I swear, there’s a delta wave 2HZ,3HZ one thats basically aural Valium 💉 As long as its a good speaker
Has anyone tried these in combination with bone conduction headphones?
Similarly, I have found it quite sensual to put the speaker on the back of my neck/spine
Just looking on youtube, you can find binaural beats for pretty much anything: inflammation cure, pain relief, changing your eye colour, finding love and becoming rich. All the ones I’ve looked at feature comments from people claiming they’ve helped them.
They can’t possibly do all of the above and I don’t think there a studies proving anything but a placebo effect.
And, without truly believing in them, they never had any effect on me. I’ve tried them in my youth.
I wouldn’t say I “believed” but I tried it with an open mind expecting SOMETHING to happen. I borrowed some expensive headphones from the audio production department at school, got relaxed in my bed with a couple candles going, plugged into my nice DAC and…all I got was bored. I went through like 10 different tracks. Quite the disappointing experience.
What might be more useful would be to put it on in the background while you’re falling asleep if you’re in a situation where you can have noise while you’re going to sleep
They’re good background music while studying, but not for any magical reason. Some just sound nice
My opinion is they are placebo but placebo actually can have effects because you believe they have effects.
I think about it, if you’ve been listening to binaural beats in order to find love don’t you think that you’re going to be more likely to find love and therefore you’re going to be looking for opportunities to validate your beliefs?
If you are listening to binaural beats to lose weight don’t you think that there’s a chance that you will intentionally and willfully act in ways that will increase the likelihood that you will lose weight?
And the best part about placebo is even if you know it’s a placebo effect it does not prevent it from actually working because humans are cool and weird and funny like that.
I think you’re totally on point! I think that’s similar with other religious or spiritual practices, like specific meditations, spells, or rituals - you’re priming yourself to be more aware of opportunities to achieve that goal
I feel like as a staunch atheist that does his own research to be missing out on alot of placebo effects
Studies are currently inconclusive on the efficacy of Binaural Beats. According to this meta analysis, five corroborate BB, and eight do not.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0286023
So it’s still woo until studies consistently fail to disprove that BB does anything.
Anecdotally, I believe they can induce relaxation or stimulation via entrainment. Like if you listen to something low and soft, I think that relaxes you and something high-pitched and loud stimulates
Right, but that’s exactly it. It’s still only just anecdotes and subjective claims. It might be that it’s indeed a valid form of treatment, but the evidence we have doesn’t seem to point to that as a rational conclusion.
Whatever you personally experience might in fact be a placebo effect or confirmation bias.
What speakers do you have that actually produce sound waves that low? Most subwoofers only go down to 20hz since thats about the lowest frequencies humans can hear. Maybe 15hz for a surround sound system so that sound effects can shake the floor when you’re watching a movie or something. But 2hz is crazy.
I’ve tried listening to them but never really experienced much, but then again I didn’t know what they were supposed to do so maybe the placebo didn’t have a chance to work.
I think the trick is that they use the differential in two higher pitched waves and your brain creates the lower pitch rather than the speaker.
Like it oscillates both 400HZ and 402HZ and your brain creates that 2HZ delta or something
Ah okay, that makes more sense. Thanks for explaining.
I’ve played in orchestras for most of my life, so I’m sure I’ve been inadvertently exposed to some binaural beats when the people around me can’t play in tune. I can’t say it made me feel particularly good, but it certainly had an effect on me in hindsight.
If you have iphone i can recommene a sample app to try out and if you want share your input about using
interesting, give me some of the good ones.
I want to try it out, I don’t even know what it is really.
I’ve used this giorgio regni app on Android for years with various random earbuds.
The only option on its menu that reliably does anything for me is called “morphine pain killer”, but it was a game changer for me for incapacitating sea sickness (believe me I had tried so many things I don’t think I had any placebo potential left). On land, I’ve found it effective for post surgery pain, nerve pain, and even the odd depressive crying jag. I guess at this point I’m a believer so I’d be curious to know what effect it has on a “fresh” patient. I don’t think I’ve tried it just for kicks, though, so not sure what you’ll notice if you’re already feeling ok.
The f-Droid link if you want it to be a bit more privacy friendly.
Do you have iPhone?
I find them fascinating, but have never found they have such a dramatic effect. Though I tried the Gateway Experience tapes for awhile and definitely slept better when I used them, despite a decided lack of astral travel or whatever.
Maybe a good speaker helps. I’ve tried them before and they’re good background noise for flights, but that’s about all I’ve gotten out of them.
