Londoner here. The easy way to remember it is, the bridge with the towers, specifically the one next to the tower of london, is called tower bridge.
The one that was the only bridge into the old, walled city of London for centuries, specifically the one right next to London bridge Station, is called London Bridge.
Being used to it, I can only imagine how confusing that must be for people.
The bridge was bought by Robert McCulloch of McCulloch Chainsaws with his vision of a planned community in the Mojave desert.
All of the bricks were numbered, and they were dismantled and reassembled in a specific order. The bridge was built, not over an actual channel, it was built on a peninsula, and the channel was dug out afterwards.
While he was not the highest bidder on the bridge, the British government appreciated how he calculated his bid by accounting for a value of each brick in relation to the number of people living in England at the time.
The man who designed the roads in Disneyland designed the roads in Lake Havasu City. The only straight road is the highway.
The city did not want to pay for the cost of doves at the opening ceremony. They paid for pigeons that were painted white and they became an invasive species in the city.
It’s where I got all my information from and The Hoff makes a surprisingly good frontman for documentaries - if we ever need to replace David Attenborough…
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.
So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.
No, a dove is not ‘a’ pigeon. A dove is in the pigeon family. Your cousin is NOT your brother … because they’re not your brother.
They may have been condescending (quoting a mildly modified copypasta they linked), but the explanation is very clear until the end. Do not insult knowledge with obstinance simply because you were called wrong. That is beyond pathetic and insults knowledge itself.
You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it’s just an ornithologist thing.
Well idk they’re both corvids. I’d refer to a ‘carrion crow’ as a ‘regular crow’ - black all over, feathers onto the top of the beak, flat head, about the size of a box of Kleenex. A jackdaw is pretty distinct as far as it goes, smaller, more like the size of a mango. They’re also mainly dark grey, with a darker head. Smaller beak. Jackdaws have white or pale green eyes, crows have black eyes. Jackdaws go ‘Aah Aah Aah’, crows go ‘caw caw caw’.
At this point they should just rename it.
London bridge can be renamed to “Disappointing Bridge”.
Londoner here. The easy way to remember it is, the bridge with the towers, specifically the one next to the tower of london, is called tower bridge.
The one that was the only bridge into the old, walled city of London for centuries, specifically the one right next to London bridge Station, is called London Bridge.
Being used to it, I can only imagine how confusing that must be for people.
The kicker is that the original London Bridge is not even located in London. It was sold and then transported to the USA.
Not really the original bridge, just the one before the current one.
Lake Havasu City, Arizona! Fun facts:
The bridge was bought by Robert McCulloch of McCulloch Chainsaws with his vision of a planned community in the Mojave desert.
All of the bricks were numbered, and they were dismantled and reassembled in a specific order. The bridge was built, not over an actual channel, it was built on a peninsula, and the channel was dug out afterwards.
While he was not the highest bidder on the bridge, the British government appreciated how he calculated his bid by accounting for a value of each brick in relation to the number of people living in England at the time.
The man who designed the roads in Disneyland designed the roads in Lake Havasu City. The only straight road is the highway.
The city did not want to pay for the cost of doves at the opening ceremony. They paid for pigeons that were painted white and they became an invasive species in the city.
Additional fun fact: it’s haunted by the ghost of Jack the Ripper.
There’s even a documentary.
It’s where I got all my information from and The Hoff makes a surprisingly good frontman for documentaries - if we ever need to replace David Attenborough…
Well Lake Havasu was also the setting for Piranha 3D . Could be a fun crossover.
Piranhas vs Jack the Ripper? I’m in!
All narrated by David Attenborough.
Aren’t doves actually just white pigeons anyway?
Here’s the thing. You said a “dove is a pigeon.”
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.
So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.
It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?
But I’m not wrong, I’m right. A dove is a pigeon.
No, a dove is not ‘a’ pigeon. A dove is in the pigeon family. Your cousin is NOT your brother … because they’re not your brother.
They may have been condescending (quoting a mildly modified copypasta they linked), but the explanation is very clear until the end. Do not insult knowledge with obstinance simply because you were called wrong. That is beyond pathetic and insults knowledge itself.
They’re basically the same thing, though
You magnificent bastard.
I wonder whatever happened to Unidan…
You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it’s just an ornithologist thing.
Click the link in the last paragraph for the original.
It’s a famous copypasta
Oh dear, have I gotten myself… got?
You are far from the only one in this thread who has been gotten. You might be the only one to get that you got gotted though…
old days of reddit and a famous poster called UNIDAN. oh the good ol days. are jackdaws not just crows?
Well idk they’re both corvids. I’d refer to a ‘carrion crow’ as a ‘regular crow’ - black all over, feathers onto the top of the beak, flat head, about the size of a box of Kleenex. A jackdaw is pretty distinct as far as it goes, smaller, more like the size of a mango. They’re also mainly dark grey, with a darker head. Smaller beak. Jackdaws have white or pale green eyes, crows have black eyes. Jackdaws go ‘Aah Aah Aah’, crows go ‘caw caw caw’.
History would at least indicate that it’s an ornithologist thing.