• Teknikal@eviltoast.org
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    4 months ago

    My opinion I’d say lose chrome if you absolutely need a chromium browser use thorium any other time use Firefox or a fork of it like Librewolf.

    The reason I say Thorium is because this is in the readme.

    Manifest V2 support force enabled (Starting in M128 they are experimenting with disabling MV2). It will be completely removed in M136 (10 months from now), and when they finally do remove the actual code for loading MV2 extensions, it will be restored, because F**k Google! Even if it takes a crapload of work, I am determined to restore it, because without UBlock Origin working properly in Thorium, I wouldn't even want to use my own browser!
    
    
  • fiend_unpleasant ☑️ @lemmy.world
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    is there a way to force dark mode like in chromium? #enable-force-dark has been a life saver for me. I have a TBI and white screens are physically painful. I keep trying to go back to FireFox, but none of the darkmode addons seem to have this kind of always on, no exceptions kind of feature

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    If you’re not a fan of Firefox right now, with the few odd decisions they’ve been making, try Floorp or Zen. They’re quite good forks of Firefox and don’t seem to have any of the recent Firefox oddness in them.

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    Qutebrowser and (maybe, haven’t tried) Falkon can use qtwebkit as a backend

    luakit, surf, otter, epiphany, badwolf, vimb use gtkwebkit

    lynx, links, elinks, w3m, netsurf use their own browser engines

    there’s also 😒 f*refox 😒 and its forks, if you need cancer like css, js, webrtc, or wasm

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          Changing your search engine doesn’t stop Google from controlling 80% of Mozilla’s revenue or almost the entirety of the rest of the browser space

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            No but the US government might, and then where will Firefox be?

            Hopefully still kicking because I don’t want to go back to chrome

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        Who cares where the revenue comes from? There’s no google spyware in there, and it’s competition, that’s what really matters.

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          I just don’t like that we’re relying on the goodwill (or need for token “competition” to try to avoid antitrust) of Google for Mozilla to stick around, an ad company shouldn’t be de facto controlling almost every single browser

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        Even if the Mozilla foundation went bankrupt tomorrow, Firefox would persist. It might not be as quick to update, but it’s an open source project that people will keep working on, regardless of the money.

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          I’ve always been curious how many lines of code in Chromium and Firefox are from salaried software engineers, and how many are from community contributions

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “guys ios is bad try android”

    looks inside android: its literally bad

    “guys try this fork of android”

    looks inside: it’s better, i guess.

    technology fucking sucks, remember when you could just buy software and that shit worked? Yeah me neither i use linux shits free over here.

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    What’s preventing me, a private user, from just creating my own web browser? it’s a program like any other that just needs to be able to access each websites’ server and display its files right? You can’t tell me that nobody else has ever wanted to make their own alternative, so why do we never hear about them?

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      Because they’re giant applications that do a lot under the hood that you don’t see. Of course you can write your own, we did that during my degree but it was extremely basic.

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      It’s possible. But it’s a huge undertaking. If you just wanted to fully understand all of the specifications for HTTP, JavaScript and CSS, it’d take you days before having written a single line of code.

      Then you need to write all that in a performant way.

      Then you need to keep up with all the new features.

      Then you need to keep up with all the new security threats.

      Browsers nowadays are practically little operating systems. So the question is not that far off from asking what prevents you from writing an alternative to Windows.

      You can. But it’ll cost millions, or maybe billions, to build something good.

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      Time and knowledge. Browsers are basically almost an OS nowadays in capabilities. Yes you can build a basic HTML renderer quickly. But anything beyond that just takes a enormous amount of effort and time especially if you want to make it performant and secure. Like it’s very easy to accidentally introduce a vulnerability that can be exploited by someone. Like the last few generations of Nintendo consoles were hacked and jailbroken trough the browser. And that’s a browser build with WebKit by a team of engineers. Good luck doing it on your own, especially without Chromium or WebKit.

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      a program like any other that just needs to be able to access each websites’ server and display its files right?

      In software engineering “just” is often considered a dirty word.

      Rendering HTML and CSS correctly is not trivial.

      Doing JavaScript to spec also is not trivial.

      Doing all your http verb network request stuff is also not trivial.

      Plus the interface (probably graphical) is a lot of work.

      There’s also probably a thousand other things that would eat up time. Displaying all the different image formats, for example.

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      Probably the fact that you could work for the rest of your life and never catch up to the current spec. It’s enormous, and they’re adding more things faster than you could ever keep up with.

      Even MS couldn’t be bothered any more, and that’s a $3 trillion business.

      Which is why there’s only three browser engines in any kind of use.

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      The main thing is technical nuances, and a never ending list of them.

      But you could start with something like lynx or elinks, but at that point you may as well just use lynx or elinks.

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      Chrome branched off of Webkit, the core of Safari. Certain parts are distantly related, but the browsers are managed and developed separately. Most chrome forks are much closer to the original project and don’t do significant on the browser, just maintain some small patches and customize the branding.

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    I want to get more points in speedometer 3 using firefox. I’ve seen results above 20-24, but I can’t get more than 12 because js takes a long time to process. What to do? Rebuild firefox with the -0fast flag??

    Any suggestions are welcome

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    > downloads desktop app

    > looks inside

    > it’s a webpage with a dedicated browser

    (Web 2.0 and it’s consequences…)

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      Why I dislike web apps. They make the devs lazy enough to not bother making a native app

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      Why even make a desktop app at this point? I get doing that if it has some inherent advantage over the web version, but why go through the trouble of making another program if it’s just gonna be the same but in electron?

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        A few advantages.

        1. You can make app specific notifications.

        2. You can stop worrying about security since you just lock the electron version

        3. The user thinks it is an actual app and that this is better.

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        Example with Discord (a website and an electron app): You have to download the desktop app to have stuff like: game activity (show others what game you are playing), global hotkeys for stuff like muting microphone, local Krisp noise cancellation

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        Think of all that lovely data and tracking you can slurp up when unconstrained by the browser sandbox.