• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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      America has a two party system, and one of those parties is going to win.

      Harris is predictable and most importantly, sane.

      Trump is unpredictable and most importantly, he doesn’t even know what he is going to do.

      With this in mind it seems American voters who do care about the plight of Palestinians must vote for the lesser of two evils. If you’re getting something evil you better choose the least evil right?

      Unless you refuse to play the game, but nothing changes anyway.

      Disclaimer: Not American, supports Palestine.

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        You’re german. The only other country with the brits that still supports israel. Sorry, but your opinion about genocide have zero value lmao.

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          I’m not German. I’m British.

          I’m sorry that I can’t just go and overrule my government on their foreign policy, how lame of me.

          Seriously, what you want me to do bro? You know nothing of my life and the actions I take in support of Palestine.

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            Quit telling the yanks to vote for genociders. They should throw trump in jail and stop using him as a strawman to divert people for their own crimes.

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              I would fucking love to throw that man in prison for one of his dozens of crimes, but I also recognize that I don’t have the power to do that. I do have some small amount of power over whether or not he goes into the fucking white house.

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              I live in reality mate.

              Trump or Harris are going to win. Trump will be worse for Palestine than Harris, it’s that simple.

              If I tie you to a chair and tell you I’m either going to remove one of your eyes, both of your eyes, and if you don’t choose then I’ll remove both of them. I am sure you will reluctantly choose to have one of your eyes removed.

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              Yeah, let’s just “throw Trump in jail”! Duh! Why didn’t anybody else think of that?! You’re so smart and enlightened! Tell me, who should Americans vote for that would satisfy your gargantuan intelligence? Keep in mind that it’s either Harris or Trump (anyone else is a vote for Trump). Use your massive intellect to give us the solution so our frail minds don’t support genocide!

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        No, it’s just one persistent troll who keeps making new accounts on different instances when they get banned. This is like the fourth instance they’ve used.

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    Sally some people think “revenge” is a good enough platform to qualify sometime for the top office. As long as the revenge is at least pretending to target people they already don’t like or that they’ve been programmed to think had wronged them in some way.

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      Most Trump supporters don’t seem to realize that he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. Well, unless they’re members of Mar-a-Lago. I think that’s included in the membership, but I’m gonna guess that job gets delegated to Don Jr. or Eric.

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    I don’t care how selfish that dog acted, I would vote for them 1000 times before ever considering Trump.

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    Sadly a lot of people unironically think that these captions should be reversed, because revenge = violence and that’s Chad af and helping others is for wusses, or something

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      Also, hundreds of years of prosperity gospel. If you’re poor or suffering, then you must have done something wrong because God is punishing you. If you’re thriving, then you must be good because God is rewarding you. That’s one reason why the police go after poor people more heavily. There more likely to pull over an old beater car than they are a new pickup truck. So if you want to commit crimes just drive a newer truck because they won’t even look at you. Even better if you put a thin line sticker somewhere.

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        Not “hundreds of years”, don’t let them make you think it’s old. The idea that “God wants you to be wealthy and healthy and being poor and sick is because you displeased God” only really goes back to the start of the last century, and gained a lot of traction with the Jesus People type revivals in the 70s, when faith healing became a serious mainstream thing in the US. The larger portion of devout US Christians were largely fairly apolitical to left-leaning until about the 50s.

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    But I don’t know what is better for me and my country… -Dumb undecided voter

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    Walk in with a to do list??? She is in office now and did shit for us for 4 years. Yeah thats gonna change lol

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      I think you have to adjust your expectations of politics in America. By your standards no one has done shit.

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        Biden promised no student debt as a way to get into office and then didn’t follow through. Brings it back when its election time but yeah my expectations are the problem here…lol

        • Biden has done some good with student debt, starting a couple years ago. He would have done more but was blocked by Republican lawsuits and the Republican supreme court. Don’t let perfect stand in the way of good.

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            Biden knew it wouldn’t pass thats the point. Hes been in office for long enough to know how these things work. He still promised it!

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              Biden tried to do it and was blocked by Republicans. That is somehow evidence that Republicans should be given more power?

              Maybe Republicans need to stop being such predictable boogey men then if Biden so easily manipulated them to his advantage. What Republicans should have done to mess with Biden was to not block it.

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                  No, he very much did everything he could to push it through. He did not know during the presidential run if Republicans would have enough seats to block it.

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              Heads up:

              A plan isn’t a promise. It’s just a proposal to enact policy.

              Whey one rewrites a narrative in this way, accusing him of having made a “promise” and then breaking it- one is essentially creating a boogeyman that allows them to show him in a light that favors a clearly biased agenda.

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                https://youtu.be/fjgb_RXNuSs?feature=shared

                But don’t worry his plan is going to succeed this time! Lol also why does this only come up during an election. If you guys are too dumb to understand that Biden is just using you people as votes I can’t help you. I see right through the BS specially after 4 years!

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                  Again, there is no record that I am aware of where Biden ever said “I promise… [THING].”

                  You’re creating a straw man by purposefully misinterpreting and misrepresenting the difference between a proposed policy and a promise.

                  And this will remain true regardless of how many you tube videos you post of people calling it a “promise.” This is a poor argument. You really should abandon it.

                  Lastly, be very careful with the “dumb” accusations. There are rules here. You may want to reword that.

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          Has any US politician done anything for student debit? Is Biden the first presidential candidate who didn’t get what they promised done? This is what I mean, your expectations are not based in reality.

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        I like to ask the posters like abo 3 “what is the role of the vice president?” They typically mhave no answer, make shit up, or propose things that are definitely not constitutional for a vice president. Then again, they want a dictator so the constitution has little to do with their reasoning.

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          They’re an envoy of the president, they break ties in the Senate.

          They can’t ride planes together.

          That’s it, on paper.

          Biden managed to do some stuff with his “gaffes” but who knows what was intentional and what was sundowning a full decade before he was elected.

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    The results of this election should look like those rigged Central American dictatorship elections. So ashamed that so many of my fellow Americans can’t get the mental health help they obviously need.

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    Harris needs to douch more than just help US families. She’s either going to rebuild the political system from the ground up or next elections after her will be the last. Dictators are knocking on the door and damn near half of the US is desperately trying to get that door open because they’ve been brainwashed into believing it’s the right thing to do

    The entire winner takes all needs to go out the window, it will destroy the country. Electoral college, out the window, it’s a stupid idea to begin with. Gerrymandering, out. The supreme Court members should have a 4 years max tenure and requires VERY strict rules to avoid corruption

    Concepts like fox news should be prohibited, too. Freedom of speech? Sure, but if you claim to be a news organization you either do your dned best to be honest or you get shut down. Fox news and honesty is like fore and water, it doesn’t go together.

    Just a few ideas to begin with

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      Yep. I will be both frightened and proud if he comes after the subset of enemies I’m in. Again.

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    That’s why tankies don’t want to support kamala.

    It’s painfully clear by now that Gaza is just a trump card for them to whine about. It sucks.

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      That’s why tankies don’t want to support kamala.

      “That” being the promises in the meme? I don’t understand why that would make them not support Kamala.

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        So lemme break things down…

        Trump would turn the Israeli genocide of Palestine up to 11… MFKN TURBOMODE9000 GENOCIDE.

        I’m figuring that must be what the tankies want to happen.

        Or maybe you can figure out how voting for a third party that won’t win (I fucking promise you they won’t) ISNT helping trump out.

        They’re leveraging a genocide to fuck with people’s emotions to manipulate things. It’s gross. Tankies are gross.

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          Always take into account that they could be russian bots or propagandists. There’s the “Social Design Agency” of russia and I think they’re active on all platforms. I’ve seen posts rooting for Jill Stein on X, Mastodon, Reddit and here.

          I’m from Germany and can’t get into my head that anyone true US citizen in the current situation and having the electoral system the US has, would vote the greens there.

          Let me quote from this wikipedia article

          “Duverger presents the example of an election in which 100,000 moderate voters and 80,000 radical voters are to vote for candidates for a single seat or office. If two moderate parties ran candidates and one radical candidate ran (and every voter voted), the radical candidate would tend to win unless one of the moderate candidates gathered fewer than 20,000 votes.”

          Jill Stein and 3rd party voters had probably cost Clinton the election in 2016. 3rd party voter turnout was 6% in 2016 and 2% in 2020:

          https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

          The last straws should be that Jill Stein has investments in the fossil fuel and tobacco industry, met with Putin and was recently endorsed by a leading figure of the KKK, David Duke:

          https://youtu.be/H0GFCPsXusI

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          Trump belongs in jail. Quit using him as a scapegoat. The fact that he’s allowed to run in the first place is a disgrace enough for america.

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            Do they have any other moves?

            All I see is low-brow agitprop that is extremely easy to parse…

            You call them out, there are 2 scenarios;

            If you’re in tankie space they dogpile you because they can’t defend their ideas with reason.

            Or

            Outside of tankie space they target your emotions try to make you feel bad because their arguments are never about thinking or logic, always emotions. It’s because they are weak to their core and all the false strength is a show.

            It would be cute if they weren’t so smelly.

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          peak cringe, stupidity and shamelessness blended together. comments like this perfectly depicts dnc is just as vile as trump. you are as much of a disgrace to humanity and america as trump is.