But the IRS will come after meeee! /s
I’m so sick of companies taking every opportunity to be egregiously shitty in the name of profit.
I’m equally sick of pretty much every sports stadium, event venue, theme park, cruise ship, etc. offering these companies’ beverages and all the consumers in the world that really don’t withhold from supporting these companies, despite their obvious shittiness.
These are the incentives of the economic system. Are you up for radical change? We can’t rely on companies choosing to be moral and nice.
We need workers to own the economy.
We need workers to own the economy
We need an economic system that rewards acting in the common good. This system, but with the workers in charge is still this system which rewards all the bad stuff of modern capitalism
A single owner-dictator is less likely to make decisions for the common good than all employees owning their workplaces together.
Socialism, however it’s implemented (besides state capitalism a la China, which also isn’t socialist), necessarily moves us closer to what you’re saying.
You know there’s a range of options between unfettered capitalism and unfettered communism right?
Slap communism on a population that’s spent the past few generations training itself to reward cunts and you get the USSR on steroids.
I understand the value here, but I prefer to keep control over my business decisions. If employees are interested in having more influence, they should consider starting their own ventures. I believe maintaining direct control allows me to steer my business according to my vision and goals.
Since they are giving up all of that control to you. You must be giving them most of the profits then right? Right? That would only be fair.
Or do you think you deserve more than them somehow because you had money to start a business and they only had skills and knowledge?
I started this business, taught the skills, and make the financial decisions based on what I think is best for the company. I value their input, but the final decisions are up to me since my name is on the line.
Again, if that doesn’t seem fair, maybe consider starting your own business.
So you do think you deserve more then lol
Making financial decisions isn’t a hard job dude. Every grown person is expected to do that in life.Your big benefit was that you had the capital to start the business. That’s why it’s called capitalism. The people with the money like you are like modern day lords. Only living off the privilege of having money when others don’t.
I would gladly start my business if I already had enough capital for it. But I need healthcare for my family and for some reason that is tied to my job, making it an insurmountable expense. Maybe that reason is to keep me working for oblivious people like you, instead of myself.
You don’t know how I started my business. I had only $300-$400 in capital while collecting unemployment, so don’t assume I had a lot of money. Making financial decisions isn’t easy when you’re broke.
As for free healthcare, you don’t need to change the entire economic system. Advocate for better policies and vote for leaders who will work to make it happen.
Yes you’re describing how capitalism works. Maybe you feel that you took a big risk and it paid off.
The risk you took was the risk of losing your capital.
There are many people out there who would not even notice that same amount of capital missing from their accounts.
That’s the thing with systemic problems. It doesn’t mean everyone participating in the system is causing those problems, it means the system results in those outcomes. Systemic racism doesn’t mean everyone with authority is racist, systemic inequality under capitalism doesn’t mean every business owner has a private jet.
Maybe you think you’re “a good capitalist” just like maybe you think there are good cops. That doesn’t mean capitalism and policing aren’t systemically problematic.
We need to destroy the system and that means getting rid of people like you too, whether or not you think you’re justified in skimming wealth from your employees because you were poor once.
understand the value here. However, I prefer to keep control over my country’s decisions. If citizens are interested in having more influence, they should consider founding their own country. I believe maintaining direct control allows me to steer my country according to my vision and goals.
Democracy has been tried and failed, just recently France tried it again and reverted to Empire. If you don’t like where you are a subject, simply conquer some other territory. Let’s just reform monarchy.
Yes being a petite dictator is nice for you and nobody disputes that. Your ownership and profit comes at their expense.
The fact that there are so many legal loopholes to use to save from paying taxes, the fact they go this far to avoid taxes is disgusting.
Fun fact, most laws are written by the corporations to which they apply. There’s no possible way for politicians to actually write all of the laws, so they rely on their corporate
paymasterslobbyists to go ahead and write them, then have their staff skim through it all, and then sign off on it before it goes off to the chamber for a vote.When you’re a billion dollar company, It’s cheaper to bribe politicians than it is to pay taxes.
There’s a supreme Court judge right now who was giving companies favorable laws for like a pack of twizzlers.
How would that help! Coke sells cola, not Twizzlers! /s
it is just an inevitable consequence of money and lobby based politics. Whoever contributed to turn US elections into something like a pro wrestling match event is to blame
I wish they’d pay the taxes in the country the drinks were bought. Even if the US manages to scrape back some, that’s only one country seeing the taxes owed.
Always preferred Pepsi anyway.
looks at Pepsi’s record
Ah shit
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You know, maybe all those hippies that have been home brewing their sodas lately have the right idea
You should try my craft fizzes. I’ve made a custom… ok I’ve already made myself want to jump off a bridge.
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Water is not problematic (except for at least four fifths of bottled water)
I thought child slaves are good because more profit? /s
So, now that the US has 16 billion more dollars than they planned for, surely they can cancel all student loan debt and build affordable housing, right? They won’t just throw it at military contractors and directly redistribute it back to the wealthy, right???
So you’re kinda right and kinda not.
Roughly what actually happens in cases of massive back-taxes likes this is that the movement of funds is tracked back through to the municipalities where they initially failed to pay. From there the actual unpaid amounts are calculated for each level, then priority weighting is assigned (if the total sum was reduced to less than the delinquent payment), then the repayment schedule is calculated for each municipality, and finally the IRS takes the cost of remediation investigation from the top (probably about 1.5 mil for this one) and begins repayment.
That ‘repayment schedule’ means that the funds not immediately disbursed can be loaned out (most often to other government agencies) (there’s a term for the specific kind of loan this is, it’s very short term but I am totally blanking on the name). Funds are usually given out at the next funding cycle unless there’s a claim made for immediate funding, and from there it’s just folded into the budget and assigned however that municipality / organization handles budget allocation.
TL;DR: Biden admin can’t have the funds directly except in emergencies, that would be constitutional overstep. It just goes back to the government at the next budget assignment. Which you can draw your own conclusions about where Congress will put that additional money.
don’t be silly
it’ll get appealed and fought over and over until it’s down to 600 million
they’ll pay back 300 and we wont hear anything else about it for years until someone mentions Clarence Thomas getting a new 300 million dollar golden calf statue around the same time
Your crazy if you think Clarence is getting $300M. Studies have shown lobbying works for shocking little sums of money. Couple of first class tickets to a resort and a month there, easily under $30K.
my sentiment remains, even if the specifics are inaccurate
If a government or a corporation has 16 billion dollars, is completely inconsequential to me. I don’t see anything of either
That is a valid take. It also a sign that the current system isn’t working.
The people should be in control of the government and the government should spend money on its people.
Unfortunately, that isn’t the case right now. We need to work together to fix this.
Jup. Governments are way too large for their own good, gets involved in way too many private matters and is insanely expensive. We need to drastically downsize the entire thing and have it focussed on their core job again.
I would disagree, I think governments could stand to get bigger. Tax the wealthy more to close the income gap and get single payer healthcare, so our healthcare isn’t tied to our jobs.
Did you drive anywhere on a road today? If so you’ve already been given more from public spending than you will ever get from Coca Cola.
Government money does a lot of really important things. If you want those things to better reflect your priorities then you need to get more involved in the process (especially at the municipal level, where you will see the most direct impact from government spending).
No doubt that it does. However, pretending like the world would be a perfect place if those darn corporations would just pay all their taxes is foolish.
No one did. You just invented that in your head so you could get mad about it.
Making giant corporations pay their taxes is one tiny piece of a very large puzzle. But you need every piece to finish a puzzle.
Said the defeatist
You are part of why Elon Musk et al can exist.
You do not know your enemy when you see or hear them.
Elon Musk is not my enemy. The fact that billionaires got a massive pile of money doesn’ylt affect me in the slightest.
You know what does affect me? Corrupt government officials that embezzle public funds, spend it on stupid projects that only enrich their friends and families. That affects me.
You really think that giving the government access to even more money will help you? Hell no. It’s going to end up in the same hands as now, just more of it.
Taxes are a borderline infinite money source, and if you don’t have to worry about s source drying up you start wasting it, which is exactly what’s happening in many countries now.
If you want to boycott a brand don’t spam their brand name on top of the frontpage
What if you want other people to boycott the brand as well?
Do it smartly and don’t give them free ads
Enlighten me: how do you call for a boycott of a company without mentioning that company’s name?
Everyone knows who the popular red junk food soda corporation is. The thread title doesn’t mention boycotting, as it is it’s an ad.
Can you give us an example of an appropriate alternate headline for this post?
MEActNOW at mastodon says it’s time for popular junk food soda corporation to pay up
LOL suck it you parasitic corporate fucks.
Coca Cola also sponsors this event:
Meta and Koch Industries to Sponsor Event Featuring Climate Denier Barry Cooper
And how many arrests?
You’re not going to believe this, but it turns out that no one knew this was happening - they’re all completely innocent! As long as they promise not to do anything immoral ever again, they’re fine. /s
Coca-Cola is an evil company, so I’m not surprised. All they had to do was make cola, and be cool. Instead they operated like a criminal cartel, murdered labor activists in third world countries, exploited workers, bribed politicians, and evaded taxes. They should crumble under the weight of their crimes. If the government bails them out then we should all protest heavily.
I think it would be fair to destroy product you see in stores. something to weaken plastic on the outside of bottles, or shaking them. things that make product unsellable, or make it make a mess.
these companies are beyond evil, clearly simple “im not buying this” doesn’t work; retailers must be punished for stocking this shit.
If it’s on retail shelves, Coke already has their money. You have to aim higher.
Some retail stores now operate on a model where they essentially rent shelf space to wholesalers, who are responsible for stocking the shelves and keep all the money from sales of their product.
they have their money once. will they have it again? and again? and after this KEEPS happening?
You gotta corrupt the supply chain then. Shaking bottles in a store isn’t gonna do shit.
see, reducing demand at a retailer level is a lot easier to democratize and give kids to do so they feel empowered. plus it makes them think about OTHER products that are associated with awful shit. maybe, someday, I could even go grocery shopping without having to google every single god damn thing I put in my cart!
Your motivation is honorable, but this plan would only impact innocent retail employees and would not hurt Coca-Cola at all. I like your initiative, though.
their hours will be spent cleaning rather than doing the shit they originally needed to do. stores will need to hire more workers (and maybe security. but still) to keep the same standard. is wiping up cola really worse than collecting carts at 40c+?
Just an fyi…the coke product is just one of several hundred brands Coca-Cola owns. Sure your plan could work, but to be more effective, one should target more of their brands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Coca-Cola_brands?wprov=sfla1
Huh, that probably explains why Minute Maid juices have so much added sugar.
Why would making a mess at a random 7-11 hurt Coca Cola in any way? What is the logic here?
it would become a liability to stock that shit.
And small corner stores lose money?
If you want to do something, go slash the tires of Coca Cola execs. Or put some sugar in the tank of their private jet
So they jack up thr prices of their products
How much can they jack up their prices? It’s already like $10 USD for a 12pk of soda.
In the machine where i work they are $5 for one 12oz can
The middle man is taking you for a ride there. Soda is not that expensive.
Where you work is the problem lol, not coke in this instance. A can is like 50 cents
Are you, by chance, a Sherpa stationed half way up Mt Everest?
I love the response, “But this could mean we’d have to pay more!”
… and?
I am sure they totally haven’t made any money off the taxes they didn’t pay. I’d love to steal a million dollars and only get fined a million dollars 10 years later!
The IRS charges interest and penalties.
They’ll pay up… Pay up to the wealth defense industry.
