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JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

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  • Juice@midwest.social
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    Fuck Trump, Fuck Russia, Fuck the CIA.

    Its wild how a very rational anger and fear and concern about a Trump presidency becomes a very irrational support for many corrupt and downright evil organizations responsible for millions of deaths in the name of imperialism and profit.

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    BuT rUsSiA iS nOt An EnEmY!!1

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    I remember when I had my clearance, we were told anything we worked on was classified for a minimum of like 75 years, unless it was declassified earlier. I remember because they told is if we were 18, we could potentially legally talk about our work at the age of 93, assuming the classification wasn’t extended.

    Anyway, part of that briefing was the outlining of consequences should we leak any classified information. We were told if the information we leaked resulted in the death of an intelligence officer anywhere in the world, we could and likely would be tried for treason. And the punishment for treason during a time of war (Global War on Terror, amiright) could be death.

    So… He’ll be charged with treason like any of us plebs would have been, right? Right?!

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      Wouldn’t it be great if Trump had to follow the same laws as normal people. He’s a complete traitor to the country.

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        At this point, I’d settle for even a subset of the same laws. It is somehow none of the laws.

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          I wouldn’t be surprised if he also trespassed the laws of physics. Luckily this is unlikely

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            It he could, he would. He thinks laws are for little people. Unimportant people. Not him.

    • affiliate@lemmy.world
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      they will probably make an exception for him because he’s a Very Good Businessman. just think about what he may have gotten in exchange for the list of spies. perhaps some compliments from putin, maybe even a pat on the back.

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        He probably got to avoid having sex tapes released. Epstein was probably working with multiple intelligence agencies. The Russians probably just paid the most for those videos.

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      They were probably blustering about the treason thing.

      Because “treason” was specifically abused by Britain, the US Constitution puts specific requirements on the crime of treason. In particular, there have to be two independent eyewitnesses to the treasonous act. Meanwhile, the Espionage Act has no such prosecutorial burden, and the penalties are just as severe…

      • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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        It’s been a while since I had it, so you may be right. Though, I do remember they were very specific it would only meet treason if it resulted in an intelligence officers death, but I don’t remember under what Act or law they were interpreting from.

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        It’s all the same… Only the names are are changed

        Everyday

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    Just Treason things.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
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      As a little treat.

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    So the CIA probably killed MLK, Malcom X and JFK but the dude who is actually getting agents killed is just walking around unscathed?

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      Well, we know for certain the CIA killed MLK because they admitted it in court when the MLK family sued the CIA.

      • ABCDE@lemmy.world
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        Yeah no.

        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/government-mlk-assassination/

  • SmoothOperator@lemmy.world
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    Are there any sources for this?

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      An extremely quick google resulted in these, among many others:

      https://www.salon.com/2019/08/03/trumps-white-house-issues-an-ominous-request-for-a-list-of-top-u-s-spies_partner/

      https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/amp/

    • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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      yup, dumps talked about most of this publicly, and the rest is confirmed by intelligence agencies and news outlets.

      "On 7/31/2019 Trump has a private meeting with Putin.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/10/04/trump-has-spoken-privately-with-putin-least-times-heres-what-we-know-about-conversations/

      On 8/3/2019, just 3 days after his private meeting with Putin, Trump issues a request for a list of top US spies.

      https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-asks-for-list-of-top-intel-officials-amid-intelligence-shakeup

      -By 2021 the CIA reports an unusually high number of their agents are being captured and/or being .murdered.

      https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/#:~:text=Leading counterintelligence officials issued a,were being captured and executed.

      -During the search executed at Mar A Lago the FBI find more documents with lists of US informants on them.

      https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/10/politics/mar-a-lago-search-informant-documents-donald-trump/index.html "

      i’m pretty sure it’s an open case that prosecutors are looking into.

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        i’m pretty sure it’s an open case that prosecutors are looking into.

        If I had a dollar for every “looking into” related to the Trump presidency that resulted in absolutely no consequences for Trump ever, I’d have… all the dollars?

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          Nobody wants to be on the naughty-list of a person this powerful. Even if he loses, the Republican party and all its office-holding members will still to some degree answer to him. He’s not someone you want to pick a fight with unless you are willing to sacrifice something.

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          you do not know what you’re talking about.

          dumps is a 34-time felony convict from just one case and is facing many more convictions, He’s liable for rape and half a billion dollars, he’s already paid 100 million.

          He’s been challenged as to his presidential eligibility in courts, and that’s still going on also.

          there have been consequences for his actions, and more are coming.

          they’re literally deciding those consequences and employing further legal actions leading to more consequences right now.

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      There’s these but I don’t think they’re really connected

      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/politics/trump-affidavit-intelligence-spies.html

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    sources:

    "On 7/31/2019 Trump has a private meeting with Putin.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/10/04/trump-has-spoken-privately-with-putin-least-times-heres-what-we-know-about-conversations/

    On 8/3/2019, just 3 days after his private meeting with Putin, Trump issues a request for a list of top US spies.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-asks-for-list-of-top-intel-officials-amid-intelligence-shakeup

    -By 2021 the CIA reports an unusually high number of their agents are being captured and/or being .murdered.

    https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/#:~:text=Leading counterintelligence officials issued a,were being captured and executed.

    -During the search executed at Mar A Lago the FBI find more documents with lists of US informants on them.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/10/politics/mar-a-lago-search-informant-documents-donald-trump/index.html "

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
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      for everyone: even if you don’t read these give them a few clicks for the algorithm

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      goat

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    also, Trump is a rapist.

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      src for those who are too lazy to Google: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000

      • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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        you posted a non-Summarized PDF for people who are too lazy to Google?

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          It’s a result that you might get if you were searching for this kind of thing. So posting it here saves the step of having to search.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    yet he walks. there is more behind him than we are allowed to see

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    And it changed nothing. Vote this fucker out of your lives.

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    And this is just one amongst hundreds of scandals of similar severity

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    This gonna need a citation

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      https://sh.itjust.works/comment/14822482

    • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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      Someone dropped a load of citations in the thread. Look for the big post with all the links.

      • brisk@aussie.zone
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        Cheers. It took 5 full days for the comments to federate to my instance after this post, so this post was a ghost town on my end until today.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆@yiffit.net
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    There used to be a time when this kind of shit led to a swift execution. Now we can’t even get the fuckface in jail.

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      There used to be a time when this kind of shit led to a swift execution.

      Dude, that’s absolutely not true. After the Civil Fucking War numerous rebel generals went right back home and ran for high office. Others got jobs as professors or retired to lavish estates that were never broken up. Still others founded the KKK. The Feds let it happen then.

      Also, let’s not forget Reagan feeding the Iranians intel during hostage negotiations. Or Bush evacuating Saudi officials after 9/11. Or any number of intelligence leaks from Congressman Nunes, Michael Flynn, Tom DeLay, the list goes on.

      The only people we execute in this country are scapegoats, civil rights activists, and the poor. Actual traitors get to walk damned near every time.

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        Look further back in time in the history of the entire world, dude.

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    And keep in mind, all of this is what we know publicly. Imagine all we don’t.

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      Thanks I’m panicking now! 🫠

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    We could power a clean future by attaching a turbine to Tom Clancy’s corpse.

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