A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris’ lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein’s candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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      This is a sentence with words, but the arrangement makes no sense. You sure you didn’t generate that from ChatGPT?

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        I think it’s funny that someone with “Locke” in their name would seemingly not distinguish between liberals and leftists.

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          You realise that you’re not using the word liberal as Locke would either right?

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        ? Do you disagree? Isn’t blaming leftists what blue maga is currently priming their voters for if/when they lose?

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        This is a sentence with words, but the arrangement makes no sense. You sure you didn’t generate that from ChatGPT?

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    I won’t believe a single poll until this election is over. There is so much incentive for misinformation out there it is unbearable. Just get out and vote.

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    I’m struggling really hard to see which voter is on the fence between Trump and Stein. Wouldn’t it be more likely to be on the fence between Stein and Harris, or Stein and the couch?

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      Not as many people hate Harris specifically as hated Hillary, but a lot of people (for good and bad reasons) hate the Dems and also Kamala to some extent.

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      Jill Stein is providing spite voters an option to not vote for Donald Trump.

      Hillary took a lot of friendly fire in 2016 from the Bernie Bros who were not too happy.

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          I don’t know the exact math you are referring. but I do know that Obama won and Hillary lost.

          Did Obama win over more right wing voters than Hillary left wing voters?

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      I think Trump draws a lot of broad support from his ‘anti-establishment’ rhetoric so it kinda makes sense for folks to look to other anti-establishment candidates as an alternative to him. There’s a tendency to look down upon Trump voters as only right wingers, conspiracists etc and not really understand that a lot of his support is superficial and based on limited information.

      In a way it’s not so much that Stein or other left candidates are spoilers for the establishment Dems but more the case that figures like Trump are spoilers for progressive alternatives to the establishment.

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      What’s with .ml obsession with stein anyhow? Is it the links to Putin? I don’t get it.

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        This has to be bait. You can’t possibly think people think that way, right? .ml people disagree with NATO-sphere liberals about a lot of things to do with Russia, but that’s not the same as being mindless Russian chauvinists.

        Like, do you really think whatever meetings she had with Putin or whatever it is you blue rags gossip about would be a bigger factor than her opposing the genocide in Gaza, to say nothing of having better climate policies, better immigration policies, and so on?

        “But she won’t win”

        Obviously, but her shaking Putin’s hand won’t change that. His apparent trick of buying a miniscule number of highly-targeted Facebook ads isn’t gonna do much for her, so we need to accept that assumption either way.

        I’m voting for PSL, not Greens, btw.

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        Green party is the most progressive party that has access to 400+ electoral votes. Anyone that wants to participate in the farce would want to vote for them. And Dr Stein pisses off right wingers like no one else, which is a plus.

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    Jill Stein releases a statement: “To be clear, I only want Kamala votes please! Only former Kamala voters!”

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    What about four-way race? Some states still have RFK on the ballot 🥴

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      Why? What’s the excuse this time? You guys are too comfortable supporting genocide perpetrators

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    Insanity. Anyone willing to switch to Stein should be at least as willing to switch to Harris. Someone get this goddamned grifter out of politics

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      People are allowed to stand for election without engaging in your idiotic 2 party system

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      My wife is one. She voted for Trump in '16. She won’t vote for him again there’s no way she’ll vote for Kamala.

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      democracy enjoyers when people vote for candidates that better represent their positions: 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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        Donald Trump is a threat to democracy 😭😭😭 now shut up and vote for the candidate, peasant. You’ll have a primary when you earn it.

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        Democracy enjoyers understand that this version of democracy doesn’t care about third parties 🤷‍♂️ vote for the lesser evil and campaign locally for vote reform

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          I’m not voting for the “lesser evil” when the “lesser evil” commits a genocide. There is no dilemma when we are counting genocides. When do you start realising that both are serving the 1% interests? When does this end - if the dems commit 3 genocides and the republicans 4? If the dems commit 10 and the republicans 11? The red line is long crossed.

          Don’t tell us what to do lmfao.

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        I’m sorry that I live in reality and like to focus on actual outcomes instead the little butterflies I get when I make empty idealistic speeches.

        Getting Trump elected better represents your position? Then by all means - that’s the only thing your vote can actually accomplish in her bucket.

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            Voting third party under the US system doesn’t improve society so, like you, the meme kind of misses the point.

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              Voting third party under the US system in the imperial core* doesn’t improve society

              FTFY. Organizing and direct action gets concessions

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              So don’t vote is your message. As a PSL voter I agree, but i want you to internalize what you’re saying.