Truly a pretty terrible place for any kind of social activity.
People here are super self righteous and unwavering in their beliefs, quick to insult others and be generally bitchy, pedantic and quick to dogpile. Worst of all while still usually slightly wrong about a thing, but unwilling to hear it.
It’s basically the worst parts of reddit users where we have boiled it down to the most affluent or socially insecure.
Even if it’s as simple as a question people jump to defend their position with insults rather than answer it cause they get worried the person might be confused and it’s best to just make sure it’s a closed community as quick as possible.
This isn’t an open community it’s a private gated one where everyone jumped the fence and is scared that the wrong person might have come in with them.
Condescending is not welcoming.
Upvoting cause they are your in group isn’t community.
Berating outcasts cause you at least don’t feel like them is still bullying.
Hey man they are just morons and downvotes. Being offended is simply the cost of free speach. U can choose not to give a fuck or u can choose to take it personally its up to u.
Hexbear, grad, and ml are fucked so u can disregard anything they say or do. If people arnt engaging in good faith call em out on it or just call em a cunt up to u.
I call them a cunt and I get yelled at for being unprofessional in a social media platform and I get banned for them being an an instigator that purposefully states incorrect and inflammatory things.
It has happened. I’ve been called a lot of things and responding to it saying it’s bait from an asshole got me banned for like 7 days months ago on a lemmy.world news thread. The person got upvotes and praise for sticking up for themselves.
This platform likes the bad faith and calling them out is an attack on the in groups that like it. This is a large part here and why I think it’s bad at being a welcoming community.
I want it to move in a better direction not just pretend that it’s fine and ignore it. But I’m coming around to not caring. Not thinking about things seems to be standard, and safer for people’s lives.
This is only a problem for you because you arnt going along with the narrative.
Stop thinking for yourself do as your told or you will be punished for your thought crimes.
In all seriousness tho i think the more people of differing political views the more the hate will be equallity divided making the pile on not as bad.
I get where you’re coming from. This platform made me realize once and for all that I’m not a leftist, despite thinking of myself as one for most of my adult life. But I’m definitely not a conservative either, so I’m rudderless. A lone wolf.
Anyways, to the original point, there are a lot of toxic people here. They were on Reddit too, but there was a lot more to dilute their presence. Be active with your blocklist, and use an app that allows you to filter words and instances. Those few actions will drastically change your experiences on Lemmy. It changed mine enough that I went from being an inch away from leaving forever, to actually enjoying most of my time here. And heck, I learned something about myself in the process, and continue learning every day. No sense in only being around people you agree with, that’ll just stunt your growth as a person.
Well, the technical term people use for someone not left and not right, is “centrist” :D
You forgot where their feelings about a subject hold more weight that your facts. Its usually over some childish pearlclutching.
I have a different experience. I have not blocked anyone or amt instance. I am om lemmy.world, so that might be it?
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I can see why you hate everyone here. 🫠
What? If you got stuff say it.
Well that’s piqued my interest so I glanced over your comments. I have to point out that yes, people respond badly to you sometimes, reminding me of reddit.
You should know that you seem unaware that your comments occasionally have a pugnacious or even bellicose tone, not necessarily intentionally mind you, but noticeable. Sometimes dismissive or contemptuous attitudes leak out and hostile replies state they are responding to that. It’s not simple bullying, it’s buttons being pushed.
Thank you! I actually appreciate the honesty. That’s something I can work with.
Maybe, hopefully.
I don’t think it is far different from the snark I see but I don’t think I should emulate that I guess if I hate it when done to me. I just don’t like having to take the high road just cause I apparently invite it.
It has some crazy, but I’ve found it refreshingly with it in many ways. People here generally understand that getting paid enough money instead of ripped off by a billionaire is good. The stuff you shouldn’t have to filter for.
Twitter made me hate people. FB made me realize just how dumb people are. Reddit made me realize that there are no good guys in positions of power. Bluesky is actually pretty chill. But I prefer this format. A forum style.
One thing I noticed is alot of people on Lemmy think that everything on the internet should be free and have no ads. In a perfect world this would be great but most of the sites people regularly use are expensive to operate and wouldn’t exist. I do use as blocker and pirate stuff sometimes but I also pay for YouTube premium and a couple other services. Plus I go to movie theaters whenever there is a movie I really want to see and support.
Get a instance that doesn’t federate with .ml instances or hexbear, block the Lemmy.world political communities and you can enjoy Lemmy mostly without assholes.
+1 for unpopular. I think planet earth is worse platform.
Yeah well you try implementing physics to prevent activity from being contrived!
Yeah I’m starting to think it’s just nature of people to be shitty.
Any subject at all and if someone thinks themselves better than you (and they will) then it’s practically pointless. They just like the high of feeling right more than anything else.
Edit: also near 50/50 split so I guess this was an unpopular opinion
I agree. Lemmy is the most unwelcoming social media platform I’ve ever been to. It’s why I no longer recommend it to anyone. People be like, “just leave Twitter,” but then don’t have the tiniest bit of tolerance for views that even slightly differ from their own. This doesn’t just apply to the comments either - my highly curated feed, with over 500 of the most toxic users blocked, still mostly consists of people complaining. Look at me; I’m complaining too.
Thats a lot of blocking lol and our monthly user counts is like 50k
Like most people say if you want more pleasant experience, it’d be better to avoid politics.
Dank memes is also tangled with politics and crudeness anymore and outlived their days.
Also you don’t need to feel obligated to respond to rude or unpleasant people, just block em’ and go about your own interest.
Lastly treat others how you would like to be treated. If you just go around trying to counterpoint argue and call everyone terrible then you might suffer some backlash.
I find that if you avoid the political and news forums and some of the meme forums, you avoid 90% of the assholery that exists on Lemmy. But that’s true for Reddit as well and I think is probably just a truism about the internet in general.
It’s not really the people, I think, that is the problem; it’s that people feel strongly about politics and when they have the anonymity and disconnection of the internet to free them from true social accountability, we express ourselves in increasingly overconfident and arrogant ways, which obviously pisses other people off and creates arguments. In other words, the internet is ideal for festering toxic debating environments. Our psychology just wasn’t meant for it.
Someone argued with me and called me a lot of rude things cause I called them privileged for them saying everyone should just buy an extra computer that they can use to run linux.
Like when I called them out on it and said it’s a lot for people to just buy multiple devices for the sake of being both on Linux and Windows if people don’t have a purpose for Linux he called me a troll and spoke down to me as if his existence and level of life was what everyone else lives.
It’s not just politics. It’s not even the politics that upsets me it’s the condescending self righteous know it all attitude that’s everywhere in this platform. That their life is objectively the way to be. It’s pompous and that’s absolutely the users.
cause I called them privileged
I mean, if you cast the first stone, don’t be surprised if people pelt you back, dude.
Third message after they told me to “get gud” for not being able to buy another PC and then treating me like a toddler for saying it didn’t make sense to own multiple PCs just to have one we don’t use for Linux and he asked if he “held my little hand long enough”
I ain’t casting many stones first unless you consider the questions and the follows up an invitation to attack.
Some Linux users can be so toxic it’s cringe.
And I use Linux.
Any link to that thread?
Hm, they still said
If you weren’t trying to be rude and it came off that way by mistake, my bad
But yeah, not the best interaction indeed
Yeah I was already upset by that point and they started by still doubting that I just wanted to ask a question and called me a bullshitter…
But it’s my point. It makes conversations a fight to be right more than a conversation with no backing off. And by the end it just becomes 2 people being awful to each other for spectators.
It feels bad from my perspective and I don’t learn anything.I think the platform inspires snark and winner takes all mentality.
I think the platform inspires snark and winner takes all mentality.
It’s really community dependant. As I said, tech communities can be quite toxic
There are two keys to success for an internet community:
- limit the conversation to a circumscribed subject
- have decent moderation
This has not changed since the 90s. It’s the reason that any community devoted to “world news” or “politics”, whether it be here or on the R-site or anywhere else, is destined be a train wreck whereas one on “gardening” or “classic BMWs” or whatever will generally be pleasant.
Fair-minded moderation is what turns a cesspool into a merely unpleasant hangout, or a decent community into a great one.
IMO the gold standard for a successful community is clearly Hacker News, which (logically) combines a well-defined purpose with top-notch moderation. Rather than just deleting comments and handing out bans, the moderator there intervenes in discussions to push them back on course, often in a plaintive manner that appeals to people’s good sides. The positive results of this approach were even the subject of a feature article in the New Yorker.
This is a not a technical problem as much as a human one. Restrict the bounds of conversation, then take a smart approach to moderation. Success will follow.
Also noticing people literally up voting conversations around me and avoiding what I say cause you already want to disagree with me.
As always someone say something you don’t want to agree with must be downvoted even if it adds or even is the conversation.
Heaven to Betsy you get tainted with my wickedness. Be scared and run and mock.
