I’ve left Firefox twice now and come back. It’s still far less shitty than the other main options.
This is actually perfect in that enshittification is exactly like death: it comes for everyone or in the context of technology, everything.
There is no popular product or service that doesn’t eventually get the enshittification treatment to squeeze more blood from the stone.
Not quite, I don’t think. Enshittification is driven by profit motive, which means if there’s no money at all involved, then there’s no motive.
I guess you chose your words carefully though because the terms ‘product’ and ‘service’ pretty much imply that money is involved somewhere there.
In terms of foss projects it’s ego of maintainer like in cdda case or/and competent maintainer stepped down like linus plans to
Yeah, I moved to librewolf
i think that the first sign of enshitification is its leaders and it seems like it’s already here.
i’m wondering what browser to switch to next.
Librewolf is firefox based but still good for now. But long term we need either another engine or a major fork of firefox not just a cleaned up copy.
Ladybird! Though it’s not slated to be fully ready till 2026
Doesn’t it has some political issues?
If I recall correctly, they rejected a patch to make their documentation inclusive, rather than assuming that developers were all male, calling it a political crusade. It’s not so much a political problem as a sexism issue.
Pretty ironic, considering the project’s name (Ladybird).
Zen browser has been an interesting experience. Librewolf & Mullvad have been great 🤠
I’ve also been trying out zen. While I really enjoy the sleek Ui and some addons it’s kind of slower than „vanilla Firefox“ which it depends on if I’m not wrong. I’ve tried on multiple machines though mainly on my work laptop which is quite beefy. I’m still using zen though so take what you want from that.
librewolf is my most likely bet; i want to stay away from anything chromium based.
ladybird might become a thing someday. And if all else fails we can still use curl or emacs.
Lynx
Dammit you beat me to it
lemmyverse
Noooooo.
I like my Extensions.
The internet isn’t worth having without Ublock, Ghostery, Scriptmonkey, etc.
i like the cut of this jib. But Firefox has for years been literally behind Microsoft on sidebar vertical tab browsing. Wasn’t it Firefox to make browser tabs mainstream?
Check out Sidebery, it’s a vertical tab extension.
i’ve been using tree style tab for many years now. works great. I’m just confused why it isn’t native to firefox. kind of like why hasn’t VLC incorporated a dark mode with the classic interface? AH! I love open source software, not kidding.
they’re still working on it though, right ?
ADGUARD FOR DESKTOP! NEXT DNS! USERSCRIPTS CAN BE LOADED INTO ADGUARD!
Sorry…I have Tourette’s
You don’t have a problem. You have a passion.
Online advertising is malware!
Hey! Why not add an AI assistant that summarizes each page I visit! It would be awesome 😎. But only if the computation is done off-site. I don’t want to bother my computer cpu too much…this page depicts 7 consenting adults engaging in what would otherwise be described as an Australian cum slut gangbang clusterfuck with a 3 finger twist and large bottle of rum up the asshole…
Joe! Joe! Come here quick! Remember the dude from yesterday? Yeah, cum slut cluster fuck? Exactly! Look he’s asking for it again! I think he likes it. Why don’t we send his information to the appropriate authorities?
…ring ring! Yes? Is this the guy who really likes Australia cluster fuck videos? Ehhh, why would you ask such a thing?..well I am the authority on this topic! I wrote the book, see?..and another page …and another page… Yeah, it’s mostly photos of me and my 6 male friends. Oh! Ah!.. Can I help you? Well I didn’t bring my 6 friends with me but do you have sex guy friends? Oh I said sex, didn’t I. Yeah I do have sex friends! Wait a minute, did Mozilla Firefox sent you after they shared my most intimate searches thru the NSA AI servers? Gosh darn it! Well it doesn’t matter, what’s done is done. I guess I’ll just take my pants off, go ahead and get more comfortable too. You want anything to eat while we wait here for my six friends? One of them is really fat, is that okay? I mean he’s really, like you know, morbidly obese sort of fat. I hope you are okay with his girth.
And Soo the user had a great time thanks to Mozilla Firefox. The end! She was never found until the x-ray, when her body was found biologically fused and bonded to the user’s friend’s body along with two other doctors from previous visits. It was pretty bad. It was big news in Australia 🦘.
I gotta go sleep 💤😴💤💤.
Look at these numbers and tell me with a straight face that chrome is dead.
why did you think anyone would say would chrome is dead… oh youre a troll
no, I’m an idiot with bad eyesight and enough experience to expect that most people are even dumber than I am.
bad eyesight? LOL
Have you re-read your earlier message yet? People in glass houses…
Don’t think it’s talking about “death” just enshitification
Side note: gotdamn firefox is less than 3.0% According to the same website, Linux is at 4.5% marketshare. It’s rarer to use firefox than linux (I’m on iceweasel btw)
Read the meme better
thanks, the however-many comments before you that said the same thing didn’t get through to me, but yours totally did!
It’s not dead. It’s just the default option for boomers.
It’s like Internet Explorer or Netscape. It exists so you csn download something better.
I don’t think you fully understand just how much the ‘default’ is. Between edge and chrome it’s the default for everything.
Introducing children to the Internet? Chrome. Old folks? Chrome. businesses? Chrome (sometimes edge). Personal use for 90% of people? chrome.
(also edge is used to install something better which again, for 90% of people, is chrome.)
Meme says it’s shitty, not dead
that actually makes more sense, my bad
can’t wait for lady bird browser
you can already build it, fairly featured
can’t wait for the servo browser engine
Until people are donating enough money to make maintaining an open source browser doable, this will continue to happen.
The chair-person makes 2.5 million a year…
It think the problem might be they have too much money…
The thing is that we need a better donation system, for people to trust it.
An auditable system, and goal oriented.
I’m tired of donating to something and seeing that instead of the good project I wanted my money went to some crazy side project or to some over the top salaries for high corporate.
We need some kind of trustable platform that audits where donation money goes, and enforces binding of the donated money for the purpose it was donated for.
I got really burned with the whole wikiMedia thing. And since them I’m very cautious to who I donate to.
Lynx is still here for you.
Lynx bros and gals, unite! ✊️
You are not alone… there is me and this dude above
Did you post this from Lynx?
It does not support JS, which as I understand, locks me out of lemmy. I may be wrong.
I’m really holding out for Ladybird.
Ben garrison comic without any reference to cum?
You just made the reference meta.
Ok I’m probably just a simpleton who doesn’t get it…but is this comic really suggesting that HTML5 I’d a negative thing, and worse, is the drumbeat of a tyrannical web?
I mean really…HTML5 is one of the best things to happen to the Web and the W3C is imo the essential glue holding things together.
Browser inconsistencies are so few and far between now it makes building an inclusive Web much easier, you can almost do it by accident.
Ben Garrison is a right-wing idiot. He doesn’t know jack about much of anything.
Wuh oh, I’m OOTL here, what’s happening to Firefox?
Nothing. Lemmy hates Firefox for some reason. It’s getting old and boring seeing these posts. You can disable all the telemetry crap and anything else you want in the about:config. The fact that they let you do this automatically makes it better than most other browsers.
Nothing. People have been memeing about it’s death for 10 years.
I had another reply that gave a decent reason to support the meme :)
They’ve been making announcements indicating that they’re going to start focusing on chatbot/AI/LLM bullshit instead of what they should be doing, which is maintaining their web browser.
🤮
Welp
There’s also the news of them forcing opt-out only on tracking today or yesterday
Then there was the news that they fired one of their open source executives because he had the audacity to get cancer
Then the news that they (Mozilla) acquired an ad company because “we’re built different and we can fix her and totally not get corrupted by ads in the process”
Also the AI shit as commented
Oh and then the news where they almost sucked Putins dick and pulled FF from being accessible in Russia for a day or 2
And a bunch of other stuff that I’m probably forgetting about. And that’s just within the last year
Well I guess I need to start looking for another non-chromium-based browser soon…
Jokes on you, there isn’t one that’s not just a fork of Firefox.
Joke’s on you, Safari.
Safari is only available on Macs and iOS devices, so it’s not real (because I can’t see it)
This process has been underway since the project switched their focus from the Mozilla Suite to Firefox. Early Firefox was lightweight with limited features and the idea that you would add your own as extensions for the features you wanted. Then it started gaining traction and the Mozilla developers started forcing features in that should’ve been extensions. It’s been downhill ever since!
Fucking Pocket.
A few months ago people would have still downvoted your comment, but the message has made it to everyone now. Mozilla and with that Firefox is an endangered species that needs to be steered back into safety.
Can confirm, this is accurate.
Even better, they took actual extensions and made them built-in and impossible to remove. The work was already done to keep a lightweight browser with extra features in option, and they reverted it.
zen browser (hardened) or forked librewolf that is designed to be fast is nice (my distro has this browser called cachy browser its based on librewolf with some compiler optimizations and its nice)
Yeah so I also use CachyOS on a couple things and one of them also uses Cachy Browser.
