In this analogy, did Princess Leia build the Death Star and blow up Alderaan? Ridiculous levels of whitewashing.
Yeah, what’s her specific plan to tackle the issues that people care about?
She has a concept of a rebellion
Brilliant
Haha, I can’t up vote this enough.
That’s what rebellions are built on! Or was that rebelling… Nope, it was hope. Almost forgot
Libs just can’t help themselves from casting Harris as innocent/brave/heroic as seen in this meme. Vote for her if you want to, but stop forgetting that she is (also) a genocidal monster. As is Biden, as is Trump, as is Vance, as is Walz as are most of your senators and reps.
So your argument is that everybody is evil and thus we should give up voting and thus ensuring that there is no hope for democracy vs. Accepting even 1% chance that this election won’t change our future for the better?
Lol removed for “misinformation”. I’m saying that a system that produces genocides, no matter who you vote for is a lost cause. It sucks, it’s depressing, and I don’t fault you for coping with it however you see fit. For myself, well, I can’t explain myself too well without sounding like I’m insulting you, but I won’t sign my name in support of someone who looks an awful lot to me (okay mods?) like a genocidal monster.
I know Vader choked the life out of the last person who questioned him, but I haven’t seen Leia do enough challenging media interviews.
American political culture is based on hollywood bullshit. I would laugh if it wasn’t so shocking tbh.
Imagine making fun of a genocide so you can cope about voting for a genocider.
2 hour old obvious burner account. Definitely not a Russian asset, nope nothing like that on lemmy.
I’m just a lurker. I usually have zero interests in interacting with you idiots, I just wanna read the news.
But recently it have been astroturfed by a bunch of yank, so I’m taking a stand.
they are just pr interns hired by the two parties, basically paid to flood any social media post critical of their candidates. most of them are dipshits unable to land a job after college. they will go back to insta once elections are over.
the absolute cringe content of these posts would tell you they have lower iq than trump.
I’ve been in and out of politics for a while and I’ve never heard of this job.
Could you please point it out to me in the DNCs financials?
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-parties/DNC/2024/expenditures
checkout the communications and community engagement department here. the funds to this programs should be under national or state committees quota
Okay so no evidence, just a link to the DNC internship page.
"I’m not Russian asset, it is they (the people with coherent arguments) who are paid to speak.
lmao, are you just blindly copy pasting from some templates. forget coherent, there are zero arguments in this thread, just you russian, you don’t agree so you also russian
I don’t think you know what astroturfing is.
People who have 0 interest in something aren’t likely to do it without being prompted. So are you being paid?
Just a troll. It’s antiyanks, who got banned and has made multiple accounts to evade it.
Can we IP ban the little chud or something?
I’m not sure if that’s a thing on Lemmy, but it’s sorely needed. The little troll is back on another account lmao
only the source instance (where you created your account) has your IP.
Oo. I should have noticed it was a troll account. I’ll alert the mods.
Since you’re having trouble understanding what is being made fun of, I can help you.
A genocide is not being made fun of.
To find out more about what is being made fun of, I recommend a mirror.
Humour is not neutral. We laugh about things that brings us joy.
For some it’s goofy cats. For some it’s dead arabs. You are the later.
Ahah
Again, genocide is not what is being made fun of. You are what is being made fun of.
And it’s pretty amusing that I’ve had to explain that to you twice because you didn’t get it the first time.
Edit: Also, you think Princess Leia’s name is Princess Leila. LOL! You’re right, laughing at you does bring me joy.
I really wonder what kind of human see this and doesn’t see you as a sheer asshole.
The thing with ethno-centrist is that they think their referential should be universal. America first. Ahah this foreigner doesn’t know the name of whatever hollywood bullcrap character. What an idiot /s
You are not better than a maga idiot, really. You are just too stupid to realize you are a fascist too.
Ethno-centrist? Please tell me what my ethnicity is.
yank
Sorry, “Yank” is not an ethnicity. Also, I have dual citizenship.
On the other hand, if “Yank” is an ethnicity, that would make all of your statements about “Yanks” quite racist. Is that really what you want to be seen as?
Geographist 😞
Do you sometime show kindness to people around you or are you just a scum all the time I wonder?
Also in your analogy sinwar would obviously be leila. Trump is dark vader, Biden is palpatine and her darth harris or something. Manipulative as shit. What else to expect from the yanks beside lies and genocide apology, I wonder?
I must have missed the part of the movie where Leia devotes a significant amount of her planets resources to building the deathstar while her constituents screamed for her to stop
Evidently you did, because it’s mentioned that she was a member of the Imperial Senate right up till it was dissolved. She participated directly in the government that built a weapon of mass destruction and used it to commit a genocidal act of state terrorism. Thankfully, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they never invented purity testing so people like you weren’t wrenching their spines in an effort to suck their own dicks about it.
Clearly, the solution is to vote in the Imperial Senate if you want to affect change.
Unless you’re trying to say Kamala Harris is secretly working for Hamas or something?
She was still in the senate when her ship was captured by Vader at the beginning of Star Wars.
Leia: I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor.
That sums it up well. Leia wasn’t unclear about her morals and goals. She was working in government with the intention of making things better, instead of sitting outside of government and bitching while doing nothing to help.
The baddies were sick of her constant efforts to derail their plans, so once they had enough fascist power to start going after their political rivals, they went after her.
Being in government does not make everyone automatically a willing participant of all of that government’s policies. You wouldn’t accuse Bernie or AOC of being cozy with GOP bullshit. But people around here are very happy to blame Harris for everything they perceive to be going wrong in the gov, while casually dismissing that Trump is 10X worse at the same topics.
Michelle Obama made a speech on this. Trump is not getting demands. She is.
Mr Concept of a Plan after 8 years isn’t pushed at all. Meanwhile, we need more details on the articulated plans of Harris. It’s quite the mismatched standard.
Also, Biden is her boss. She’s not the boss yet. New bosses do different things with the company when they take over.
And they don’t publicly undercut the old bosses while being second in charge especially in sensitive diplomatic situations.
Exactly. Maybe Harris is in lockstep with Biden on Israel or maybe it would just be a really bad idea to undercut him while she needs his support.
Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.
I’m old enough to remember that Al Gore didn’t rock the Clinton boat either. I doubt he would have been another Bill Clinton.
Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.
TrumpHarris is just saying that to appeasethe Deep StateZionist voters, but once they’re in office, they’ll reveal that it was all an act and they’re actually going to do all the stuff we want. Trust the plan.If only we got to see what Gore would have done differently… Sigh.
She was working in government with the intention of making things better
She was literally working for a rebellion actively fighting a war with the aim of overthrowing the government.
were you fed lead as a kid ? she has regularly held press conferences in full support of netanyahu and confirmed her policy on gaza is going to remain the same as biden.
she has repeatedly stopped any anti-israel democrats from speaking in her rally while mostly dodging any questions around or just straight up spewing vile vomit like here
harris is more of a Vizier and blinken tarkin.
Well you would have to have a spine to know what thats like so I understand why the people bravely tonguing the asshole of the administration lying to us and circumventing Congress to continue arming their pet dictator’s ethnic cleansing wouldn’t get it
Maybe if you plugged away at it for a while you could come up with an even more flaccid and contrived rebuttal.
I see that you understand that, much like a vice president, that is something someone with the powers of a princess can do.
Removed by mod
More female storm troopers!
Vader didn’t blow up a planet. He didn’t stop it from getting blown up but he was more of an accessory to it.
Yeah, all he did was help Palpatine build the Death Star, and it was Tarkin who actually gave the order. Do these anti-Vader people even understand what his role is as Sith Lord?
These single-issue voters who refuse to vote for Vader just because of the Adaraan issue are just helping Palpatine. Why does everyone suddenly care so much about Aldaraan anyway?
Humorless and missing the point deliberately as usual, I see.
Meanwhile in the real world, Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden’s ceasefire plan.
Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden’s ceasefire plan.
That’s conspiracy to commit genocide. That is a capital offense. How come that guy is allowed to run?
This election is a sham.
And Biden pretends to be upset about that while overriding congress to send him more weapons, completely unconditionally. Just like how he’s been unconditionally supportive of Israel his entire career.
Don’t confuse your conspiracy theory cope that Biden or Kamala are secretly pro-Palestine, contrary to all their actions and statements, with “the real world.”
At a certain point, arguing that they’re legitimately trying and failing to rein Netanyahu in, when he’s completely dependant on our protection, means arguing that they are so absurdly and comically incompetent that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the levers of power for fear that they might slip on a banana peel and catch themselves on the button that launches the nukes. They’re not idiots, they’re doing it because this is what they want.
I love how you talk so much about the Democrats as if the Republicans wouldn’t be worse and as if Trump hasn’t admitted to phoning Netanyahu frequently to tell him not to agree to Biden’s ceasefire plan.
My criticism of the Democrats has nothing to do with the idea of the Republicans “not being worse.” I just believe, unlike you, that truth doesn’t stop being true when it’s inconvenient. Party loyalty has rendered you completely incapable of acknowledging reality, whether you can’t see it, or whether you do see it but won’t admit what you see.
I’ll ask again since you refuse to answer: do you think that Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop bypassing Congress to send weapons to Israel?
Biden shits his pants “Why would Trump do this?”
When did you stop hitting your wife?
Are you denying the fact that Biden has bypassed congress to send weapons to Israel? Because if so you are dead wrong.
Trump didn’t stop Jamal Kashoggi from getting murdered with a meat saw, so I guess they’re similar that way.
Was he particularly in a position to stop that?
Stopping him from getting murdered by the Saudis? Maybe.
Done something about it afterward? Definitely.
He did do something about it… he blew up an Iranian General…
/s
In your idiotic movie, princess whatever didn’t sell weapons to the empire.
What’s the temperature in moscow? I could look it up but heck, you’re right here.
Your options are The Trade Federation or the Old Republic.
Count Dooku or Senator Palpatine
And stop asking what happened to all those Younglings. The Trade Federation would kill far more Jedi if they were in power.
more like pre-palpatine republic vs empire.
A big theme of the Prequel Series (and a reason for its insurgent popularity) stems from the strong anti-war themes.
The Old Republic became the Empire as it was consumed by the mass militarization of its greedy, self-righteous, and power hungry elites.
The Jedi fell into Palpatine’s trap when they surrounded themselves with Space Cops, foolishly believing endless escalation made them safer.
yet you seem to forget that the entire clone war era was a government that had become largely pacifist and demilitarized suddenly needing to deal with racist space turbocapitalists, leaving them scrambling and reliant on Palatine’s indoctrinated space cops to stop the literal corpratist takeover of the galaxy
Comparing Kamala to either is unhinged
I agree that making real life comparisons to fantasy characters can quickly become silly.
I know this isn’t the point, but The Trade Federation were a Neimoidian megacorporation that was a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, which Count Dooku founded.
Wasnt dooku a sith? Thus was working for palpatine and the whole war was a plot to undermine the old republic to create an empire that palpatine directly controlled.
Yup
Did Leia keep claiming she wants the most lethal military in the galaxy too?
She was a leading figure in a paramilitary organisation, both before and after the death of the emperor. So, maybe?
What do you think the United States is more like? A guerilla insurgency or a miltaristic empire imposing its will on the rest of society?
First one, then the other.
I think he was saying that the US began as am insurgency.
Good point and interpretation. Didn’t think of the language as a progression in time instead of a ranking.
So Leia isn’t a great analog. Maybe a Vader / Palpatine election would be closer to realityI misread that, hold up.
The United States of America spends more money on it’s military than the next 10 countries COMBINED.
The United States has ~800 military bases all around the world in foreign countries.
This doesn’t sound like an empire to you?
Well you’re wrong
Yeah, you’d think that would be exactly what she wanted.
Leia was leader of the imperial police?
Y’all can’t distinguish between movies and reality.
So the internet certainly tells me.
How the fuck do you cast the democrats as having no agency
How do YOU force them to have agency but let Republicans do whatever the fuck they want, then punish lefties for it?
What the fuck are you even talking about right now?? The democrats are in office!!
Who do you think is president right now? I know you probably wish it was Putin or Xi, but let’s just focus on the US candidates as they are, even if its hard. And let’s be clear: neither is a lefty, but one is much, MUCH closer than the other.
I’m pretty confused. Can you read? Antioutsideaktion is saying the Dems are currently in power… I’m sure he knows Biden is president right now. That’s why the question asked was how can you cast the Democrats as having no power? Because they have power now.
Oh yeah I read fine. At least 5th grade level.
The post is about the election in meme format, and the person running for the D camp is not perfect and also not IN POWER, she is the VP. If you want to throw shade, that’s cool I guess, but it means you’re indirectly supporting Trump, which is about the dumbest thing a person that is self-aware can do. Kamala is not perfect to be sure, but I can think of at least one candidate who is WAY fucking worse.
I’m sure you think you’re cute, but just like LOTR, Tom Bombadil is worth getting fucking cut for being generally moronic (and I read all the songs for some stupid reason).
the person running for the D camp is not perfect and also not IN POWER, she is the VP.
Seriously…
if you want to ask to vote against trump then do that. here you are making a fool of yourself when harris has repeatedly said she will continue biden’s genocide. does she has power over her own policy or she is just cardboard candidate controlled by aipac. the irony of you talking about self-awareness.
and she has also been very eagerly taken credit for anything good that has happened in last 4 years, she can’t have it both ways. go hag dnc as they are one who are doing everything possible to get trump elected.
Make a fool of YOURSELF and get trump elected so he kills every last brown person from any continent. I’m a white dude and it’s no skin off ass, but if you want to wear pie on your face, go ahead .ml idiot.
Edit: double fuck off with your dipshit 17 day account. It’s easy to make a new account and talk shit. Let’s fuckin go, moron.
If you don’t clap for our meme you are the enemy and no I’m not a nazi why do you ask
I’m not asking anything, I’m telling you D is bad, R is worse and if you want to stand on D being bad you’re an idiot. Period done.
Yea, everyone knows that when one party is in office all the opposing party members go on vacation until a president from their party is elected 🤡
You’re an absolute idiot, the parties comprise the government regardless of who’s POTUS.
People gotta confuse reality with movies in order to justify their support for genocide.
I’ll support kamalacaust when, instead of running for leader of a genocidal empire, she leads a rebel army against it.
Lol touch grass 🤭
Abstentionism supports genocide.
Got it, you like genocide
Technocrit supports genocide, got it.
Single issue voting 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Spicy thread and I’m just going to go get my popcorn
No, you must participate! You’re the reason this country is falling apart!!
Leia said she will be a dictator on day one. She will be worsr than Vader. The choice is obvious.
