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minus-squareNurgus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-22 months ago“Revolution only ever results in a change of masters” “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”
minus-squarePrunebutt@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·2 months ago “Revolution only ever results in a change of masters” Haiti would like to talk to you.
minus-squareNurgus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·2 months agoSlavery finished, replaced with forced labour and serfdom? That Haiti?
minus-squarePrunebutt@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·2 months agoI’m not sure why you’re arguing in favour of literal slavery, but ok. There are other examples: Bavaria in 1919 Spain with the CNT/FAI in the 1930s The 1905 revolution in Russia, along with the 1917 revolution
minus-squareNurgus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·2 months agoI’m not arguing for slavery, you’re misunderstanding the quote. I didn’t say the change of masters was inherently no better than the previous masters. Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in. The fact that Haitians were eventually much better off than as slaves doesn’t change that.
“Revolution only ever results in a change of masters”
“One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”
Haiti would like to talk to you.
Slavery finished, replaced with forced labour and serfdom? That Haiti?
I’m not sure why you’re arguing in favour of literal slavery, but ok. There are other examples:
I’m not arguing for slavery, you’re misunderstanding the quote. I didn’t say the change of masters was inherently no better than the previous masters.
Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in.
The fact that Haitians were eventually much better off than as slaves doesn’t change that.