Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can’t happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we’d be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You do realize the super delegates never came into play right? I mean I’m sure they would have if they needed them to but it never got that far.

    • Kalysta@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      I watched the DNC do everything they could to throw the election to the worst candidate they have ever run, simply because their donors didn’t want to give everyone health care.

      That election turned an entire generation into people who don’t bother voting because nothing will ever change.

      We didn’t even fucking GET a primary this time. How can I vote in a primary that doesn’t even really exist? The Democrats end up with the candidate they want one way or another.

      • nictophilia@fedia.io
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        2 months ago

        The stupid ass Russian propaganda that you people swallowed afterwards turned you into a generation of non voters.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      They were actively endorsing Hilary.

      Yes, they came into play, even if they didn’t yet cast their vote.

      • njm1314@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        That’s their right as americans. Anyone can endorse anyone they want. That’s called freedom of speech.

        I don’t see how that would have any effect on anything however though. Or how it’s in any way untoward. If you’re suggesting that one of these super delegates supposed endorsement of Hillary Clinton pushed leftists to vote for her though I’d love to see how you justify that argument.

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          That’s their right as americans. Anyone can endorse anyone they want. That’s called freedom of speech.

          As a private person, yes. As a representative of the DNC… only if the DNC allows you to. Same as how you’re not allowed to say “[I am an X for Y employer] and we support Mickey Mouse for President” without consequence (probably getting fired, unless you’re specifically authorized to announce it,).

          As for how it affects primaries, you remember all the backlash people got for saying Biden was a bad candidate? All the calls for “party loyalty”? Same thing. That’s how it affects things.

          • njm1314@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Delegates are in no way employed by a party. The entire point of delegates is to endorse a candidate. So these hypothetical super delegates and their supposed endorsement in no way is equal to a direct employee of the party endorsing a candidate.

            That’s how what affects things? You’re saying that leftist didn’t vote for Bernie Sanders because liberals said that would be bad for the party? Well they’re pretty shitty leftists then aren’t they? Why is it so God damn easy for leftists not to vote? I mean the wind changes and suddenly they decide that voting is pointless. I have trouble believing you actually believe this. I have trouble believing any at leftist is so easily cowed as to not vote for their best interest because a capitalist says they shouldn’t.