I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.
I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.
I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.
Yes.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
Blue sky is not on the fediverse. They’ve decided to come up with their own federating system from the ground up, which I think kind of squandered what could have been a pivotal opportunity to help facilitate a mass exodus from Twitter, contributing to fragmentation and confusion.
But anyway. I think they intend to have their own version of federating soon but I don’t think it’s up and running yet.
They are not really allowing federation.
Details here: https://lemmy.ml/post/20064488
Thank you for that read. Seems to completely miss the point of federation. The core motivations related to improving choices about how user names and federation structure works, and forcing their domain to be the mandatory user facing side of the whole network could not possibly miss the point more except by being actually centralized. Mandatory firehose relays of the entire networds data that can’t be federated or defederated that could be prohibitively costly to host?
And the complexities under the hood that attempt to square this circle are infinitely more confusing than explaining Mastodon instances.
I wish there were more people in the fediverse, but not necessarily heaps more on Lemmy. I don’t want Reddit numbers on Lemmy. But I wish there were more platforms and more people engaging with them, and no, if the answer is shit like Threads then I don’t want any of it.
The “threadiverse” (i.e. lemmy-compatible communities), yeah. There are still many topics that I would find interesting to discuss, but that nobody talks about here; to the extent that there are communities for them, they get very little activity.
The microblogging fediverse (mastodon-compatible), I think, is popular enough by now, I have no real desire to see even more activity there, can hardly keep up with what I’m currently following there and currently tend to unfollow more accounts than I start following.
There are still many topics that I would find interesting to discuss, but that nobody talks about here;
Which ones are those?
For example on Reddit there is an active subreddit for learning my first language (German), where learners post questions about it and I frequently answer them.
There is such a community here too, and I am subscribed to it, but hardly anyone ever posts to it, so I have nothing to respond to.
i looked through mastodon and it seemed like everyone was just talking at each other instead if discussions. its worse than linkedin.
Mastodon is mainly a way to get updates from news sites, blogs, etc.
I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.
The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.
Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?
If you think this question is being asked too much, go and sit at AskReddit sometime. Count the many, many times you will see questions like ‘Why are you single?’ or "What would you do if someone gave you a million dollars?’ or similarly worded questions. They are posted by the hour, almost nonstop.
You get a question like mine like once in a few weeks or a month maybe. But you hadn’t seen anything until you check out AskReddit.
You are … making my point.
Indeed
You lot. (Orbital)
Agreed! Seriously people this is not reddit. It does not have a bajillion users. Stop asking for it to have a billion users! This question has been asked So. Many. Times. I’m content with the amount of users here, of people want to invite more than invite more, but what is this post? “I have noticed that there are fewer users”. Correct! Next question.
The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!
As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.
At this point I’ve blocked so many .world communities that I don’t see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I’ve blocked fewer .ml communities overall.
Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.
this is a very elitist approach camarad
It’s not really elitist, Lemmy was founded as an alternative to Reddit, but Lemmy.world is a repitition of it, not to mention the anti-Marxist pro-zionist moderators. It’s understandable that people leaving Reddit don’t want the same thing as Reddit.
Hum I doubt even the majority of mod are “anti marxist” or “pro zionist”… may be you’re looking at the more active communities, with few mod over them… But for what I read I never had that impression
Here are a few examples of the mods denouncing Socialism and Marxism, and they banned me from political memes for going against the liberal narrative for “misinformation and posturing” despite leaving up the Zionist lie that the Palestinian genocide is a 1000 year conflict. This is also when one of the moderators claimed they weren’t censoring anyone and were incredibly fair on a comment chain calling out their censorship, and refused to elaborate. They would not even tell me how I could edit my comments to comply with their rules.
They defederated from Hexbear “as a last resort-” before ever federating with Hexbear.
In the Lemmygrad defederation thread, there’s unsupported claims of hate speech and calls to violence, which we have to fill in the blanks - the mods are anti-Marxist and anti-revolution, so any Marxist instance is going to fail that test.
The Hexbear defederation thread is somehow worse when they list why instead of leaving it to the imagination. Read some of the top comments, it’s clear that it was anti-Socialist in motive. Real spooky scary zingers listed as evidence in the post like “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” This statement is 100% obvious to anyone not stanning the US Empire.
Another example listed is “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” Yet again, they are defederated for being Marxists, and therefore being revolutionary. This is just because they are authentically Marxist, not because posters were mean.
The mods of Lemmy.world are Liberals. Not just any liberals, but “true believers.” Marxism is dangerous to them and so they shut it out, they spelled it out plainly.
It is not elitist to reject unfunny garbage from Reddit brains
So you think if something is bad enough it is ok to discriminate again. Meaning you place the bar of disparaging some contend at around average value , so not at high elite value.
That can hold. It still depend on your value judgement of the content in question. Someone could think that lemmy.ml contend is “unfunny garbage”.
The point of a site like this one, is that not one person is the decider. Not you or me. Users vote what is or is not funny, so that the “avergagely” funny systematically go on top. The more people they are, the more the average will mirror the real world population… I think considering the average population to not be “worthy” is pretty elitist. There are a lot of problem in such a site: Hive mind, trolling, mass vote, bot usage… But discriminating against normal human user (even the worse one) doesn’t seems to me like a solution
Uh… I am the decider of what I identify as tired unfunny memes. Nothing wrong with that!
I don’t know. I do understand the preference of quality over quantity, but there is a limit. There’s a difference between reddit anime discussion, where each episode discussion has hundreds of diverse opinions - most being shitty - sure, but while the voting system is flawed, the interesting comments do tend to rise. and between lemmy’s anime discussions, where an episode has…let me check: between 0 to two comments: https://lemmy.world/c/anime or https://ani.social/c/anime. That is really sad. Not to mention that reddit has so much niche subreddits
Be the change you seek! Most anime communities will let you post episode discussions, and if your instance is active enough you’ll draw viewers sorting by new.
Having enough users for a community is important, I agree! I think that with the current size of Lemmy userbases, communities are often more like topic flags than self-sustaining niches.
Though to pick on Reddit, every time mods crack down on bots their subreddits decrease in posts and comments around tenfold. A lot of the engagement is fake. Mostly to boost numbers for financial reasons but they can also serve as a means of controlling behaviors and narratives.
I literally do not care about getting more members. It is not on my radar at all as a goal or desirable thing or objective.
Absolutely. There’s just fuck all to do here. I used reddit for fan communities a lot, and most of them stayed behind. (Unless you’re a trekkie I guess. Then you’re set.)
Nearly every niche community I’ve joined has essentially died due to not having the critical mass of users to support that community. Hell, even look at the large states like California or Texas: they’re communities with only a few hundred active users and maybe a couple thousand joined. Feels like the lemmy is mostly us politics, star trek, Germans, and memes.
Which niches were they?
Some like [email protected] and [email protected] are quite active
[email protected] has several threads with different active communities on different topics
You know a platform is big when like nearly all states of a country have their own subreddit and their own userbase. It’s like, that’s impact there.
It’s the same here, I check the front page and what do I see? Politics, politics, politics, a couple memes and maybe a news report that isn’t politics.
The forum I used to spend a lot of time on in my youth was incredibly active - comments all night every couple minutes. The regional areas where practically dead. What we need are thriving core communities not critical mass. I like not being bombarded by thoughtless and judgmental comments
I’d guess that 50-100 active users could make any community feel vibrant. I’ve noticed when I post in a smaller community it can get solid responses (fast replies from a dozen or so users), but they die out after a day or two and people need to be posting all the time to keep it up.
If you don’t like politics, block those communities
Otherwise
I mean, you are on a site built and maintained by Communists along Communist principles, there are going to be Communists.
Reddit already exists for liberals.
I didn’t say anything about communists. I said I missed being able to interact with people who shared my hobbies. I just want to
grilltalk about cartoons and video games.Also, I was sold on Lemmy because they told me it was an user owned alternative to reddit, which was going tits up at the time. “It’s a communist website.” Is not what they told me to get me over here.
I didn’t say anything about communists
What did you mean by the word “tankie?” Liberals?
Either way, it’s about finding a good instance and sticking with it, not just going with the largest and most boring instance.
0·1 month agoTrekkie, star trek. Not tankie.
Oof, misread that
[email protected] has several threads with different active communities on different topics
I kinda like the lack of content. I don’t feel like I’m missing anything here. Mastodon is too busy.
Same, I come back every few days and don’t feel like I’ve missed some big meme or event. Reddit you had to log on literally everyday or you could miss some joke and now it’s memed all over every sub and you have no clue what’s going on.
No.
People are the worst.
Yes and no.
Yes, I wish the fediverse would become more adopted by the general public because it will continues to improve.
No, because people are stupid assholes
I’ve been using this account for over a year since the Rexodus. Haven’t had this disinterest problem. Do I wish there were more users, sure, but it takes time. Work on making this place great and they will continue to move here. Create, mod, or just post to a niche community.
It just takes time. More passionate posters will come. Reddit is mostly ai-generated at this point.
I wish more technically focused communities had a real home here. I’ll google something, and see that the project I’m working on has a dedicated subreddit where someone asked my question. Wish I could see lemmy in my search results.
Even when I left reddit a year ago, most accounts on the front page were reposts bots. If you spent more than a year or two on reddit, you realize everything on the front page is recycled content.
There is no guarantee that there will be more posters. This place might very well disappear in a few years.
Doubtful. Individual instances, yes, but lemmy overall? No.
Yes there needs to be more people. There’s barely any active discussion here. If you don’t want to shit on Israel, there’s just shit posts and Linux. We need more people to get active sports discussion, movies, TV, or anything else.
movies
TV
sport
[email protected] (not sure what you like)
Did you have a look at [email protected] and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
I’d love a more active sports area. I comment semi regularly in a few. There is small engagement, but would love even 10-15% more.
I moved to lemmy hoping it would be like classic Reddit, which it is to some extent. Unfortunately, my experience has been more like browsing Imgur – just endless memes and shitposts.
I tried blocking all the meme-focused communities I could find, but now my feed feels like a ghost town.
Did you have a look at [email protected] and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
What are your interests?
Idk man, in actually seen here and not drowned out
Little a comment I make that doesn’t have any interactions, I like that
