Jill Stein is a Russian asset. Trump is a Russian asset. Carlson Tucker is a Russian asset. Every commenter on Lemmy who isn’t voting for Biden is a Russian asset.
Everyone with an opinion on politics is a Russian asset, except the valiant Democrats.
If the best rebuttal that Democrats have to any argument is “that’s what a Russian troll would say!”, then they deserve to lose.
Also, don’t you realize that you’re making Russia look good? If the only options are supporting genocide or being a Russian asset, I’d choose being a Russian asset.
If the only options are supporting genocide or being a Russian asset
So about those Ukrainians. Or is genocide, like imperialism, only bad when America does it?
I dunno man. It’s definitely getting repetitive, but when we know that there is a substantial Russian disinfo machine out there and support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine is such a consistent theme in these people AND Putin is one of the major beneficiaries of the general turn towards right-wing authoritarianism (because when our politicians say and do the same things it legitimizes those antidemocratic elements of his own regime), it’s not an unfair connection to keep drawing.
The most compelling argument to not call them Russian troll farmers would be for them to simply stop saying all the things a Russian troll farmer would say.
when we know that there is a substantial Russian disinfo machine out there
But… is there? I mean, I know Russian disinformation exists, but could you really say it’s “substantial”? It seems to me that Russian disinformation couldn’t be even 1% as damaging as the disinformation put out by Fox News or Donald Trump.
Why is there all this concern about foreign disinformation when the most damaging disinformation is coming from within America? (And remember, Donald Trump’s political ascent was built on “Obama is a secret Muslim born in Kenya”.)
It seems to me that the main reason we hear so much about foreign disinformation is because it’s a boogeyman to stop you from questioning your country’s narratives.
“Remember: Anyone who questions America’s narratives is a foreign agent! If you ever start to think maybe your country’s narratives are wrong, you’re being duped by foreign agents.”
Also, the influence of Russian trolls on Lemmy is definitely overstated. As far as I can see, anything that doesn’t sound like it came from the mouth of a Democrat gets downvoted into oblivion.
People aren’t attributing all opposition to trolls, only the stuff that very clearly aligns with Russian/CCP/Israeli narrative building.
Jimmydoreisalefty is clearly a propaganda account. The amount of posts they aggregate daily is itself sign that this isn’t just some guy. There was no eamp up with that account either, it literally appeared on lemmy and started blasting 20-30 posts aday.
The account’s also hours of activity as suss as well.
only the stuff that very clearly aligns with Russian/CCP/Israeli narrative building.
But to them, that’s almost everything. They think every opinion that doesn’t align with the Democrat official party line is harmful to Biden’s reelection, and therefore beneficial to Russia or the CCP.
If you thought last week that Biden should be replaced, you got called a shill. If you think today that Biden shouldn’t be replaced, you’re called a shill. If you supported Kamala for president last week, you got called a shill. If you don’t support Kamala for president today, you’re called a shill.
If you support voting third-party, shill. If you say genocide is bad, shill.
I’ve been accused in this very thread of spreading pro-Russian propaganda because I corrected someone (in a different thread) on the year that Russia invaded Donbas.
It’s unhinged. Do they really think everyone with a different opinion is part of an orchestrated plot? Are they so deep in their echo chambers that they can’t conceive of someone having a different opinion? Are they unable to respond to different opinions without accusations of trechery?
I figured I’d give you the benefit of the doubt, and scrolled through your account history.
Instead of simply exhaling sharply through my nose, thinking there’s no way Russian bots actually give a shit about Lemmy, now I’m actually convinced that you’re a Russian troll.
You’ve posted about 100 comments a day since joining about a month ago. The longest gap between comments I can find is 6 hours. So at the very least, you’re a troll and terminally online.
In a number of these comments, you go way out of your way to tow the Russian propaganda line. Derailing your own points just to clarify that you didn’t say the thing that coincidentally Russia doesn’t want people to say.
Simping for Putin doesn’t quite explain why you’d care if someone said crimea was invaded or annexed. But being paid to spread propaganda sure fits the bill.
Buddy, saying you’re being paid is generous, that’s the best case scenario for you. If you’re not being paid then you’re just catastrophically stupid, and missing out on some really easy money.
Is anyone else tired of this?
Jill Stein is a Russian asset. Trump is a Russian asset. Carlson Tucker is a Russian asset. Every commenter on Lemmy who isn’t voting for Biden is a Russian asset.
Everyone with an opinion on politics is a Russian asset, except the valiant Democrats.
Are Russians the new Jews or something?
Found the russian troll farm
There we go. Like clockwork.
One can be an asset to a hostile power without that person realising it. There is a term for it and it’s called being a USEFUL IDIOT
Be tired of it all you want, it doesn’t change that there are literally Russian troll farms at work every day.
But attributing all opposition to troll farms?
If the best rebuttal that Democrats have to any argument is “that’s what a Russian troll would say!”, then they deserve to lose.
Also, don’t you realize that you’re making Russia look good? If the only options are supporting genocide or being a Russian asset, I’d choose being a Russian asset.
So about those Ukrainians. Or is genocide, like imperialism, only bad when America does it?
I dunno man. It’s definitely getting repetitive, but when we know that there is a substantial Russian disinfo machine out there and support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine is such a consistent theme in these people AND Putin is one of the major beneficiaries of the general turn towards right-wing authoritarianism (because when our politicians say and do the same things it legitimizes those antidemocratic elements of his own regime), it’s not an unfair connection to keep drawing.
The most compelling argument to not call them Russian troll farmers would be for them to simply stop saying all the things a Russian troll farmer would say.
But… is there? I mean, I know Russian disinformation exists, but could you really say it’s “substantial”? It seems to me that Russian disinformation couldn’t be even 1% as damaging as the disinformation put out by Fox News or Donald Trump.
Why is there all this concern about foreign disinformation when the most damaging disinformation is coming from within America? (And remember, Donald Trump’s political ascent was built on “Obama is a secret Muslim born in Kenya”.)
It seems to me that the main reason we hear so much about foreign disinformation is because it’s a boogeyman to stop you from questioning your country’s narratives.
“Remember: Anyone who questions America’s narratives is a foreign agent! If you ever start to think maybe your country’s narratives are wrong, you’re being duped by foreign agents.”
Also, the influence of Russian trolls on Lemmy is definitely overstated. As far as I can see, anything that doesn’t sound like it came from the mouth of a Democrat gets downvoted into oblivion.
Downvote if you want, but “Anyone who doesn’t tow the party line must be a traitor to the country” is how you’re losing a generation of voters.
People aren’t attributing all opposition to trolls, only the stuff that very clearly aligns with Russian/CCP/Israeli narrative building.
Jimmydoreisalefty is clearly a propaganda account. The amount of posts they aggregate daily is itself sign that this isn’t just some guy. There was no eamp up with that account either, it literally appeared on lemmy and started blasting 20-30 posts aday.
The account’s also hours of activity as suss as well.
But to them, that’s almost everything. They think every opinion that doesn’t align with the Democrat official party line is harmful to Biden’s reelection, and therefore beneficial to Russia or the CCP.
If you thought last week that Biden should be replaced, you got called a shill. If you think today that Biden shouldn’t be replaced, you’re called a shill. If you supported Kamala for president last week, you got called a shill. If you don’t support Kamala for president today, you’re called a shill.
If you support voting third-party, shill. If you say genocide is bad, shill.
I’ve been accused in this very thread of spreading pro-Russian propaganda because I corrected someone (in a different thread) on the year that Russia invaded Donbas.
It’s unhinged. Do they really think everyone with a different opinion is part of an orchestrated plot? Are they so deep in their echo chambers that they can’t conceive of someone having a different opinion? Are they unable to respond to different opinions without accusations of trechery?
This does not bode well for democracy.
I figured I’d give you the benefit of the doubt, and scrolled through your account history.
Instead of simply exhaling sharply through my nose, thinking there’s no way Russian bots actually give a shit about Lemmy, now I’m actually convinced that you’re a Russian troll.
You’ve posted about 100 comments a day since joining about a month ago. The longest gap between comments I can find is 6 hours. So at the very least, you’re a troll and terminally online.
In a number of these comments, you go way out of your way to tow the Russian propaganda line. Derailing your own points just to clarify that you didn’t say the thing that coincidentally Russia doesn’t want people to say.
Simping for Putin doesn’t quite explain why you’d care if someone said crimea was invaded or annexed. But being paid to spread propaganda sure fits the bill.
Buddy, saying you’re being paid is generous, that’s the best case scenario for you. If you’re not being paid then you’re just catastrophically stupid, and missing out on some really easy money.
I’m insomniac and unemployed.
Please hook me up. I could use the income.
Imagine being unemployed and thinking the best use of your time is simping for Putin this hard.
How many other places do you go? There’s just not enough content on Lemmy to keep you this occupied. How many accounts do you have?
Just Lemmy, and just this account. I quit Reddit when I started using Lemmy.
I don’t know what you mean by “this occupied”. I don’t think I’m on here that much. I browse a a few times a day and reply when I get notifications.
Your lack of sleep is doing shit to ya.
This level of discourse is why America is collapsing.
(At this point, it’s probably for the best.)
And you’re terrible at math.
My dude. They have the receipts.
They have conspiracy theories.
The funding, the meetings with Putin, and the lockstep with Russian propaganda all paints a very clear picture.
(I don’t care about him enough to get his name right.)
Fairly sure there is a quite few people on Lemmy who can’t vote in the US elections because they are not Americans.
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LOL fuck the Kremlin and their assets that have attacked the US and US elections.
Yeah, the thing that’s destroying America is some memes on facebook. That’s definitely the source of all the problems.
IDK about Jill Stein but Donald and Tucker are 100%. “Being against an authoritarian adversary state is literal Naziism,” ok buddy.
Amazing post history. Thank you for being the thing you are pretending we should all be sick of.
Putin can eat shit and die btw!
I’m sorry, are you calling me a Russian asset?
If you think my comment was complaining about Russian assets, you’ve misunderstood my comment.
I don’t think Stein or Trump are Russian assets, and I don’t think Russian assets have a significant presence on Lemmy (if they are even here at all).