent will survive.

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      7 days ago

      I mean, I get the sentiment but I disagree with it factually.

      Decent has done pretty well overall in the last few hundred years. YES with some notable exceptions.

      Do you know that quote about the “arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice”? I thought it was an MLK quote, and it is, but it apparently came from Theodore Parker who I didn’t know. A look over his wiki page gives you some perspective on where we are right now.

      it’s important to somewhat dissociate what we think history is from what we absolutely know it is from experience.

      Anyway. Fuck Trump I hope he chokes on a hamberder on tv and dies hilariously.

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        7 days ago

        I get the attempt and appreciate the response, but the ol question comes back, what periods of time were considered decent by all?I can’t name anytime in last several hundred years where there wasn’t human imposed sickness via slavery, greed, war, desire etc that affected millions of other humans and decent humans “had temporarily won” I’ve heard some mention the summer of 1969 but that accounts for small % of humanity. I cling to the not-so-shitty moments too and maybe I’m jaded, but it doesn’t seem like any decency has won, despite having some decent leaders along the way. say Obama and I meet you with rabid Rs lambasting his tan suit and Healthcare ideas as if he was the antichrist. Pepperidge Farm remembers Obama.

        I’ll read on the arc of justice, but IMO the universe has never had an objective morality where it gives a shit about right or wrong, so can make no cause for justice. because you see justice is derived from laws, and laws are derived from ethics and morals which are subjective. there is no subjectivity without an individual (human).

        but overall, yes I agree; fuck trump with hamburgers, hilariously.

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      7 days ago

      Decent sometimes wins over indecent. And sometimes (certainly far too often) it doesn’t.

      To those of us spared, when decency won, it was worth it.