• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I can see how someone would make this mistake. On the other hand, it’s not hard to see why this is a bad idea.

    Here’s the situation. Approaching or propositioning anyone while they’re at work is going to come off poorly since they’re backed into a corner. They’re a captive audience, as they must be in that space in order to get paid. In the case of retail, not only are they supposed to be nice to you, but they often can’t physically avoid you lest they get in trouble for poor service. In the end, the already hard job of saying “no” is made much worse by compounding it with proper workplace behavior. And even if they would find your advances interesting in any other setting, it’s the workplace that’s likely to sour things.

    Edit: Anon needs to do this in a setting where everyone can come and go freely, in a place where people deliberately go to be social.

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      2 years ago

      I gave a girl at her work my number and she messaged me back saying she got a boyfriend but we can hang out.

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      2 years ago

      Plus a footrub… is quite something as a first. I mean, what happened to asking someone out for a drink for starters.

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    Better than the one I worked at. There was a dude that worked there that was harassing one of the cashiers and instead of firing him they moved him out to the tire shop with us. He had 0 experience with cars and wasn’t qualified for that even by Wal-Mart standards. A couple weeks later he got fired for fucking up too many cars but in the mean time we bullied the shit out of him for being a creep and walked him out after we closed to make sure he actually left and didn’t try to wait around for her to get off.

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      That’s the shittest department to pawn him off on lol, auto doesn’t even make a profit, it’s a dog to get people in and stuck shopping while they wait. I think they must have done it to get him canned because tech and service writer were super high turnover in my market because you need actual skill to do it right and the job doesn’t pay enough if you do. I personally used to roll on Douglases and get all my oil changes there because of employee discount but only because the auto techs were all attending the nearby technical school and working with a degree of pride guaranteed by their TL who ran a tight ship, I trusted her, women who can thrive in that environment have to both know their shit and be tough lol.

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    2 years ago

    Oof. There’s fucking up, and then there’s getting banned from Wal-Mart. The only lower position is getting banned from the dollar store.

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      2 years ago

      In order to be banned from a dollar store, the one employee working there would have to Home Alone the place to keep you out

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      2 years ago

      Start by learning, “retail employees have to act friendly and be nice to you. It has nothing to do with their actual feelings.”

      It’s good practice for “women often have to act nice to men they don’t like, because they’re afraid of being harmed by them before they can get to safety.”

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        As stated, you gotta start somewhere. Nobody is born knowing what to do or how to keep mouse from pissing themselves.

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        Honestly her liking him or just pretending is irrelevant. Start by learning “offering to rub someone’s feet (or any other somewhat intimate touching) is NOT a good way to flirt, even if they do like you!”

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        retail employees have to act friendly and be nice to you

        As an European, if a retail employee ever acts friendly or even smiles at me I’m not setting foot in that retail chain ever again.

        I don’t want creepy freaks bothering me while I’m trying to shop, I just want to shop and be left alone unless I ask for something (which would also be a red flag, the products should be sufficiently well organised and labelled that asking will never be necessary).

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          Haha, I worked in a high-end gift shop and spent my day reading labels for ladies too vain to wear reading glasses.

          I’d help them pick out the gift they needed, often for their mother in law which I think is unfair, it’s HIS mom. Then while we wrapped the gift, they’d get several other items for their own home.

          We weren’t on commission so it was never a “hard sell,” and I was always sensitive to people who prefer to shop alone because I do too. But some customers want attention or at least human interaction.

          And sometimes I would take a mom’s little kids around the store, showing them the things it was okay to touch and steering them away from the fragile porcelain, so their mom could relax enough to think about what she needed to get. Fortunately we had a section of “grandma gifts for children” so I could always take them there if she was comfortable having them out of her sight.

          And then a few times a year we’d get a man, who was shopping for his wife or his own mother! We’d always help them out because they’d be lost, and often it was less about finding the things, and more about asking about her, so we could help them figure out what she might enjoy and appreciate.

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            2 years ago

            In Europe not hitting customers with the wet fish is considered the height of customer service. Anything in excess of that is considered highly intimate.

            Seriously though, the American style glad-handing salesman attitude does not go over well anywhere other than the United States.

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        Still, if instead of talking to her multiple timers during her shift and creeping her out with the footrub offe, he could have just asked her for a coffee after work, which she could politely decline. After that, he could leave her alone, and still occasionally shop at the same Walmart.

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    I can be a pretty naive guy. I am continually amazed not just by the volume, but by the varieties of creepiness that women have to put up with on a daily basis. WTF, Anon?

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        Maybe the employee contained about having to stand for hours upon hours (because Walmart sucks) and idiot anon misread it as an opportunity?

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      I guarantee any weirdo going “people of walmart” watching in the store is attracting looks from people literally just minding their business tho

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    I’m visiting US in 2 weeks… Is Walmart really as dank as I keep hearing?

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      Walmart sucks. It’s designed to keep you wandering around and picking up shit you don’t need. You’ll go in for one thing, and leave half an hour later with 14 things you didn’t come in for and don’t need. And also they didn’t have the one thing you needed. And the shit you did buy is junk. And any perishable food items you buy will be moldy within 36 hours. Walmart sucks.

      And they only can provide that useless compulsive junk so cheaply because they bulk order everything and then just change their offering price after the product is manufactured. So the manufacturer can’t just say “No deal” when they already produced massive quantities that they don’t have the logistical means to sell to other buyers. Walmart bleeds everyone dry. Smothers competing business with their price models, ravages towns, fuck Walmart.

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        And they only can provide that useless compulsive junk so cheaply because they bulk order everything and then just change their offering price after the product is manufactured. So the manufacturer can’t just say “No deal” when they already produced massive quantities that they don’t have the logistical means to sell to other buyers.

        I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but how does that work more than once? Wouldn’t any manufacturer quit working with them after this happened once? Isn’t the agreed price for a bulk order set down in writing before the manufacturing starts?

        Have you got a source for this?

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          I saw a documentary that talked about how they did this to Rubbermaid once. I don’t have a link but that might be a good starting point for research.

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                I thought you meant they did it Rubbermaid once. As in Rubbermaid didn’t let them do that again.

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                  As in, “once, because it basically bankrupted Rubbermaid”.

                  They played those games with everyone, like Clorox, book and magazine companies, General Mills, etc. But most towns have a Walmart and don’t have a lot of other options, so if you want sales you play ball with the Waltons :(

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                  From the sound of things in that documentary Rubbermaid got bent over on that deal and was almost bankrupted by it so I imagine it’s been an ongoing thing.

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          Walmart’s literal trainings when you work for them reference this by a different name. They call it “everyday low cost” and say that when they “get a volume discount from a supplier” they can “roll back prices” and they offer scenarios in which this happens which are identical to the process timeworntraveler is accurately describing. I worked there 5 years in many different positions around the store and made sure to learn everything I could and I can indeed confirm this is how Walmart works. It’s actually a really easy to understand business model. For all its flaws and despite being quite dated the documentary “The High Cost of Low Price” https://www.bravenewfilms.org/walmartmovie from all the way back in 2005 is still a good explainer of how Walmart became so dominant as to be able to completely set prices for all aspects of its suppliers and often its labor market. I personally witnessed everyone on my team get a $3 raise overnight when Fred Meyer threatened to poach some of our employees as scab labor to fight their union which was on strike. Now I am a union worker set to make a couple bucks more an hour than I did at Walmart but they always try to keep it competitive.

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      Nah, it used to be back in the days the logo had a smiley face, it was the place for affordable abundance. Ever since I worked there 5 years though I see the whole body of the beast for what it is, and the parts you’re not seeing are super ugly on like every level from produce bags chopped by prisoners in Salinas to sexual harassment of stockers by good ol boy management on the overnight team

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      It’s got everything. It’s great for that. Way more options than elsewhere.

      Its shit quality but if you want a X and want it to last for your two week trip. Walmart is the place to go.

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    2 years ago

    This is giving Asperger’s as fuck. Someone should have told him to just give her his number then walk away.