• MrSilkworm@lemmy.world
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    A few thousand years ago the ancient Greeks said:

    “δὶς ἐξαμαρτεῖν οὐκ ἀνδρὸς σοφοῦ”.

    Roughly meaning: A wise person doesn’t make the same mistake twise.

    But again some people keep doing it

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    i don’t think posts about him are appropriate here. the kind of dystopia wants to bring is not the boring kind. it’s straight up cartoonish shit, like the government from v for vendetta

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    Time and time again I remember this meme

    Basically democracy is government after the people, by the people, for the people . . . but people are retarded . . .

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    Is it too early to start talking about the abysmal failure of the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” strategy?

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    There is a saying…

    Make a mistake once and you can call it learning, make a mistake twice and you are eh… not so smart

    Americans need education.

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    What devil has this guy made a deal with? No matter how stupid, obnoxious or abrasive he is, people worship him. He constantly screws himself over and then before he has to face serious consequences he trips on a rock and somehow everything’s alright again for him. At this point he literally can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and get away of it. I think Trump is solid evidence that we’re living in a simulation and somebody is fucking with us, because life just doesn’t work the way it works for him. Somebody’s thumb is on the scale.

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      The day after he was convicted on his 30+ felonies, he had the biggest donation day of any politician in US history, probably Human history. Jeff Bezos prevented any news outlet he owned of endorsing Harris, Elon Musk Did a million dollar raffle for Trump voters. They DO NOT WANT to pay taxes, and they DO NOT want to pay people who make their money. That’s all this has ever been, and they know Trump would fuck his mothers corpse for a nickle and will absolutely shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class as hard as he can, and he has a majority in the legislature, and full stop OWNS the most extreme and corrupt Supreme Court we’ve ever seen, and he will stack it even higher this term. It is a GREAT time to be a corrupt politician in America, no one is going to taste a single consequence for this fuckery.

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        The Supreme Court knows he can’t be elected again and they already have their seats, they don’t owe him anything anymore

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        Yeah I know he got help from various billionaires, but Mr. and Mrs. Middle America ignored stuff that goes against their own character. Most people don’t associate with anybody who’s on trial for multiple felonies. They disapprove of guys who cheat on their wives. They would frown on a grown man saying “grab 'em by the pussy.” Trump is not a person decent churchgoing Americans normally idolize - let alone pastors and ministers. He has an uncanny charm with these people, which I chalk up to his con man ability. But even a con man loses his audience when he drops pretense and acts like an asshole. The Orange Sack of Shit seems unnaturally immune to that.

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      What devil has this guy made a deal with?

      He cut a Faustian Bargain with the soul of America. And like Faust, he gets to spend his days capering and clowning about his social superiors, making unholy mischief in a kingdom that is itself revealed to be terminally corrupt and wholely damned.

      Trump took the Objectivist philosophy that’s guided this country for a generation and embodied it. He is Reaganism in its manifest state. Just a guy entirely out for himself who has convinced 71M other people to do the same.

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        He can’t be the anti-christ because his political power lasted longer than 3 and a half years

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          Dw I really don’t take this stuff serious (not religious)

          It’s a fun read though

          But hey you can argue he’s getting 3.5 years twice now (4 minus lame duck twice)

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        Putin didn’t GAF about Donald Trump until he became useful enough. By that time the Orange Sack of Shit had already been stiffing creditors and skirting the law for decades, somehow living a life of abject luxury anyway, when if nature had taken its usual course he would have been a bankrupt nobody hustling $10 bar bets.

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    Biden must be laughing his ass off right now. Should have let the old guy run. Turns out no one really cared about the presidents age.

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    It’s 80 degrees in November. America has reelected a climate change denier. SUV sales continue to rise.

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    People need to stop blaming voters, we all need to start understand why this happen more and more in the world and not judge the voters for their decision. I have some theories but its not the time or place, but stop say “people are dumb” or “People need educations”… 100 million people cant be all dumb or uneducated, go deeper!

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        You’re telling me… There’s multiple issues and reasons in play… At the same time???

        This is getting entirely too complicated for me.

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        I also think part of the problem is that with the internet, we may just have a lot of data readily available, so much so people are overwhelmed they just tune it all out. We can spend a lot of time wondering why people vote the way they do but if the losing party doesn’t take the time to be retrospective and humble as to why they lost then I can’t blame people for that too much.

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      They’ve been conditioned for 8 years that any negative thing they read or hear about their leader is “fake news”, and likely their own pride of not wanting to consider the possibility they could be mistaken has made them easy targets for the misinformation machine at Fox News to avoid telling them objective facts to instead pander to their emotions and tell them what opinion they should have. Mass manipulation by biased media.

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      Im sorry, but if Gaza, egg prices, and Harris not havjng a Y chromosome is enough for a magat trifecta, the voters are the problem. Not just the ones who stay home or vote third party, all of them. Americans are whats wrong with America

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      It feels so fucking obvious to me and it has for the 20 years I’ve been voting, I fucking voted for dennis kucinich lol. There’s a reason Bernie was able to cut through the noise. He had a blunt and obvious, class based, economic ideology. That’s where he planted his flag.

      The ‘third way’ Democrat machinery seems to plant it’s flag on reactionary culture war issues. Even if that’s only the perception, not reality, they always take the bait.

      AND WHY THE FUCK DID IT TAKE SO GOD DAMNED LONG FOR TRUMP TO BE CHARGED FOR J6? If you want to call them Nazis you have to do Nuremberg when you have the fucking chance.

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      trump may be the iceberg that sinks the ship but people must not forget that it was obama that steered it so expertly there.

      whatever he has done in his eight years to engender such deeply entrenched hatred within the populace – so much that even morons like mr. 47 can exploit it so readily – needs to be studied so that it can be avoided in the future.

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        Obama didn’t start Fox news bro. Obama didn’t defund education and get rid of civics classes. Obama didn’t cut taxes on the billionaire class and corporations. Obama didn’t sell those same billionaires and conglomerates the major news outlets. The voting population in America only know what they’re told because they’re never taught to think critically. Look at the rise of disinformation regardless of political ideology. Look at the rise in scams.

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          you’re mixing up trump’s eventual misdeeds with the fact that the usa has undergone a massive transformation towards the right under the eight years of obama.

          i’m talking about the seeds which were sown, you’re talking about the harvest which followed. these are two separate things.

          each of your assertions have flourished under the manure of the obama tenure – even if they didn’t happen during his presidency.

          but, sure. live in denial and give him a pass. just don’t moan when history repeats itself. as a non-american, it’s no skin off my back.

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            Counter-point: the biggest thing Obama did to enrage the right was dare to be a successful black man. They’re the ones with the issue, man.

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      So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

      I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

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        How do you expect people to think any differently when there is nobody combatting that narrative at the national level? That is something the Democrats could have been hammering on.

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          Uh, just basic knowledge of how the President’s job works? Stuff we learn in grade school. Everyone should know this, but people are idiots.

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            Right, which is why you educate them and make the case for them to vote for you, or else the other side will spread their disinformation without any competing narrative. That’s kind of the entire point of a presidential campaign. Just calling people idiots isn’t going to make them not be idiots.

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        Anecdotally… About 75% of the right that I know/met.

        The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

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          Every time they’ll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against “collective amnesia” as we call it in Hungary.

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            Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is… Long.

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          Solid distinction.

          Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

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      I don’t expect everybody to be politically aware, but there’s “not politically aware” and then there’s whatever that is.

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      Grocery stores are making record profits. Do they really think they are going to voluntarily cut prices? They know there will be no oversight under trump (not that Biden did anything about price gouging). Prices are going to go up even higher.

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      Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he’s on their side. He’s winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

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        How do you get the Democrats to run somebody like Sanders when they don’t even have a primary? The DNC boned the entire country. Again.

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        I don’t pretend to know how to accomplish this. I may be completely wrong here, but two things that have to go:

        • Religious thought (“faithbrain” or the Peter Pan-esque belief that things are true because you believe they are true, despite a lack of evidentiary or even argumentative support, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary)
        • Social media bubbles (billionaires controlling the content people see, creating bubbles of “information” that skew the public in their favor)

        There’s almost certainly more to do as well, but those things stand out to me. Also, it seems hard to believe that we could make any progress on these fronts given the current situation.

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          This won’t change. Democrats have to take a lesson in human behaviour. Republican tactics work. Embrace them. Exploit them.

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            I keep waiting for the Left to fight dirty, but… We go high, they go low, and low is what gets elected

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          It matters to MAGA Republicans. Your friend is a legal immigrant, he’s here to stay and we 100% welcome him.

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            Ah, yes, just like the completely legal Haitian immigrants.

            Clearly, a well supported position from the republican party. Totally not the exact opposite of what came out of the pres elect and VP elect.

            Reminded a bit of a certain anchorman gif right about now…

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              Some Haitians are legal, and some are “legal” due to this sus app the new administration will be looking into. I think some from that app will stay and some will have to leave, but they’ll clear it up.

              Do you mean the eating cats and dogs thing? I’m glad that got cleared up. :)