Agreed but what’s with the weird amount of politics related memes on lemmy meme communities?I wanna laugh not continue glooming about the state of the world
It’s probably state and political organizations trying to influence the election by implicitly trashing the democrats, there are farms of memers from conservative countries and organizations trying to imply that the democrats are the authoritarian party to rattle the cages of voters.
it happened in 2016 and 2020, and every American intelligence agency has been publicly cautioning voters for years that electoral manipulation through indirect methods like memes and social media posts are definitely being perpetrated by unfriendly countries and is only increasing.
It’s a pretty interesting story that not many people talk about, but a lot of political memes on the internet are supplied by foreign state actors willfully trying to influence American elections, and in the case of 2016, successfully affected the outcome of the American election for the conservatives according to intelligence agencies.
in 2016 and 2020, meme farms were established in Russia, China and Iran specifically to covertently attack the democratic party so that The conservatives in the US would seem more rational, because for an actors with intense to harm the US want the conservatives to gain power again.
that is happening again.
Even if OP here isn’t one of the Russian meme farmers themselves, their misunderstanding of the political conflict is undoubtedly influenced by the intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors.
It’s a dead-end, lazy barely-a-thought meme and the fashionably cynical futility of American policy analysis should be confronted.
I do not deny the very rearl, intense and dangerous activity of Russian and Chinese troll farms for Western democracies.
But you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy: all US administrations after Clinton have had a one-sided approach of the conflict in Israel/Palestine. It is more visible now the IDF slaughters tens of thousands of civilians with US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome. One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.
I’ve never posted a political meme, I think I’ve only ever posted one meme.
“Are you the paid propagandist? No way somebody normal speaks like that.”
The American government and their intelligence agencies speak like that after discovering state-sponsored meme farms in hostile countries focused on disrupting the United States elections in favor of US conservatives.
I’m gonna agree with varik here. I’ve noticed a deliberate contingent of “pro-Palestinian” who are clearly siphoning votes from Harris. They seem to be targeting naive leftists and Midwest Muslims, and they always intentionally obfuscate just how much more brutal and awful Trump would be.
Bro, u don’t need foreign authors to do that. The very same person that did and does that there, teach Bolsonaro and his MFs to do the same in Brazil. USA problem is not foreign authors, but inside job, even when them (Trump and his followers, backed by Steve Bannon and tons of money from people like Musk) hire external actors to do so.
One of the biggest problems of USA lies in the fact that united stadians (sorry, I refuse to call them Americans and prefer to create a name) always think that their country is being attacked, harassed and assaulted by evil external actors that wants the end of USA when these actors are, mainly, internal. And most of the externals, also hired by internal actors.
But, I admit that it is being nice to see the end of USA as an empire (even though they will die shooting and killing millions, like we are seeing in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Siria, Libia and many others)
It is not by and for communists. Just because the main dev of a project adheres to a certain ideology it doesn’t mean everyone adheres to that ideology. In fact the communist section of lemmy is pretty much defederated from the rest
It doesn’t matter what it was created for, it matters what it is now. You can’t say that marxists are even close to being the majority of users.
A huge portion of the community also blocks the two tankie instances on their own account, it’s just that world did it because it’s one of the bigger instances and wanted to keep a good image of the platform
By default the open source/decentralized social media movement was galvanized by idealistic and political groups who were unsatisfied with corporate social media — mainly being the libertarian-flavored, pro-free speech free software types that flourished in the early software industry, the right wing activists that proliferated in the mid 00s/early 2010s, and left-wing factions of many types fighting capitalism.
Lemmy in particular was started by developers in the communist space, and has since attracted other segments of the left and center to seed its culture.
Many segments of popular communities here are liberal or even centrist now, but the background, core user base of Lemmy retains at least a socially progressive, anti-or-critical-capitalist lens, if not further left.
I just think it’s a matter of the crowd Lemmy has attracted. The circumstances of Lemmy’s creation and growth aren’t exactly conducive to being full of fun loving people.
Agreed but what’s with the weird amount of politics related memes on lemmy meme communities?I wanna laugh not continue glooming about the state of the world
It’s probably state and political organizations trying to influence the election by implicitly trashing the democrats, there are farms of memers from conservative countries and organizations trying to imply that the democrats are the authoritarian party to rattle the cages of voters.
it happened in 2016 and 2020, and every American intelligence agency has been publicly cautioning voters for years that electoral manipulation through indirect methods like memes and social media posts are definitely being perpetrated by unfriendly countries and is only increasing.
https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/
It’s a pretty interesting story that not many people talk about, but a lot of political memes on the internet are supplied by foreign state actors willfully trying to influence American elections, and in the case of 2016, successfully affected the outcome of the American election for the conservatives according to intelligence agencies.
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you’re not “calling them out”, you’re upvoting a lazy, misguided meme without any context purely to get attention.
“You guys are spamming the whole internet with your election bullcrap”
proof?
Just kidding, I know you don’t have any.
I have zero political memes in my entire history.
“You guys are a rogue country and I hope new york gets bombed someday.”
your cowardly nature right here is proof of your insincerity and misunderstanding of how war works.
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Don’t see the lunk between this meme and the US election. I bet this is a widely shared understanding of the situation outside the US.
link:
in 2016 and 2020, meme farms were established in Russia, China and Iran specifically to covertently attack the democratic party so that The conservatives in the US would seem more rational, because for an actors with intense to harm the US want the conservatives to gain power again.
that is happening again.
Even if OP here isn’t one of the Russian meme farmers themselves, their misunderstanding of the political conflict is undoubtedly influenced by the intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors.
It’s a dead-end, lazy barely-a-thought meme and the fashionably cynical futility of American policy analysis should be confronted.
I do not deny the very rearl, intense and dangerous activity of Russian and Chinese troll farms for Western democracies. But you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy: all US administrations after Clinton have had a one-sided approach of the conflict in Israel/Palestine. It is more visible now the IDF slaughters tens of thousands of civilians with US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome. One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.
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I’ve never posted a political meme, I think I’ve only ever posted one meme.
“Are you the paid propagandist? No way somebody normal speaks like that.”
The American government and their intelligence agencies speak like that after discovering state-sponsored meme farms in hostile countries focused on disrupting the United States elections in favor of US conservatives.
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/587921536/how-a-russian-troll-factory-waged-an-aggressive-campaign-to-disrupt-the-u-s-elec
since you already wrecked yourself, you might as well check yourself.
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yep, definitely your alt.
you’re wrong about all of that.
enjoy your new ban.
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I don’t have that kind of time.
and I’m glad you’re poor? I guess?
is that what you wanted?
as far as I understand, The meme farming is kind of a poverty wage thing, it’s just to keep you all from rising up against Putin.
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I’m gonna agree with varik here. I’ve noticed a deliberate contingent of “pro-Palestinian” who are clearly siphoning votes from Harris. They seem to be targeting naive leftists and Midwest Muslims, and they always intentionally obfuscate just how much more brutal and awful Trump would be.
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Trump woudl be worse.
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This is not trashing democrats, and republicans would be worse. This is trashing all the ignorant peopel who don’t understand the difference.
“all the ignorant peopel”
so glad you’re on the job.
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you only feel like an idiot because you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t beat yourself up about it.
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yea, i get it, enjoy your pennies.
“You are surely innocent”
well yeah, I don’t even pay American taxes.
“You are not”
Yes I am, we just went over that.
“I wish you get drafted and sent to the middle east to get butchered like so many did.”
what are you- oh, butchered like the hundreds of thousands of Russian casualties so far.
i get it.
that would be terrible!
enjoy the 17 cents or whatever you’re making today.
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I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
are you the alt account of the guy that just got banned?
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That’s so strange, you misspell words exactly the same and your account was created at the same time his was banned.
and yes.
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geez, you actually are one of the farmers aren’t you?
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/587921536/how-a-russian-troll-factory-waged-an-aggressive-campaign-to-disrupt-the-u-s-elec
nice to meet you, glad you failed last election cycle. excited to see you fail and waste all that money again this election cycle.
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“Idiot McCarthist lmao”
haha, dude, people are only calling you an idiot because you are literally posting objectively false information.
consider what you’re saying before you write comments so demonstrably false or proven incorrect so easily.
you’ll stop sounding dumb very quickly the less you write.
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are you asking me who McCarthy is?
what are you confused about, alt 2?
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Fun war profiteering you can yank your crank too.
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“…doesn’t like their narrative challenged.”
Repeating the same thing everybody else agrees with is not “challenging”.
you mean you find critical reasoning challenging.
you having certain personal challenges is not the same thing as challenging an idea.
you simply find ideas challenging.
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Bro, u don’t need foreign authors to do that. The very same person that did and does that there, teach Bolsonaro and his MFs to do the same in Brazil. USA problem is not foreign authors, but inside job, even when them (Trump and his followers, backed by Steve Bannon and tons of money from people like Musk) hire external actors to do so.
One of the biggest problems of USA lies in the fact that united stadians (sorry, I refuse to call them Americans and prefer to create a name) always think that their country is being attacked, harassed and assaulted by evil external actors that wants the end of USA when these actors are, mainly, internal. And most of the externals, also hired by internal actors.
But, I admit that it is being nice to see the end of USA as an empire (even though they will die shooting and killing millions, like we are seeing in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Siria, Libia and many others)
I am sorry. I thoght this was too low effort to put in a politics community.
I don’t really browse political communities but I thought they would have a lower barrier of effort than meme communities.Nvm I just remembered I’m on shitpost. Fair enough ig
Lemmy is a decentralized platform created by and for communists. It’s political by default.
It is not by and for communists. Just because the main dev of a project adheres to a certain ideology it doesn’t mean everyone adheres to that ideology. In fact the communist section of lemmy is pretty much defederated from the rest
It was literally the purpose it was created but go off I guess, what’s a little revisionism.
And by “the rest” you mean .world “preemptively defederating as a last resort”
It doesn’t matter what it was created for, it matters what it is now. You can’t say that marxists are even close to being the majority of users.
A huge portion of the community also blocks the two tankie instances on their own account, it’s just that world did it because it’s one of the bigger instances and wanted to keep a good image of the platform
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By default the open source/decentralized social media movement was galvanized by idealistic and political groups who were unsatisfied with corporate social media — mainly being the libertarian-flavored, pro-free speech free software types that flourished in the early software industry, the right wing activists that proliferated in the mid 00s/early 2010s, and left-wing factions of many types fighting capitalism.
Lemmy in particular was started by developers in the communist space, and has since attracted other segments of the left and center to seed its culture.
Many segments of popular communities here are liberal or even centrist now, but the background, core user base of Lemmy retains at least a socially progressive, anti-or-critical-capitalist lens, if not further left.
Everything is political. You just have an easier time noticing politics on Lemmy because it’s more honest here.
Lol
Lmao even
I just think it’s a matter of the crowd Lemmy has attracted. The circumstances of Lemmy’s creation and growth aren’t exactly conducive to being full of fun loving people.
The state of the world and the koolaid man both like to recklessly crash through my walls and be like “OH no”