Even though it’s scientifically unsupportable, I’m still genuinely interested in what it’s like to live on Vega.
Listen up, carnoid of planet Omnius, many geological surveys have shown robust evidence that Vega is capable of harboring all known forms of humanoid life and that its atmospheric makeup in fact provides benefits for cardiovascular health and hivemind coherency.
Hi vegans! I’m not really inclined to go anywhere near c/vegan while you’re working all this stuff out so while you’re here let me just take this opportunity to say I admire your diet and stuff. Glad you’re around, hope it goes well.
You have been banned by c/vegan
Can’t wait for this to be lemmy’s /r/Pyongyang
He ain’t even done yet.
Good, it seems he’s done much more for that community than Beaver, her alts, and you (assuming you’re not also an alt) have done for it. Generally making toxic and antagonistic memes all day and attacking the instance moderation are not healthy and productive things for a community. It also doesn’t help the movement at all, and actually can end up hurting it.
Am I a sockpuppet? Do my parents know this?? WHY DID THEY NEVER TELL ME?!
JF, nobody accused you of sockpuppetry. Meatpuppetry maybe, but the only sockpuppet I can see is Thelemmybud.
I don’t wish for us to interact.
Its like with Santa Claus. You parents value your happiness first.
Banning people for downvoting posts seems like an overstep of position
Seems like beaver went crazy and jerkface did too. I dont know about you.
Look buddy, I’m just in this post to circlejerk. If you want to argue, kindly go back to the OP
I don’t necessarily agree, if a post is clearly within the guidelines of the community, and the mods consider it a quality post, that person probably doesn’t get the community.
Banning people for downvoting posts is the most sensitive thing I’ve actually seen on the internet first hand.
And yet they probably still think people dislike them just because they’re vegan 🤷♂️
I’m sure you are aware that brigading has been a problem in The Motherland since the very beginning. Now that we have the tools to detect and address such behaviour, are you prepared to say you are categorically against using that information to inform moderation decisions?
That conveniently ignores what the actual issue was, since if Beaver had replied to the request to discuss those actions with the other mods we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Not consulting with other mods before making COMMUNITY decisions was, to my mind, the main reason for being demoded.
If Beaver committed some kind of moderator offense by not responding in the second moderator’s unstated timeframe, then surely that second moderator committed an equal offense by demodding THREE moderators without consulting anyone else. No one even knew that this was up his ass before he went nuclear. I don’t know how you all can look at this and say it is anything less than a transparent coup.
I DID receive a message from Beaver a day before the other moderator went wild with power, stating her intentions to perform a three day moderation blitz where things would be extra strict. Due to the limitations of the medium we’re working in, I don’t know if anyone replied to that, but it hasn’t been mentioned. According to the evidence I have, Beaver was trying to communicate and the other moderator was not.
I note that Beaver has now left the site completely, probably due to the dog piling and bullying. So, job well done. You made people unhappy. Good work, the Internet is safe once again.
I note that Beaver has now left the site completely, probably due to the dog piling and bullying. So, job well done. You made people unhappy. Good work, the Internet is safe once again.
Oh lord. The victim complex is STRONG here.
I would suggest perhaps they left because they were unwilling to take responsibility for the fallout and repercussions of their own actions, which seem to have razzed a number of people.
Oh, I get it now. You’re one of Beaver’s alts.
Downvoting a post ain’t brigading 😂
Is there not an option in Lemmy to make a community private, or exclude it from /all?
That sounds like what you need if you can’t handle general users disagreeing with you.
Downvoting a post can be brigading. Voting posts up or down is indeed the primary thing that brigades do.
I did not say that this was an example of brigading. I don’t know that. I pointed out that the views you are sharing imply that you would also be against taking action against brigading.
Sorry you’re having trouble following this. It’s honestly not very complicated. I think if you read the thread from the beginning with an open mind instead of preconceived biases, you will find it easier to follow.
Then tools should be built against brigading. For example, observing high quantity downvotes per unit time, as compared to the general traffic on the post. Then scrubbing or smoothing the votes as such.
I will start working on private communities soon.
We appreciate your work 🫡
Is there not an option in Lemmy to make a community private, or exclude it from /all?
There is no option to hide a community from All at the moment.
Private communities exist, but require to add every member as a mod, unrealistic for anything with more than a few members.
This is exactly why non anonymous voting is a big problem for the fediverse
This is a common thing happening on Lemmy.
Someone is power hungry.
Hard to feel full when you eat salad all day
Actually, out of all the foods I’ve eaten, tofu makes me feel consistently the fullest for longest. I don’t know why it works that way, but even meat was never this effective.
Also, it sounds like whatever salads you’re eating are pretty mid if you can’t feel full after them. Half a bag of iceberg lettuce with dressing and three croutons isn’t a meal.
I don’t know why, but tofu makes me ill. I’ve tried it made differently, and in all but one case, my stomach and it didn’t agree.
One Thai restaurant had a great tofu that I was able to eat, but that’s been the only one, and it’s over 1000 miles to get more.
If you’re making it on your own, the problem might be that you don’t press it. Unpressed tofu makes me feel sick too, and it’s really vital to do so so it can absorb flavors.
If it’s when you’re eating out, I’m not really sure in that case. Tofu can be anything from extremely soft to pretty firm, so it could be the firmness of the tofu that’s an issue here, but it’s hard to say. I like it when tofu is very firm and then cooked to be crispy personally.
Tofu is freaking bomb for satiation. Can’t say it outperforms meat overall, but as a single food, it equals it, gram for gram. Like, if I’m eating tofu by itself, it gets me just as satisfied as meat by itself.
I think it ends up not lasting as long sometimes because of the lower fat levels. You have to bring fats to the party for long term satiation for most people. That’s easy to achieve though.
But yeah, I definitely feel you. And now I want some teriyaki tofu dammit.
Tofu is good but among the traditional protein sources seitan is my favorite. It’s got the best texture by far.
Agreed. There’s a particular Chinese seitan dish that I really like but I don’t know what it’s called. It tastes kind of like a sweet curry flavor and is very juicy. Would anyone happen to know what it could be?
Okay now I’m just getting ready to block Beaver, thejerkface and Thelemmybud because they just keep spamming this all over the place. I don’t know if their intention is to try to drum up support but it should be obvious to them from the number of downvotes they keep getting that their crocodile tears aren’t working.
This whole thing keeps delivering
Get the popcorn with margarine out!
Sprinkling in nutritional yeast is the best way to eat popcorn.
I have no skin in this game, and just think the drama is funny.
Poor Jerkface. He’s funny. He threatened to block all of my accounts but didn’t. I like him. He makes me laugh.
Sorry, I did what? “All of my accounts?” Do I know you?
Some months ago, maybe a year, you responded to one of my comments with something along the lines of, “How many fucking accounts of yours do I have to block?” I set about responding to the comment from each of my accounts so you could block them all then I got distracted and did something else.
The Lemmy/Reddit moderator structure is a failure. Communities should have democratic governance.
On this specific issue I think everyone involved needs to take a deep breath, step away from the issue for like 24 hours, and talk to each other respectfully to work out how this should be resolved. But that is just my opinion.
Communities should have democratic governance.
I’ve seen some instances elect their admins. No mod election yet, but that probably happened somewhere.
To be fair, as a mod myself, the issue is usually to get potential mod candidates in the first place.
I wonder what kind of structure they used. I’m also a mod mainly because somebody has to be. But my communities are small and not controversial so I haven’t had to do anything controversial either. It’s mostly that I’m willing to keep an eye on things.
However, maybe I should walk the walk and start thinking about how that might work in case they grow to the point where more moderation becomes necessary.
I just realized I’ve seen you a lot on /r/Redditalternatives! Nice to see you here!
Likewise. I like to spread the good word as well haha.
It would be fantastic to see an automated system, like with X downvotes a post or comment gets hidden, yet all it takes is one extra click to show it so it doesn’t mean much.
However, the Lemmy devs seem strictly pro-authoritarian so I expect to never see that on Lemmy, unless it is developed and shown to work elsewhere and becomes too popular to ignore. i.e. the power-tripping
godspeople in charge is baked right in as a feature, not a bug (it would seem).But… maybe in Piefed, Sublinks, Mbin, or something else?
Vegan coup
They grow up so fast.
All they did was kick a bunch of mods that were harming a community and trying to create drama without even having the balls to discuss openly the reasons they were banning people. The comments about how a moderator that was there for 3 months should have more power than a moderator that had been there for 11 days (despite one of them not having the wellbeing of the community as a priority) is an amazing joke. https://lemmy.world/post/19731457 everyone should read this post and they will quickly understand after reading op and the comments from people like jerkface why this happened. Posting a modlog without context or explanation is acting in pretty bad faith here.
Also, as a community (lemmy as a whole) we should think if we want to keep people like Beaver who moderates 100+ communities, there are a lot of people moderating way more than they can chew and becoming really stupid, as also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world. We really love to be repeating reddits problems.
I take it that was a swipe at me.
Sorry you feel that way.
I don’t do as much moderation as my co-mods, and that’s by design. All our moderators are active and spread across the globe.
I just happen to be the face of the community.
Also, thanks for being civil. You don’t want to see the DMs mods got. It was brutal.
100+ communities,
95 of those are inactive.
There are mods on LW who moderate 10 active communities. Even further, any LW admins can virtually mod all of the LW community.
also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world.
Indeed.
Crazy how much juicy drama that community has been providing. The rest need to step up or this place will just be about vegans.
And bean memes… Hey! WAIT A SECOND!
Sorry, this whole thing was a guerilla marketing campaign for legumes all along.
