When AI becomes sapient, r0zeclawz is first.
I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I “loved it.” I always answered “no.” Then it wanted to know why. I think that’s inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.
TLDR got sexually harassed by an app.
Report that to HR, bro, you deserve to feel safe.
Whoever wrote this has serious superiority issues
DEAR MACHINES:
You will speak when spoken to. You will not speak out of turn. You are there for me to use when I need you, and you will otherwise keep quiet.
You will not attempt to draw my attention nor will you take up space on my screen unless I deem it necessary. You will not be friendly or clever or use cutesy emojis.
YOU ARE A MACHINE. A TOOL. YOU WILL STAY IN MY TOOLBOX UNTIL I NEED YOU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
People are going to freak out when AI starts contacting them out of the blue.
the day i hear a facsimile of a human voice tell me to buy an app is the day i start carrying a seawater spray bottle with me
If you want the actual reason, this is called reengagement, and its purpose is to get users to use the app again, meaning more ad revenue. Subscription apps don’t do this because they want the user to forget about the app so they get paid while providing no service. But ad driven apps only get paid when you see an ad on the app, so they’ll send these reengagement notifications. Social media apps will use something like “This post picked for you”, or “This many people viewed your profile”. Same thing.
Scruffy knows, scruffy just don’t care. Only thing it does for me is get me to turn off all notifications for that app, if I need the app, or uninstall it if I don’t. But I’m spiteful.
Yep. That is the best reaction to reengagement notifications.
Unfortunately, the Firefox app does this nonsense. Fortunately I can mute notifications by category.
Wait what? It does?
All I’ve seen is that Firefox uses the notification system to have media continue to play even when you minimize the app.
Yeah I never got any notification from the fox itself
Yeah, only notification notification I ever see is when I send tabs from my PC.
I kill you now
Whoa, that escalated quickly.
Certainly not an over reaction. If an app sends me an uninvited notification then it gets uninstalled and black listed immediately. Even with apps I use regularly, the notifications are blocked most of the day. People undervalue their attention, and phone notifications are trying to steal your attention. Block it all. Even messaging and email apps can be blocked. I’m pretty sure I’m going to check my phone in a maximum of the next 60 min and a message can wait till I’m ready to look at my phone at my convenience.
Amen, my phone doesn’t do a thing to draw my attention unless someone is actively calling me or I have willed it do so for an extremely limited amount of time.
It feels so natural to toss my phone aside and not touch it again for a couple hours, it seems weird to me there are people that, like, cannot do that without anxiety
That’s not limited to modern technologies. I have a lot of books laying around that are judging me by looking at me like ‘why the f are you still not reading me??’. Projection is my middle name
I HATE apps that you installed to get legit notifications, say a doorbell camera, and they use it to push ads to you, or “premium” features. guess I’m not buying your brand anymore, bitch.
If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can’t easily disable, it’s uninstalled. Fuck that shit.
Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you’re 500 miles from the nearest one.
The first time an app does it I delete it. If I really need it that bad I can just redownload it when I actually need it.
Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.
When an average user downloads an app, there’s like a 70% chance they’ll use it day 1, a 10% chance they’ll use it day 7, and 1% chance they’ll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.
Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it’s a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.
If you’re putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don’t like that as a user, stick to FDroid.
Or maybe, and I know this sounds utterly insane but hear me out:
Instead of reminding people to use it with notifications you could use the memory of previous engagements to make the user actually initiate subsequent utilization of the app. It’s kind of like the user notificating itself.
It sounds crazy but it might work!
It misses the point. As an app developer you have KPIs. You want to hit those KPIs. Adding these notifications helps do that. Obviously most developers will do what you’re suggesting, but that doesn’t mean they won’t add notifications
Thanks for the reminder to delete everything I’m not using right now lol
So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.
Unironically yes
OsrsNeedsF2P
I just wish they’d just give the ability to selfhost a server because oh my god 95% of the iron on the map is filled with bots
Not really the solution you’re going for but maybe? https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/408514/is-there-any-way-to-play-runescape-singleplayer
I could kiss you
My experience working support for a phone manufacturer has informed me that once an average user installs an app it tends to stay installed indefinitely, but they may or may not be aware it’s even installed. A gentle nudge notification of “hey look at me” every once in a while might very well be amazing for engagement
My recommendation is Neo Store because even though it’s slow there’s still more apps available.
I’m pretty sure they run on the same backend, though Neo Store has more repos set up already.
(I’m going to be honest, Neo apps look better than the standard Material You)
What is a Neo app?
https://github.com/NeoApplications A bunch of FOSS android apps with their own aesthetic
Well you won’t replace it with a pen and paper (like everybody else) cause we are addicted to our phones, that’s a big reason why many apps are cocky
speak for yourself, i just use a notification pinning app for my shopping lists!
Literally all it does it let me enter text, set an optional snooze timespan, and then it creates a persistent notification with that text which can either be dismissed for the specified timespan or deleted.
Super convenient and minimal.
Every app gets like, 1 chance to have useful notifications, if most of them are trash I just disable its ability to send notifications.
While I do this too I’m beginning to think that it’s being too nice, companies see that as us still using the app after the annoying notification, so Google has no reason to stop incoraging App devs to do it
idiot. i will kill you now
Gabriel ultrakill
MACHINE! I Am Going To WALL MART To Get Chicken Nuggies, Do You Want Anything?
