Keir Starmer's 'smash gangs' pledge 'in tatters' after Channel crossings rise
www.express.co.uk
Between October 1 and 5, 1,368 people made it here over the Channel. On October 5, the UK recorded the highest number of migrant arrivals in a single day this year - 973.
  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    182·
    2 months ago

    I’m probably biased, being an American, but those numbers don’t seem significant for a country with 56 million people.

    13,000 migrants in 3 months?

    So the overall population increased 0.0002321429?

    • Ginja@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      739·
      2 months ago

      13,000 on top of the 750,000 “irregular migrants” already in the UK. Double Frances 300,000, and making the UK have the largest “irregular migrant” population in Europe.

      As for why that’s a problem? Because it takes away resources from the people who live here. They’re actively stealing our futures, as we pay for their accommodation, food, family planning, childcare, etc. I understand you don’t have the same social care that we do, but it costs a lot of money to house these people while we work our arses off and can’t even pay rent.

      Imagine if you could just hop on a boat to Mexico, and the Mexican government would give you a free home and food for life. You didn’t even have to learn Spanish, you could just sit in your American community and never interact with anyone while getting everything. Would you understand why Mexicans would be angry at you?

      • RedditWanderer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        222·
        2 months ago

        Have you actually ran the math? Because they are not “taking your resources” and are held at a much higher standard than UK citizens in terms of being “productive”. Even illegal immigrants aren’t as harmful to the economy as you might think.

        The reason your rent is going up isn’t because of immigration lol. The bottom isn’t pulling us down, the top is isolating us. Youre angry at the wrong people and haven’t ran the actual math of where your costs are coming from. It could be argued more educated people would be working their ass off for less money if there were less immigrants in your country. Also you might be conflating immigrants with refugees.

        Alao youre going to have to back the claim of free housing and free food for life. Your analogy to mexico is ridiculous, the world doesn’t work like that, nor does the UK. It’s the same dumb argument that if we give ppl welfare, they won’t do anything of themselves, which nobody has the time to debate here for the millionth time.

        • Ginja@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          324·
          2 months ago

          I have no problem with people from other countries.

          I have a problem with people coming here and using our tax money to fund their easy lives.

          • RedditWanderer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            2 months ago

            Again, youre going to need to back that up. “Funding easy lives” is absolutely not the life of an immigrant. You assume because they are migrating, they are poor, unproductive and going to cost you. That’s called being xenophobic.

            Try looking into how much of your tax dollars go to fund companies to make billionaires that won’t give anything back. Companies during covid ran away and hid their billions, then threatened the government with mass unemployment unless they paid the bill. You footed the bill for thousands of companies that are now refusing to pay proper wages after making record (subsidized) profits. Wages not going up in several decades has nothing to do with immigration.

            10 years ago or so there were no billionaires over 100 billion. Now there are 18 lol. Leave the immigrants alone and start being angry at the right people. You might also want to look at the positive impacts of immigration, the investment in these people is beneficial for the country as most become proper tax payers. That’s why counties do it. Immigration has nothing to do with being nice. Not to mention international students are a big funder of your education system.

            Btw, the difference between a million and a billion is easier to see when looking in seconds. A million seconds is about 11 days, 1 billion seconds is about 32 years. The hundreds of millions spent on immigration is nothing compared to the billions in subsidies the rich get just for being rich.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        12·
        2 months ago

        Still, to me, 750,000 on a population of 56 million doesn’t seem like a bunch (1.34%), but then we have people complaining here about 11 million on a population of 330 million (3.33%).

  • Ginja@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    554·
    2 months ago

    Spending billions of pounds to prop migrants up for life, yet our elderly starve. This is unfair to the hardworking people who lived there their whole life.

      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
        93·
        2 months ago

        I know your asking a figurative question not a literal one. But the fact that they are using the Express as a new source tells you all you need to know about their position on the political spectrum.

        Also, if the Express is the source of news then that raises some critical thinking concerns.

    • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
      191·
      2 months ago

      Lmfao golden considering the amount of imports and exploitation of 3rd world nations as you drain their resources dry and exploit their cheap labor. Have some humility, buddy.

    • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      Spending billions of pounds to prop migrants up for life, yet our elderly starve

      Those aren’t mutually exclusive, you cockwomble.

      Do you know what old people need? The NHS, quite often.

      Guess who works for them?

      Percentages for nurses are much higher – nearly 27 per cent of NHS nurses are from outside the UK

      Hopefully you’re still a teen meaning you can grow out of this bullshit.