Because you now did it to yourself.
You can blame religion for trump. A rapist con man who never goes to church is their new jesus. What a fucking cult.
We have always known why Hitler rose to power, and we know why Trump was reelected. When people are economically depressed and a man comes to you and tells you “This isn’t your fault, I will persecute those who are responsible and personally make things better for you.” It’s human nature, out of fear, frustration, or desperation to grasp that hand. We as a people are not ready to trust the guy who says “This is our fault, and it will be hard, but we have to fix this together”. Take everything you know about Hitler and Trump and OUR world out of it, take out your reasoning and tap into your monkey brain for a second and simply ruminate on those two propositions. Which one would you rather be true? You can’t honestly tell me the latter. You may know the latter is true, but it would be so much easier on you if the first was true.
Like it or not, we aren’t as evolved as we like to think, and those of us who consider ourselves enlightened are vulnerable to our lizard brains at one point or another.
Yeah, but it was never between Hitler and a woman! Yanks hate nothing more than women, so what did you expect?
Don’t play dumb, she was unpopular with the left and did nothing to help with it. “Eat it up because otherwise it’s trump” doesn’t get you votes.
Are you serious? She had ten times as many policy proposals than Trump. She’s not unpopular, she’s a woman.
…and not white.
It’s not that.
The turnout on the right was the same as 2020, the turnout on the left was shit.
Basically unless you give the left holy charismatic magic jesus like Obama, they stay home and whine like bitches.
The left wasnt asking for holy charismatic magic jesus, instead they were begging for an actual position against the ongoing genocide.
Well, there’s going to be a position now lol
To be honest I’d called a Trump victory early on, but how the fuck is he winning this hard? Hell he didn’t even need Michigan.
The biggest swing towards Trump was Latino men by 31 pts. Make your own conclusions.
In Germany Hitler only got around a third of the vote. Trump is winning the popular vote.
Is it because woman? Like holy shit, Biden was an old fuck and still won last time. Hillary didn’t win. Wtf, is it really because woman!?
Don’t worry guys. We’ll run another centrist in 2028 too. But this time it’ll work.
I hope in the last leg of their campaign they dig up Nixon’s bones and get a endorsement from him to try and draw in conservatives that don’t care one bit about Nixon, and alternate and demotivate their actual base of voters!
LOL. Voting in the USA is over. There will be no future elections. And I hope you like church.
it’s sarcasm mate but yeah I hope they like it too
Clearly the problem is that she didn’t move far enough to the right. She only got 2 Cheneys.
I know you’re trying to be an asshole but looking at the election results that apparently actually was the issue. Our electorate wants a right wing fascist
God damn, don’t you fucking get it? Fascists are NEVER going to accept that a Democrat is one of them. Fascists aren’t going to vote for you just because you adopt their policies and throw the right vulnerable populations under the bus. It doesn’t matter how far to the right the party moves, fascists will never buy it.
But the left sure as hell will notice who you want to be besties with and who you take for granted.
Moving to the right has failed. Now do the only thing centrists do besides simp for Republicans and become abusive.
I didn’t suggest we actually do it.
Like hell.
Yes, you did. And clearly you didnt look at the results. They say nothing about right wing policies trump was capped out and harris didnt have a platform to bring out her base. 20 million of them. Instead she shit on arabs, students, working class, lgbt+. She lost a huge upswing in support by tying herself to biden instrad of throwing him under the bus like she should have.
The writing was on the wall in 2020 when we argued about whether biden really committed to a single term.
We warned you, we pleaded with you, we scolded you that this would happen. But what do we know, we’re just russian trolls.
But what do we know, we’re just russian trolls.
We all went away today, as predicted.
I saw some smug person saying that today all the accounts who criticized Biden/Harris (as equally as Trump, mind you) would turn off today. I think I’m gonna at least crank out more shitposts just to spite that one person.
😶🌫️ im invisible.
Oh, you think Trump won’t break the barriers and sit for life?
Look at the guy. He’s going to die before the end of the term and Vance will take over. That’s when the real fun begins.
statistically, if he wins, he’s likely to sit for life even if he doesn’t cancel future elections (or however he plans to suppress democracy), because, you see, he is very old and likely to die soon (but probably not soon enough for my taste).
Based on how he did with his speech to his supporters, I don’t think that’ll be for very long…
Being a centrist is not Harris’ problem. Harris’ problem was being non-white and a woman in a nation of fickle uninformed voters.
Okay that’s just copium, but it’s jot because she was a centrist either. Harris wasn’t even trying to campaign competently or listen to her constituency; ultimately that’s what did her in.
Harris wasn’t even trying to campaign competently or listen to her constituency
Sounds exactly like a centrist to me.
Sure, that didn’t help, but she also was a “more of the same” candidate (she’s rhe current VP!)
As much as I wanted her to win, she was always a stupid choice in at a time where voters can essentially all agree on one thing: they want change.
Status quo politics is dead, the dems just haven’t realized it yet. As braindead as Trump and a most of his policies are, people like that he doesn’t give a shit about disrupting things to achieve his goals.
The problem is having a contested convention would have been just as bad. We all know what happened with McGovern in '72. The only chance was immediately unifying behind someone else and Harris was the only one people could agree on.
The main stupid decision was Biden not sticking to his word and choosing to run again despite his obvious unpopularity and age.
yes, his goals.
You’re right, I agree with you and I think his goals are both damaging and stupid… but at the end of the day his strategy is winning and we will obviously have to adapt to beat it.
we will obviously have to adapt
Democrats would rather lose and blame the left.
We ran a centrist in 2020 and it worked.
Biden wasn’t really a centrist in the same way Harris was. Biden ran on a progressive-ish platform, and mostly backed it up with action. He sure as hell didn’t run on fracking and locking up immigrants like Harris is.
… What the fuck are you talking about
The difference is she is a woman. Denying it won’t change a fucking thing.
Barely…
The Dems should definitely move more central on social issues, as the US election system has a huge built in rural bias.
Then focus on more broad-reaching progressive economic topics. Less focus on legislation targeting specific marginalized groups and more on policies which would impact everyone directly. As a potential example, Universal Basic Income (“Freedom Bonus” or whatever it was called) was one such policy which was floated a couple elections ago.
I’m watching it happen in real time and STILL questioning how it happened. Humans are some stupid motherfuckers. America burned its hand on Trump, and now a disturbing number of Americans are reaching for him again with the same hand, still blistered from the first time.
He literally killed more Americans than all previous wars after WWII combined, and no one gives a fuck. Truly indescribably baffling.
My one takeaway from this is that primaries are important. Republicans held a primary, nominated an incomprehensibly stupid candidate, and managed to win. Dems held no primary, Biden strong armed his way into the de-facto nomination for a second term, and was replaced by his VP when he imploded on the campaign trail. At no point did Dem voters ever get to have a say in their candidate this year. Not that Kamala or Joe are bad candidates, but clearly, they’re lacking something if Trump was able to win again after changing nothing from 2020.
So, the DNC fucked us again and we got Trump a second time in exactly the same way.
What?
Listen to any random Trump speech, replace “migrants” with “jews” and you have a Hitler speech.
We need a solution to this, because honestly the US just lost its democracy.
It’s 1933.
Any ideas on ways out of this?
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I don’t understand why you people only kill your good presidents.
I mean… McKinley was only so/so.
Because the good presidents were the ones who stood up against the evil Southern states.
"John Kennedy, murdered. Gandhi, murdered. Martin Luther King, murdered. Jesus, murdered. Reagan, wounded.” - Bill Hicks
At least 2 people decided to try this time
Jesus Christ, I just realized Jimmy Carted lived to see his country die.
Don’t think it won’t happen to you. When the incoming wave of Ukrainian refugees hits Europe, the populists that have already been growing in popularity will make their move. With the U.S. fallen, a lot of money and attention has been freed up to destabilize other countries.
It’s happening in Italy. It’s happening in the Netherlands. It’s happening in France. If you think you are ready for it, remember that we thought the same.
Irrelevant. The people who tried to stop it already know how Hitler came to power, and the ones who should ask how it happened — the ones you should address your post to — either don’t care or actively want another Hitler.
But hey, at least you slammed the people who tried their hardest, rather than actually address conservatives themselves, which would have required you actually confronting them. Glad you feel better, though.
