Description: A picture titled “Russian plants” in a 3 x 3 grid with one of the grid items being Jill Stein, the rest are flora.

    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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      13 days ago

      I support genocide fuck the Seventh Day Adventist, strip them of their religion and scatter em to the winds!

      Thats how ya support genocide ya fucken dipshit, recognizing one cant really do anything is not. The problem with Israel is that to cut em off would require an act of Congress not just the president. And lets be honest that aint fucken happenen’.

  • pgp@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    You guys do realize that the whole world laughs at your inability to conceive proper left politics, right?

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      14 days ago

      That’s because we have a Russian plant at the helm of the only, let’s be honest, sort-of-not-really viable third party in this country. We need and overhaul of our voting system to get out of this mess, like with RCV

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      14 days ago

      That’s ok we got all the money. Your country does what we tell it to, I’m betting.

    • JaymesRS@literature.cafeOP
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      14 days ago

      A) Jill Stein ≠ left politics B) “proper left politics” involves doing more than just running as a presidential candidate every 4 years funded by the political party in farthest opposition to your political agenda.

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      14 days ago

      Ohhh he’s proper left politics Jill stein poasting! He’s gonna dissennnnnnnttttttt

    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      13 days ago

      Image thinking Russia is left-wing.

      Imagine thinking that leftism is a coherent ideology, instead of an arbitrary list of disparate and often-contradicting positions.

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          13 days ago

          Correct; I think tankies pretend leftism is a coherent thing (particularly one that includes them) because it helps them infiltrate, corrupt, take over, and destroy leftist projects.

          The negation of this fiction is an attack against them for that reason.

  • hark@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    What’s with the focus on Jill Stein? Third parties aren’t relevant and the number of people who vote for them is far overshadowed by the number of people who don’t vote at all. There are better uses of time than this lame two minutes hate session.

    • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
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      13 days ago

      Because this is the time of year that Stein starts pushing herself as a candidate after doing nothing for 4 years, and this is an incredibly close presidential race where voting third party is dangerous. Stein herself is also extremely questionable as a candidate so of course people are going to talk about it. There is a vocal minority of Lemmings who are pushing Stein and other third parties very hard, so I can completely understand why others are pushing back with threads like this one.

    • SeattleRain@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already lost two elections they had the majority of votes in.

      Harris, while popular, is in a dead heat in several swing states with Trump and it’s very likely she’ll lose. Liberals think that having third party candidates takes away votes from Harris even through all evidence points to the contrary.

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        13 days ago

        Since Democrats Republicans are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already ~~lost~won two elections they had the majorityminority of votes in.

        FTFY.

      • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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        12 days ago

        Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college

        The Democrats would love to do away with the EC because it would swing the power wildly in their favor. The problem is that they can’t unilaterally do it because it would require a constitutional amendment that would require Republican controlled states to vote against their own power.

        It’s dead in the water which is why it’s never heavily pursued…and you’re blaming this on democrat corruption? What a wildly delusional take.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      What’s with the focus on Jill Stein?

      She’s a release valve for the Arab-American protest vote. Arab-Americans are concentrated in the Midwest. Kamala desperately needs the Midwest wall to hold in order to win the White House.

      “Jill Stein is a Russian Plant” is going to become “Arab Americans stabbed America in the back” in a few months, particularly if Harris loses. We’re just seeing the prelude to the anti-Muslim hysteria boiling up in the Democratic Party.

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      13 days ago

      Democrats don’t have a comprehensive worldview that can explain why they are so widely disliked and why so many people are apathetic/actively hostile towards America. Russiagate fills the gap in their understanding of the world by imagining that Vladimir Putin is a Great Man of History and that his perfidious scheming is responsible for all of the ills of America’s democratic system.

    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Russian shills + USA republicans began pushing propaganda for her in a big way after they couldn’t find a decent angle to effectively attack Harris like they did with Biden. Leave that propaganda unchecked and she will divert more than a few votes because propaganda works, so fortunately there is a lot of pushback in the other way.

        • JaymesRS@literature.cafeOP
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          14 days ago

          Posting a link to a handful of names on sporadic ballots across the US is a dumb person’s idea of what “serious electoral effort” is.

          Son, I am disappoint.

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              13 days ago

              If you think a political party (or “serious electoral/political effort”) is just “names on a few ballots,” there is no amount of crayons that someone can use to draw you a picture and get you up to speed.

              Pick a candidate or GoTV organization to volunteer with for a while and come back after that experience.

              • escapesamsara@lemmings.world
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                13 days ago

                Did do that, helped several greens get elected. The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history. You have billionaires, racist soccer moms, aipac, and no real humans on your side.

                • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history.

                  Do you have a source or was this bullshit pulled from your own ass?

          • blazera@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            Yes they are a much smaller political party, that doesnt mean theyre not putting in serious effort

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            14 days ago

            I remember that green party candidate in AZ a few years back had more funding from Republicans lmao.

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          13 days ago

          The one guy running for a seat on the Arizona Corporation commission is the only one I saw running in the short of race where the Greens have a chance to affect change. Running for the federal House or Senate isn’t where they should be focusing their efforts until they build a base of support.

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            13 days ago

            Why not run for the House? A seat has 750k-800k population and quite a few districts are much further left then US average. If a further left candidate would run its those seats, that would force the Democrats to move left.

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        12 days ago

        It must be the fault of foreigners right? Because no “true American” can be critical of our own country’s military industrial complex?

        Dems have fully transitioned into Bush era Republicans

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          12 days ago

          What are you being critical of? You’re definitely being disingenuous. Jill Stein is garbage, has been photographed with Putin and his staff at events, and is working with republicans.

          If you wanna defend what the Green Party used to aspire to go right ahead but when they hold near 0 offices around the country, and I believe actually 0 at the federal level at some point you blaming that on dems starts to sound a whole lot like republican propaganda.

          Y’all have some false equivalency between dems and trump republicans but you can’t see that most dem voters would be aligned with your views more than the right if you weren’t only trying to spoil our candidates.

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            What are you being critical of?

            The American military industrial complex. That’s what I said in the comment you’re responding to.

            • almar_quigley@lemmy.world
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              12 days ago

              So you are implying that Jill Stein is genuine and not most likely a foreign asset. Because that’s the original point of this post, not propping up the military industrial complex.

              But I also see the .ml on your instance….so it all becomes clear.

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                I’ll rewind since you apparently have short term memory loss and can’t use the “show context” button.

                I commented:

                This post is sponsored by Lockheed, Raytheon, and AIPAC

                Then you responded:

                This comment is sponsored by Russia, China, and Iran.

                Then I said:

                It must be the fault of foreigners right? Because no “true American” can be critical of our own country’s military industrial complex?

                Then you had a memory wipe apparently and started writing paragraphs about something else instead of addressing anything that I wrote

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    This “Jill Stein is trying to spoil the election” makes no sense.

    Jill Stein did not found the Green Party. If Jill Stein didn’t exist, the Greens would just choose another candidate. The outcome would be the same.

    She is not an independent like Bobby Kennedy.

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      13 days ago

      Stien is the nominee for one of the worthless 3rd parties we have here. The only people who vote for her are narcissists who call trump Hitler but are okay with letting him win by throwing away their votes so they can pretend to be extra liberal. In some ways they are just as bad as trump supporters.

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        Divide-and-conquer just enough to let bush win, then trump.
        It’s because of these bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL mY pUriTeH assholes that we got the Iraq invasion, the Kyoto Protocol global warming agreement being ignored and discarded, the indifferent federal response to the Katrina disaster in New Orleans, children in cages separated from their immigrant parents, the sluggish response to Covid, etc.

        The world an objectively worse place via republican excrement policies, none of which would have happened if these narcissistic assholes weren’t enamored of the stench of their own mUh PuRiTeH! flatulences to see a clear and present danger in front of our noses.

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        In a way they’re worse. At least MAGAs are open about being shitty people and don’t pretend otherwise. Stein supporters will act smug and superior (“I didn’t vote for Trump directly, so my hands are totally clean!”) while they let Trump fuck everyone (Gaza included) over. They’re so focused on what’s happening across the ocean that they don’t care about the dumpster fire happening at home unless they can use it as ammunition to push “BoTh SiDeS” bullshit.

  • febra@lemmy.world
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    I find it hilarious how democrats would rather go on a pathetic smear campaign against Jill Stein instead of actually making real concessions and bringing people back to vote for Kamala. I, as a European, hope your democracy works exactly as designed. Maybe you’ll wake up that way.

    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      I still remember back in January? February? Libs were telling me that Gaza wouldn’t be a factor in this election, because nobody really cared.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      They’re terrified, because the election is close and a reliable liberal voting block - Arab Americans - is increasingly disenchanted with a liberal leadership that’s pandering to fascists.

      If too many Deerborn, Michigan residents defect from the Harris ticket, liberals are going to be foisted with another four years of Trump. And then the Arab-Americans will be to blame, of course. Not the AIPAC lobbyists or the MIC merchants of death or the O&G land-thieves or the domestic white nationalists. Its those stupid Arabs and their pro-Russian Jill Stein agenda.

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            According to Jill she was there to…

            deliver the—one of the main messages of my campaign, which is that war has failed in the Middle East and that we need a peace offensive consisting of a weapons embargo and a freeze on the funding, the bank accounts of those countries that are sponsoring terrorism. At the time, Russia had just begun to bomb Syria. And my message was that Russia was following in the disastrous footsteps of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.

            So ironically she was actually there talking about a very similar subject in a way to this exact post, war in the middle east. Good to see she hasn’t changed her policy, I guess.

            https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/1/jill_stein_on_trump_as_a

            • frezik@midwest.social
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              Can I get a dinner with Putin where I tell him he shouldn’t do bad things in the Middle East? Because as far as world leaders are concerned, Jill Stein is only slightly more important than you or me, unless Putin has a much more specific reason.

              • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I bet if you were the Green Party’s (or even the Libertarian’s) nominee for the 2016 presidential race you could, in 2015, yes.

                Probably not now but things have changed a little since then if you haven’t noticed lol.

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                  Dude, that statement above is brazenly self-serving. She wasn’t there to do anything about the Middle East. You only get dinner invites with Putin if he expects to get something from you. Doubly so when Michael Flynn is sitting right next to him.

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    Can’t speak for many of the rest, but jade plants are from southern Africa. I demand geophylogenetically accurate memes.

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    13 days ago

    It sucks that common mugwort is still illegal here in Indiana. Thankfully, there’s a dispensary about 30 minutes away in Illinois.